China Slashes SO2 Emissions Two-Thirds in 15 Years (ourworldindata.org) 51
China's sulfur dioxide emissions have fallen by more than two-thirds over the past 15 years through strict coal plant regulations and desulfurization technology, according to Community Emissions Data System data. Emissions peaked in mid-2000s after steep rises in the 1980s-90s, with the reduction significantly improving air quality in major cities.
That's actual good news! (Score:2)
Re:That's actual good news! (Score:4, Interesting)
SO2 reductions are good for people who want healthy lungs but bad for global warming.
SO2 forms aerosols that reflect sunlight back into space and help cool the planet.
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Also good for people who don't want acid rain damaging lakes and rivers.
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Acid rain also damages forests.
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SO2 reductions are good for people who want healthy lungs but bad for global warming. SO2 forms aerosols that reflect sunlight back into space and help cool the planet.
Some.
But low-level SO2 emissions such as you get from coal power plants rain out of the atmosphere pretty quickly ("acid rain"). The people suggesting injecting sulfate aerosols into the atmosphere to reflect sunlight to reduce warming propose to put the aerosols in the stratosphere, where they don't quickly rain out.
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Indeed, good job China! Next, CO2! Got to start somewhere.
Next? As well as their own solar, wind and nuclear sectors growing, China is a hug exporter of cheap solar panels and batteries.
Everyone in China is all too well aware of how bad air pollution can be.
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Another substantial global contributor to SO2 emissions was "bunker oil" - the cheapest, least refined muck used for powering ships. A quiet, but concerted, international effort to stop port from supplying such oil (regardless of whether ships at those port's bunkering quays asked to buy that type of oil) has largely succeeded. They can always spend thousands of their own dollars to go to another port that does sell it - negating the price a
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Another substantial global contributor to SO2 emissions was "bunker oil"
Emitting sulfur at sea is harmless. The oceans contain a quadrillion tonnes of sulfur, so the addition from humans is infintesimal.
produce small piles of elemental sulphur instead, which they can sell to the chemical industry. If they want it. Otherwise, bury it.
Elemental sulfur can be used as fertilizer. It can be directly applied to alkaline soils to lower the pH and provide nutrients.
Elements and compounds are different (Score:2)
Another substantial global contributor to SO2 emissions was "bunker oil"
Emitting sulfur at sea is harmless.
Sulfur is not sulfur dioxide.
Carbon is harmless, but carbon monoxide is not.
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Good , but thats an easy win (Score:2, Informative)
The technology is at least 40 years old, europe did it in the 80s and 90s and the USA are a similar time.
Now they need to try and reduce their CO2 emissions, not simply reduce the annual increase as per now. However I do realise that requires a change in mindset from the west too as we outsource a lot of our heavy industry there and buy endless consumer crap that china makes.
Re:Good , but thats an easy win (Score:5, Interesting)
https://www.carbonbrief.org/an... [carbonbrief.org]
but then for all of us simply leveling off isn't close to enough.
It's like we've jumped out of an airplane, and now are now nearing terminal velocity. But we have yet to pop the parachute. Well get around to it any minute now...
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And if you are China pollution is taking bigger bites out of their environment and economy. So just burning more coal is a fools errand given the pollution problem with which they are currently dealing. In addition, pollution affects the youngins more than the oldins. So if you country is trying to increase the pop., then lay off the pollution.
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Of course to people like you it's the Chinese person and the coal that's' the problem. Not the more polluting American with his oil.
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We shouldn't believe those numbers. This is a watermelon. Greenwashing on the outside, Red China on the inside. China accounted for 95% of the world’s new coal power construction activity in 2023, according to the latest annual report from Global Energy Monitor (GEM). Source: https://www.carbonbrief.org/ch... [carbonbrief.org] From March 2023: China is building six times more new coal plants than other countries, report finds Source: https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02... [npr.org]
You are talking about a different thing. You are giving links about increasing number of coal plants, while the article we are discussing is about reducing sulfur dioxide emissions.
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No, the article is talking about a mathematical model that is predicting reduced sulfur dioxide emissions. These are not measured reductions. This is the end result of an equation....with who-knows-what inputs, from a Chinese government that is trying its best to give the impression of surpassing other nations.
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And you don't think that maybe some of those coal plants are using the desulferization and exhaust stack filters, while replacing old coal plants that don't?
You seem to think that every plant they are building is net new, when some or many might be replacements for aging infrastructure that would be more expensive to refit than replace.
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"These are modeled estimates from the Community Emissions Data System (CEDS)." What assumptions were included in this model?
How much influence did the CCP have in the model and its assumptions?
https://www.pnnl.gov/projects/... [pnnl.gov]
What about gunpowder (Score:2)
Gunpowder has 10% sulphur
I think China is the biggest manufacturer of fireworks.
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Fireworks? Seriously?
If you want to worry about emissions from gunpowder, then maybe we should be taking a look at Russia and Israel, who are currently the biggest users of gunpowder by far with their warmongering and genocide.
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When they have burnt the last piece of coal (Score:2)
China fakes sales to pump up numbers (Score:2)
https://www.reuters.com/articl... [reuters.com]
Lots of other sources with a basic Google search....ya know, as long as you're on the right side of the China Firewall.