Trump Defends Foreign Worker Visas 368
President-elect Donald Trump has defended the H-1B visa program for skilled foreign workers. "I've always liked the visas. I have many H-1B visas on my properties... It's a great program," Trump told The New York Post.
His comments follow recent support for the program from Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy. The H-1B program allows 85,000 skilled workers to immigrate annually, including 20,000 spots for those with U.S. advanced degrees. Trump's businesses have received approval to hire over 2,100 foreign workers since 2008, with about 70 positions through H-1B visas, mostly over a decade ago.
His comments follow recent support for the program from Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy. The H-1B program allows 85,000 skilled workers to immigrate annually, including 20,000 spots for those with U.S. advanced degrees. Trump's businesses have received approval to hire over 2,100 foreign workers since 2008, with about 70 positions through H-1B visas, mostly over a decade ago.
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we the people get the governments we deserve, therefore we irresponsible, selfish, and unethical people get irresponsible, selfish and unethical governments
greed will be our undoing, this is the inevitable result of classism and corruption
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Absolutely true. We choose those who reflect us. The politicians are the reflection of the voters.
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But y'all are saying that almost like it's some sort of accident. The essential paradox that is destroying (or that destroyed?) America is that the winners of the lotteries learned how to use a bit of their winnings to bribe the cheapest politicians to rig the games in their favor. Too many voters have been trained too poorly as far as reason and reality are concerned.
Perhaps the most significant front was the attack on reason itself? At least that's how I interpret what happened to public education in America starting a long time ago, but most strongly escalated in the '80s by one super-hypocrite named William Bennett. (Apparently still alive, and last I heard he was still singing in praise of the orange puppet.)
We can't get there from here? No, we really didn't want to go there and now it's too late to avoid the impact.
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There are entire systems designed to prevent millions and millions of people from voting. None of these yahoos would be in power without those systems.
America focuses too much on individuals and individual actions. I guess it's easier to get a grasp on than the systems that control our lives. Also it's really unpleasant to think about those systems.
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Stupid? Nah, the Florida Orange Man isn't stupid. He is a sociopathic asshole narcissist convicted felon con man whose actions and speech was constantly sane-washed by right wing media. Couple that with the constant drumbeat of how horrible the Democrats are from that same RW media and you have a recipe for millions of low-information voters consistently voting against their own interests.
Never mind the fact that 2/3rds of the electorate treat politics as a team sport (voting for whoever has an R or a D a
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There's two things that Democrats really should have done, which they did not and probably fucked them:
1. Ignoring "right-wing media" completely, hoping that the complicit corporate "mainstream" New York Times, Washington Post, etc. would bail them out. NYT and WaPo did just as much sanewashing of Trump as anyone else, because their corporate overlords demanded it, and got it. These are the same corporate overlords now paying tribute to Trump via bullshit lawsuit settlements and "inaugural committee dona
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Of COURSE it's the fault of the people that actually voted for trump
The people who stayed home pretending that we don't have a first past the post voting system share the blame.
The people who don't revolt against our oligarchic system of government share the blame for allowing this situation to persist, it allowed him to become president.
The people who buy products from the corporations who buy our political figures share the blame, they funded this.
The people who voted for Trump deserve the most blame per capita, but there's ample blame to go around. Government doesn't work when The People take their hands off of the controls.
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You don't think that slapping a 60% tariff on everything from China and a 20% or higher tariff on everything from other countries would destroy the economy? You are more worried about Biden who is on his way out than about someone who complains about a weaponized DOJ but then says clearly that he will use the DOJ to go after his political opponents.
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You don't think that slapping a 60% tariff on everything from China and a 20% or higher tariff on everything from other countries would destroy the economy?
Or hurt him/them politically. Many articles have noted that historically 70-80% of all (presumably non-perishable) goods at Walmart come from China -- now down to 60% with more increasingly from India. A lot of Trump supporters shop at Walmart ... (no shade, I do too)
FACT SHEET: Walmart’s Made in America Pledge [americanma...turing.org] (and other sources):
In America, estimates say that Chinese suppliers make up 70-80 percent of Walmart’s merchandise, leaving less than 20 percent for American-made products.
