

Pentagon Axes $5.1 Billion in IT and Consulting Contracts With Accenture, Deloitte 101
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered the termination of multiple IT and consulting contracts with firms including Accenture, Deloitte, and Booz Allen Hamilton, describing them as "wasteful spending."
A Department of Defense memo indicates the cuts target the Defense Health Agency's consulting services contract and the Air Force's agreement with Accenture to "re-sell third-party Enterprise Cloud IT Services," services the government can "already fulfill directly with existing procurement resources."
The terminations also include 11 other contracts supporting "non-essential" activities like DEI programs, climate initiatives, and COVID-19 response efforts. The cuts represent $5.1 billion in spending and will yield nearly $4 billion in savings, according to Hegseth. The funds will be redirected toward "critical priorities to Revive the Warrior Ethos, Rebuild the Military, and Reestablish Deterrence," with Hegseth noting the money would better serve "healthcare for our warfighters and their families, instead of $500 an hour business process consultant."
A Department of Defense memo indicates the cuts target the Defense Health Agency's consulting services contract and the Air Force's agreement with Accenture to "re-sell third-party Enterprise Cloud IT Services," services the government can "already fulfill directly with existing procurement resources."
The terminations also include 11 other contracts supporting "non-essential" activities like DEI programs, climate initiatives, and COVID-19 response efforts. The cuts represent $5.1 billion in spending and will yield nearly $4 billion in savings, according to Hegseth. The funds will be redirected toward "critical priorities to Revive the Warrior Ethos, Rebuild the Military, and Reestablish Deterrence," with Hegseth noting the money would better serve "healthcare for our warfighters and their families, instead of $500 an hour business process consultant."
Well.. (Score:5, Informative)
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Probably, they will be forced to offer pro-bono services like every other vendor who took on work for the Trump and wasn't paid.
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You are mistaking the difference between those that service (as in do what they are told) Trump personally, who won't get paid, and those who pay Trump to service (as in fuck) the American tax payer who will get paid handsomely (by those taxpayers, not by Trump). 2 billion in extra share earnings in a day is more than typical. Plenty of money in El Salvadorean prisons.
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First off they are just bad consulting companies
Their biggest problem was not paying enough bribes to the Orange Overlord. I'm sure this will be corrected in short order.
You are inadvertently suggesting two things here.
One, that Joe “Big Guy” Biden was getting plenty of bribes for that shit to continue under his watch.
Two, the multi-billionaire who is managing the Department of Government Efficiency in charge of seeking out and destroying Fraud, Waste, and Abuse, gives a fuck about bribes. As if they could afford to bribe Elon? Good luck with that delusion.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Xi3... [youtube.com]
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First off they are just bad consulting companies
Their biggest problem was not paying enough bribes to the Orange Overlord. I'm sure this will be corrected in short order.
You are inadvertently suggesting two things here.
One, that Joe “Big Guy” Biden was getting plenty of bribes for that shit to continue under his watch.
Two, the multi-billionaire who is managing the Department of Government Efficiency in charge of seeking out and destroying Fraud, Waste, and Abuse, gives a fuck about bribes. As if they could afford to bribe Elon? Good luck with that delusion.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Xi3... [youtube.com]
Nope, the former is your imagination. The problem is that they didn't bribe any US president, the difference is the previous one would have refused it and the current one requires bribes and openly solicits bribes.
As for the second... you're assuming President Musk had a hand in this at all. The article says this comes from Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth. All Musk wants is to punish anyone who is investigating or charging his companies... and to be loved (despite acting like a complete see you next Tuesd
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All of this is spot-on.
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Dude, Joe Biden and his family clearly took millions in bribes.
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means... and you might want to look up Trump's own bribery defense at his impeachment trial, try squaring that with your accusations.
https://www.vox.com/2019/9/25/... [vox.com]
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a... [wsj.com]
This is how serious Republicans take bribery. They get in the way of doing business.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/pre... [whitehouse.gov]
Still waiting for Giuliani's dirt on Bidens. Any day now. Coercing Zelensky to make something up and play ball didn't work. Mea
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We should convict them both in that case, right?
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First off they are just bad consulting companies
Their biggest problem was not paying enough bribes to the Orange Overlord. I'm sure this will be corrected in short order.
Not a deep response but not deserving the censor mods, so the quoting.
in actually related whataboutism (Score:2)
(...)bribes(...)
Who's taking bribes? Did you see Deloitte's scandal with Tingo mobile? They gave them a clean bill of health even though they were a fraud organization. Thankfully Hindenberg research did the work that used to be done by journalists. https://hindenburgresearch.com... [hindenburgresearch.com]
Tingo’s Auditor Is An Israeli Firm That’s Part Of The Deloitte Global Network
It Gave Tingo A Clean Audit Opinion For 2022 Despite What We View As Glaring, Obvious Anomalies That Even Basic Auditing Checks Would Have Spotted From A Mile Away
The issues in Tingo’s financials are glaring enough that we’d expect they could have been spotted by any semi-conscious finance undergrad with severe vision loss.
These issues were apparently not glaring enough for the company’s auditor, however.
In October 2022, Tingo’s auditor, Friedman LLP resigned. [Pg. 94] In Friedman’s place stepped Brightman Almagor Zohar & Co., a firm in the Deloitte global network. The Israeli-based audit office is an odd choice given that Tingo has no signs of substantive operations in Israel. In its 2022 audit, “Deloitte Israel” gave Tingo an unqualified audit opinion.