Focus: Walmart shifts to India, cuts China imports [reuters.com]
The data shows that only 60% of its shipments came from China during the same period, down from 80% in 2018. To be sure, China is still Walmart's biggest country for importing goods.
Google: walmart percent (imported|china) [google.com]
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If anything, Biden/Kamala supporters are just as much to blame because they never gave independent voters a viable alternative to Trump by calling out the lies regarding Biden's abilities earlier on and then not demanding a real candidate instead of Kamala, who had already been soundly rejected by the Democrat voters 4 years ago.
Looking into the election and how what should have been a slam dunk for the Democrats turned into a curb stomping where they managed to lose the White House, the House of Representatives, and the Senate, leaving them with only one weapon - the filibuster, there were a number of reasons that don't even relate to Biden.
One of the biggies was that the Democrats became tied to identity politics. A rather small group of people who denied biology, who made determinations of value based on race and genitalia, and were intent on destroying anyone that dared to disagree, and wanted those who did silenced.
The problem is when you take the knee to obey the kooks of outrage, the kooks merely move the goalposts.
Another is the issue of people who are being left behind.
Democrats at one time stood for the little guy. The person that works with their hands to produce something. No longer. I mean they want their votes, but outside of that, they are happy to represent the corporate interests.
Gynocentric campaign. There was no question that Harris's campaign was run exclusively for women. And when they tried to include men, they came up with epic levels of cringe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
They sort of grasped the problem with another ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] Where they are trying to convince "White dudes" to vote for the party that calls white dudes "the problem" .
Other issues were the border problems, and playing into it was the idea that Americans have stopped reproducing, which many support, not a good survival strategy.
I'm not certain how much the choosing of Harris without regular process played into it.
In the final analysis, the expectation was that all women would vote for Harris, and that all Hispanic and black men would as well. All of those groups eroded away from the Democrats. But the campaign made it pretty clear who the campaign was for.
Even if your party hates so called "White men", they exist, and they vote. Sorry about that - perhaps you can try to pass an amendment to disenfranchise them? And before I'm set on like a wildebeest by crocodiles, I voted for Harris/Walz. I just analyze rather than bawl. Dems crossed a rubicon. If the Dems desire to continue on this path, double down on it.
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One of the biggies was that the Democrats became tied to identity politics. A rather small group of people who denied biology, who made determinations of value based on race and genitalia, and were intent on destroying anyone that dared to disagree, and wanted those who did silenced.
Actually it seems like you're the one tied to identity politics given that the Democrats ran a platform of many thought out policies and a decent platform description, with almost no identity politics and a general platform of liberty rather than having governments be in your business about who you are or want to be.
But somehow you translated that to identity politics, while the republican policy book (which was insanely short) devoted full pages to pictures of Trump. No identity there...
The biggest problem is most people ate up the Republican talking points, talking points which offered no solution, just handwaving that Dems = bad, and Trump = better without never mentioning why. We will Make America Great Again, Again, For Realsies This Time, No We Still Don't Know How. MAGAAFRTTNWSDKH - should get that printed on a hat.
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One of the biggies was that the Democrats became tied to identity politics. A rather small group of people who denied biology, who made determinations of value based on race and genitalia, and were intent on destroying anyone that dared to disagree, and wanted those who did silenced.
Actually it seems like you're the one tied to identity politics given that the Democrats ran a platform of many thought out policies and a decent platform description, with almost no identity politics and a general platform of liberty rather than having governments be in your business about who you are or want to be.
You forgot one thing. People did not believe them. Deal with it.
Take it up with these folks - even the left wing Atlantic who tried to diminish the Democrat's rule by the far left, admit as much. https://www.theatlantic.com/id... [theatlantic.com] Rep. Seth Moulton was pilloried by the democrats when he committed the mortal sin of saying: "I have two little girls, I don’t want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete, but as a Democrat I’m supposed to be afraid to say that,” Moulton told the Times. He doubled down on Friday, telling GBH’s “Morning Edition” that he thinks “requiring people” to use pronouns in email signatures is “kind of weird” and caters to “one very small minority group.”
He was greeted with demands to resign, a direct example of the cancel cultures demands for ideological unity and unquestioned obedience. 10 former staffers demanded that he change his mind and apologize to the transgender community. https://www.politico.com/newsl... [politico.com] Read it, then tell Moulton that the Democrats have no identity politics.
Next up: https://www.politico.com/news/... [politico.com] The point is, if you are a Democrat, you dare not say things like you don't want biological men playing on sports teams once specifically for women. Proven. As Rahm Emmanual notes: “Identity politics did not work electorally and it failed miserably strategically,”
Maine Gov. Janet Mills, added: “We’ve got to talk about pocketbook issues and get over the identity politics — that’s in the past, I think — and get rid of the buzzwords.”
You are quite welcome to have your opinion, but your version of facts is pissing on my leg, and demanding that it is raining.
Anyhow, believe as you wish, but your facts are sorely missing And on this matter, you are undeniably and completely wrong. This is not Republicans, this is not me. This is Democrats that took a moment to understand the curbstomping with their only tool now being the filibuster. They well and truly fucked up, to put it bluntly. We now have a Republican Supreme Court, a Republican President, a Republican House of Representatives, a Republican Seanate. And the Democrats have one tool only Filibuster. There are multiple reasons for the curbstomping, and the fear of offending the identity politics people is a pretty big one.P Do better. I know you enjoy disagreeing with me, but at least stick to facts. Because otherwise, it isn't a good look.
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Deal with it.
I don't need to deal with anything. I'm a foreigner with literally no skin in the game just laughing at America from the sidelines.
Pulling out a couple of quotes does not make something a policy. I notice you didn't link to the democrat's actually policy book, or anything related to policy debates, just a few random Politico quotes, and that's really my point isn't it. There's no identity politics at play here other than what ignorant people think it is, fed from the media rather than primary sources.
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"If anything, Biden/Kamala supporters are just as much to blame"
Oh go fuck yourself. So tired of the morally and intellectually bankrupt position that nobody can ever hold right-wing voters responsible for their own actions.
https://x.com/drvolts/status/1... [x.com]
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The vast majority of people who vote like I do are also profoundly stupid people, lol.
You need to clear the infection in your brain that is your politics.
Know something? You bet your ass they do. They know that brawndo's got what plants crave.
I didn't climb up to the top few percent of wage earners by being the average.
Do I have disdain for these people? When they're minding their own business- no. But when they're wielding policy that affects the entire country with t
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Left versus right is just divide and conquer while all our political parties are owned and controlled by upper class influences based on campaign contributions and political lobbying. It doesn't matter who we really vote for the government and our economic system are classist and corrupt anyways. Complicit and unethical people are easily lead and mislead.
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we the people get the governments we deserve...
Or more accurately; we the people get the government that the smallest majority voted for.
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LOL the entire conversation is about whether they should be legal. If course they're immigrants. We're living in an Idiocracy.
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Oh fuck me! For years this place has been populated by people making racist remarks about H1Bs and pretty much tarring them with exactly the same brush they're tarring illegal immigrants. So fuck off with the "H1Bs are like so totally different man", when you know goddamned well that American anti-immigrant sentiment extended to beneficiaries of this program as well.
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The H1-B visas were supposed to be for unique, highly skilled positions that were difficult to fill with the available US talent pool. What's really happening is that the big tech companies are using them to bring in cheap foreign labor that's willing to work for 30% less than the equivalent US employee.
IBM was notorious for this... posting jobs for "Senior" system administrators with 10+ years experience in the New York area and only offering $60,000 a year for the position. No sane person who lived in the New York area would apply for those jobs, but that was fine for IBM because they had dozens of H1-B applicants lined up and ready to apply once they "couldn't fill" those roles. Judging from the people we actually got, it seems like most of them fibbed about their 10 years of experience, too.
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That's not true. The 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, expanded (to protect more than just Europeans from WW2 threats) define a refugee as someone who:
owing to well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of [their] nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail [themself] of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of [their] former habitual residence, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it.
So there are three key factors: their fear must be well-founded, on the basis of one of the specified classes, and because their home country cannot or will not keep them safe. If those are all true, the treaty says they cannot be sent to a country where they would continue to face that risk.
Very few illegal migrants for that actual definition of a refugee, and even true refugees can be sent to a safe third country, especially if they already passed through that country.
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You are correct, but you are leaving out one factor. To apply for asylum you must be in the US. YOu must apply either inside the US or at a port of entry. People cannot apply for asylum without being inside the country. When people talk about "illegal immigrants" the majority of them are people awaiting trial on their asylum claim. They are totally allowed to be in the country while claiming asylum. They are following the law. The proper fix for this is not mass deportation of people, it is fixing the asylu
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Requiring an H-1B visa means the government applies an independent check that the person's employment is aligned with national policy. It's also a nonimmigrant visa. Those are two major differences between hiring an H-1B and an illegal immigrant.
Reasonable people can debate various shortcomings of the H-1B program and how easy it should be to immigrate, but it's dumb to pretend "H-1B workers" and "illegal immigrants" are substantially the same.
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Trump's staff work mostly on H2-B visas (Score:5, Informative)
It seems kinda odd Trump can't get American locals to work for him, cheap. I'm surprised he hasn't convinced MAGA to pay him to work at his 'resort' properties. So he hires temporary immigrant workers every 'season' at Maga-Lardo [washingtonpost.com].
Mar-A-Lago Sought 380 Foreign Workers During Time Trump Had Access To Classified Documents [forbes.com]
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Quite the epiphany.
And no, this isn't about Trump, he creates nothing so has no need for H1B. It's a bone.
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Visa workers generally follow the rules and are easy to deport when the time comes. Why wouldn't you prefer them? The main issue are corporations abusing visa rules to undercut American wages.
Trump doesn't seem to use the H1B program all that much, though.
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So I guess Trump only dislikes foreigners when they aren't profitable for him.
He doesn't hire [cnn.com] Americans to work at his failing properties, only foreigners [forbes.com]. In fact, as the first article indicates, he does the bare minimum to allow Americans to apply for any open positions, then refuses to hire any that do apply.
It's almost as if he's replacing Americans with foreigners.
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So I guess Trump only dislikes foreigners when they aren't profitable for him.
Trump says what gets him elected. Do you really think he is against abortion? He used to be a democrat until it was more convenient to convert.
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The problem here is what you think of "great" vs what trump thinks. For trump, the ability to exploit people is "great".
"How will America be great if most people can't afford to live there?"
He doesn't mean great for most people, he means great for himself. Trump needs people to take from, otherwise not so great.
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We're not taking about what you thought, we're talking about what he actually said. And it looks like you cannot back up your imagination with facts.
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The original claim was that Donald Trump's "election platform was that immigrants are bad, and that's what his electorate voted for." I now understand clearly that you want to move the goalposts entirely.
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You forget the last decade? What Trump actually says is nearly irrelevant because he has said both sides of everything; sometimes he flip flops in the same day!
Biden would work hard to not stutter and mess up sentences but keep the same positions or rephrase corrections; but Trump would contradict himself on almost everything. You could find something on record on every side of everything more than probably anybody. The man TRIES to have it both ways and avoid taking positions part because he is a moron w
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"As far as I understood he always was illegal imigrants bad or did I miss something?"
He has always been "immigrants of color are bad". It's not about "illegal". He wants to end birthright citizenship, that's not even immigation. It's about racism, nothing else.
"...did I miss something?"
Integrity, that's what you're missing.
"Can you dig up any interview etc. where he says he is against imigration in general? I would be interested."
You wouldn't be interested. You're fooling no one.
As far as an example, ho
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He wants to end birthright citizenship, that's not even immigation. It's about racism, nothing else.
To be fair, it's really about colorism. Trump clearly doesn't have any racial loyalty. He just wants to either get rid of or enslave all of the brown people.
As far as an example, how about the Muslim ban that was one of the very first things Trump did in his first term. Fighting legal immigration was his highest priority, you moron.
But was that primarily anti-immigration, or anti-muslim? Is he really against immigration, or just specific immigration? Because he hires immigrants to work for his businesses.
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Don't you think it's funny that we've never heard anything about folks of European descent "taking our jobs" and "invading"? Nope, it's always brown people (southern border, muslim ban) or "chynah" (Asians).
At this current point in history, that is true.
The last century, it was not.
He is a racist, but anti-immigrant sentiment exists whether or not racism is the current shaky foundation it's using to stay upright.
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That's what he said. But he always made a big point of blurring the line between legal and illegal immigration to get those votes also.
Promising to curb immigration is one thing, but doing it when your whole economy largely depends on (in at least two states: illegal) immigration is another.
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As far as I understood he always was illegal imigrants bad or did I miss something? Can you dig up any interview etc. where he says he is against imigration in general? I would be interested.
As far as I can tell, he never really differentiated between legal and illegal immigrants during the campaign, probably because it would confuse his message and result in MAGA on MAGA fighting we're seeing now. He did come out against some legal means, such as Temporary Protected Status and wanting to end birthright citizenship, despite the later being a Constitutionally protected right for anyone born in the US. His "We will build American, buy American and hire American” stance was, IMHO, a dog whistle to the base that he would end or significantly cutback all immigration without having to discuss policy nuances.
I'm not surprised he's for H1B and H2B workers (temporary foreign labors such as housekeepers, cooks) since he relies on them despite his "We will build American, buy American and hire American” stance during the campaign. Both programs need significant overhauls, IMHO, starting with limiting the number any one company can have on staff and the number they can apply for to only those needed to reach that cap. I'd also allow workers to change jobs after 6 months with the employer freely without having to pay anything to the employer for sponsorship or relocation.
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January 2018
""Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" Trump is reported as saying. He made the remarks in discussion with a small group of lawmakers about potential immigration legislation.
In return for allowing Dreamers to stay, Trump wants to eliminate a diversity visa lottery program that allows in 50,000 immigrants per year from countries with low levels of immigration to the United States "
DJT talks a lot, it's not difficult to find statements against and/or in favour of
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They were there legally and were supporting local manufacturing, filling many of the labor shortages. Now many of them fled to different parts of the country because it was no longer safe.
I know this because my wife's former employer was impacted by the sudden loss of around 50 assembly line associates. People who showed up to work every day and did their best. All there legally but afraid to return due to the threats.
All because some woman made up a story about her pet cat getting eaten... but it was just hiding in her basement the entire time.
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Trump didn't have an election platform, Trump is a troll. Changing a story is nothing for a troll; it's about inciting anger not being consistent.
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And his supporters are already translating Trumpese into English, and forgetting all the "Ind*ch*mp" posts they are their cohorts made. The only thing more guttural, repulsive and immoral than Donald Trump is a Donald Trump supporter.
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Pretty sure he never said legal immigrants are bad, considering he is married to one.
He has stated his intention of curtailing some legal immigration avenues. This means he does consider the current state of legal immigration at least in part problematic. Said that, it's still unclear what exactly he plans to do and as always actions speak louder than words.
The problem with foreign work visas is the same as with the imports of goods: international competitors can satisfy demand more cheaply than national competitors. This is one of the stated reasons why Trump wants to impose import tariffs
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The Democrat position that anyone who sneaks across the border should be welcomed and given unlimited taxpayer money is indeed very consistent,
Yes, it's consistently false. Democrats, do not want to give them unlimited taxpayer money, that is just a right wing fan fiction trope. I'm sure at some point some camera caught some idiot saying it, but it is not a "Democrat position", it's some idiot's position, not at all widespread or common.
I like fruit, I would like for it to be harvested in 2025.
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I really dislike Trump, his Policies, and his rhetoric.
But he has been very clear he doesn't like immigrants with low barrier for entry (because walking from South or Central America is a low barrier apparently). He's never been against immigrants, from the start he asked why we can't get more from countries he approves of (he used shittier language).
I suspect he's against large communities forming too, because different is scary or something.
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Not true. His platform was that illegal immigrants are bad. Undocumented persons entering the country to find work at wages that undercut the minimum legal wage are bad. Your entire post is one lie piled on top of the next. There are immigrants (legal, processed through a system put in place for this purpose) and illegal immigrants who came here without going through that system. H1B's are part of the first group and while they come with their own set of reasons to either like or dislike them they're not what Trump campaigned against. If you want to talk about how companies hire H1B's to do tasks that American workers can do but believe should be paid more for that's another conversation entirely. Illegal Immigrants and legal immigrants are two different groups of people.
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It's bad if immigrants are coming in and taking jobs that Americans want - which includes the well paying jobs that H-1B immigrants are taking. There is no shortage of Americans who want those jobs - there are tons of experienced software developers out of work.
Arguably most Americans don't want the low paid farmwork/etc jobs that illegal immigrants, or Trumps own H-2B workers are doing, but these are the ones he's gearing up to spend $86B to deport.
I think the issue here isn't about satisfying those who voted against Trump, who now can only watch the economic trainwreck unfold. The issue/amusement is the MAGA voters who supported Trump on basis of things like job-stealing immigrants and inflation, who can now also only watch as Trump screws them over and predictably serves the interests of billoinaires like himself and Musk instead.
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"One, it shows he's not anti-foreigner like many like to claim."
No it doesn't, it only shows quid pro quo. Trump has been consistently anti-immigrant, it's only different here because Leona gave him a quarter billion.
"Unskilled immigrants can be a drain on our resources"
Unskilled citizens can be a drain, too, but what's his solution for that? Eliminating public education? Destroying the social safety net? Tax cuts for the rich?
"Citizens should have first opportunity for needed jobs with dynamic immigrat
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America was built by immigration. I'm speculating a certain level of immigration may be good for all parties.
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Better food, more interesting culture, people to sell things too.
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What does any of that have to do with how it benefits me?
(That's the question I was trying to answer).
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He actually said we needed more white ones. It's the ones from "shithole countries" that he "really hated".
It's funny that any person concludes that Trump cares at all about immigration. It's nothing but code for racism.
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Go talk to his base then....
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Well, he stills needs the Trad-Maggots as his brownshirts to threaten all the enemies only he sees.
He's stuck, really. He's been selling off the government agency headships to the TechBro-Maggots and those in the Billionaires Club, all for juicy kickbacks to his "companies".
The TechBro-Maggots argue that they bought el Bunko fair and square and that got him elected. So he must listen to them. The Trad-Maggots argue it is their xenophobia that that got him elected. So he must listen to them.
When in doubt abo
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From: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/1... [nytimes.com] (but the facts can be acquired elsewhere):
Both the H-1B and H-2 programs are overseen by the Department of Labor, which imposes different rules for each. The skilled worker program currently has a cap of 65,000 per year, a number that technology companies have pushed to increase.
H-2B visas, which are for nonagricultural unskilled labor, are capped at 66,000, while H-2A visas, for agricultural workers, have no caps, but are limited to certain sectors of the industry.
From 2003 to 2017, Mr. Trump’s companies were approved for more than 1,000 H-2 visas for jobs like cooks, housekeepers and waiters at his properties, including Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Fla., and the Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, Fla., Labor Department data show. In each instance, the companies had to attest that there were no American citizens who could perform those jobs.
His companies continued to hire H-2 workers during his first presidential term, posting applications for visas for 78 housekeepers, cooks and food servers at Mar-a-Lago in mid-2018, for example.
Currently Mr. Trump’s winery in Charlottesville, Va., is seeking 31 foreign vineyard farmworkers under the H-2A program, offering them $15.81 per hour.
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One of the things I keep hearing is that everything would be fine if we would just let the H1B's job hop. But in practice they can already do that. They just have to find another sponsor. Also companies do not want to fire H1B's. Look at Twitter they fired every single American and
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I can only comment on the lack of opportunities for those straight out of school. While I worked in London, I tried to push for some super junior hires. But unfortunately, we couldn't dedicate the time for training or mentoring.
I figured we could train some university graduates who would love to land their first professional job.
Me, I had to apply for dozens of jobs before landing my first one out of university. After that, I had close to a 100% success rate when applying for a new job. So seems to me that
He doesn't care about this (Score:4, Insightful)
The immigration angle has run its course, it worked, and got him elected.
It was supposed to be over and done but Elon's dumb and talked.
It's a distraction that Trump yeah, yeah, whatever-ed about.
Trump's primary goal is locked-in access to the military.
Then he can be king of the world, for a day.
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Economic FACT (Score:3)
Workers don't take jobs away they increase the amount of goods and services. If workers take away jobs, we should be asking people not have kids, because that creates more workers. I'm saying if the industry sector has an unemployment rate of say 4% or below for 2 years, we should be importing workers for that. IT is already one of the highest paying professions. Do we really need IT workers to be paid the same as brain surgeons? Sure if you're an IT worker you'd want that .. BUT if we did that .. that would affect US output. Less IT and software products and/or slower updates.
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I'm saying if the industry sector has an unemployment rate of say 4% or below for 2 years, we should be importing workers for that.
If a sector has low employment we should import workers? Isn't that backwards? Anyway, how are you measuring unemployment for an industry sector? Are you counting by people who used to be in a profession but aren't, and if so, how are you counting them — by some kind of poll that most of them aren't even seeing? Are you counting by how many jobs are unfilled when about half of IT job listings are fake and used only to collect data?
We do not need to import more IT workers. We need for corporations to b
trump hired H-2B workers for cooks and servers at (Score:2)
trump hired H-2B workers for cooks and servers at his golf clubs
Many, Many Work-Visa Workers in the Valley (Score:2)
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Both. They are cheaper as it's cheaper to school. But also US does not have enough. There is an anti-science (anti-geek) cultural trend from elementary school up and also it's expensive to go through collage here, $30-50k/year in public universities (including living expenses in addition to tuition).
Make H-1B great again (Score:2)
I foresee president Musk and his assitant Trump doing many great things to MAGA.
So exciting to see racist white people use tech properly really.
Can't wait until they chip them and get AI to throw the ones they dislike away - err I mean collect efficiency stats and remove low produtivity workers!
Before you all go "Orange Man Bad" on this (Score:3)
Do try to remember that companies have been abusing the shit out of the H-1B system for decades.
The blame can literally be placed at both Team Democrat and Team Republicans feet as neither of them
have done absolutely anything to prevent the abuse of the system that is so rampant today.
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Re:WTF? (Score:5, Interesting)
"Instead of bolstering our own economy we prop up every foreign douche that wants to come in and take American jobs."
If they are better than local talent then that IS "bolstering our own economy". When you say "our", you mean racism. Go ahead and say it, blood and soil.
"Just try finding an American-born doctor or IT person who isn't crowding Americans out of jobs on the cheap."
Don't do business with companies that exploit foreign workers at the expense of Americans then. What's that? Not when it costs you?
And all my doctors are "American-born", not that it would matter to me at all. It's as if you make up facts to suit you. Can see why this is an AC.
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Don't do business with companies that exploit foreign workers at the expense of Americans then.
So don't buy a computer, or a car, or a house? Don't see a doctor?
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Musk is likely going to be edged out fairly quickly. He was a useful idiot, but there isn't enough room in the White House for both Trump's and Musk's egos. Musk is already becoming a convenient scapegoat, and once enough missteps have been attributed to him, he'll find himself standing out on Pennsylvania Avenue.
Re:Overton window (Score:4, Insightful)
It was never, ever going to work.
Trump can only lead his minions where they want to go, because he is not a genius leader. He is only a cult of personality.
Trump got here in large part by exploiting the "they terk er jerbs" mentality, those people were convinced by this that they were correct about how immigrant labor was destroying their country and way of life, they already opposed those immigrants and now they are even more sure about that.
They're not going to change their minds about it, because what they really want is for the foreign brown people to go away so they can get back to focusing on oppressing the native brown people, and getting the last pieces of land.
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I voted for Kang. Even though Kodos appealed to me on some issues I decided Kang was the better candidate overall.