Good (Score:5, Interesting)
They should have been the first ones to go, though.
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Agreed.
Though, they will need to hire *someone* to do these tasks. Seems like that is forbidden under the current climate though.
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I work for a defense contractor. Shit we sell to the government is very heavily marked up. Why? Because of government requirements. Government mandates that we certify that widget X complies with requirements A thorough ZZ. We have to verify each requirement, back it up with paperwork and testing, and all of that takes people and labour to achieve.
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Though, they will need to hire *someone* to do these tasks.
Does Guiliani still have that IT consulting firm?
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Completely agree.
These contracts are not only wasteful, Accenture and others are some of the worst offenders of H1B abuse. It makes zero sense to pay for them to bring replacements for US citizens or lawful permanent residents.
Not to mention the security implications of having an organization with transitory foreign nationals to handle pentagon contracts.
This is two birds with a single stone.
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These contracts are not only wasteful, Accenture and others are some of the worst offenders of H1B abuse. It makes zero sense to pay for them to bring replacements for US citizens or lawful permanent residents. Not to mention the security implications of having an organization with transitory foreign nationals to handle pentagon contracts.
In general, DoD requires everyone on a contract to have a security clearance, and H1Bs are not eligible for one. It's one of the few segments in IT where you're not directly at constant risk of being replaced by an H1B. But now you can get DOGE'd.
Re:Good (Score:4, Insightful)
>It's one of the few segments in IT where you're not directly at constant risk of being replaced by an H1B.
Truth. One of the reasons why I keep gravitating back to defense work. Only since around 2004 or so; there's now this "government shutdown" nonsense, which is a bit of a vicious circle, because programs get fucked over, then you have to roll off the contract and find work on another. And sometimes, there isn't any. (happened to me at Lockheed), so some people have to cycle back into the private sector for a few years (which isn't a bad thing; because THAT is where you pick up new skills, to be honest). Then when some asshole "businessman" crashes the business and does layoffs (to replace you with H1B's), you're back on the street again, and you end up back in the "safe" sector: defense. Oh, and if your Clearance expires while you're in the private sector, then the contractor just pays the $10k (or whatever it is now) to re-do your investigation. This has happened to me twice now.
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I can't speak to these directly, so no comment as to whether this is good or bad, other than to say if these projects cease, what else is impacted?
However, I do work for a government contractor, and work on a government project. My project is designed to save money in the long run - but in the short term, it's all cost. It's also not 'obvious', in so much as it's not attached to any particularly recognisable programme or "thing". As such, it's the sort of thing that might get cut if my government is looking
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Think there's two things tied together causing some mixed feelings.
On the one hand, they are taking an axe to all sorts of endeavors that either have value we want or like you say, saves money over a long haul.
On the other hand, at least Deloitte is pretty damn useless in all my private sector encounters with them, so to see them lose business it just feels like a "nothing of value was lost" scenario. I haven't dealt with Accenture at all, but for whatever reason I've hit some Deloitte projects and I was al
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I haven't dealt with Accenture at all, but for whatever reason I've hit some Deloitte projects and I was always left wondering how they were retaining their contract.
Interesting, my reaction was exactly the opposite: I don't know about Deloitte, but getting rid of Accenture is surely a benefit.
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I'm glad you are 100% sure these things are not needed, because otherwise it would seem like a very effective way to weaken the US military.
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I came to the comment section to see whether Slashdotters hated Trump or consulting companies more and I think I've found my answer.
wow again (Score:1, Flamebait)
Not cut Elon musk is going to get the contracts.
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Not cut Elon musk is going to get the contracts.
And? Do you have proof that he would do it worse and/or more expensive? Here, let me give you a little hint.
NASA vs. SpaceX. Compare ingenuity, technology, and efficiency, and cost.
Thats what I fucking thought.
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SpaceX is not in competition with NASA, they do completely different things.
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It is, as are many others. To do what NASA has approved as space program. that's why talking about "NASA vs. SpaceX" doesn't make much sense.
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Re:Obeisance (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, I guess we know who didn't bend the knee, kiss the ring, flatter the ego, kiss the ass, nod enthusiastically, and say "how high?!" this week.
You. Fuckin'. People.
DoD does something that is undeniably good, something you would have cheered heartily at any other time, and now it's a conspiracy. Because Trump.
FFS. Get some help. Seriously.
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"something that is undeniably good, "
A stopped clock is correct twice a day; that doesn't mean it is an effective timepiece.
Re:Obeisance (Score:4, Insightful)
This action is as unsupportable as cutting Medicaid: no one can walk in, take a five minute look and say, "We don't need this." You, as a blatant partisan, see action and conclude it's both necessary and good without knowing the details or the consequences.
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Peak absurdity? (Score:2)
So, now we're to presume that a bunch of very expensive spending at companies known for over-charging the government to do stuff that's not really needed and getting those cushy arrangements by having armies of lobbyists MUST have been valid because some congress long ago whose members we cannot even remember approved that funding and got it onto autopilot.... because THAT presumption allows us to presume that the Trump people are toxic/incopmentent/corrupt?
Really?
None of us here knows ANY of the details of
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Well, I guess we know who didn't bend the knee, kiss the ring, flatter the ego, kiss the ass, nod enthusiastically, and say "how high?!" this week.
You. Fuckin'. People.
DoD does something that is undeniably good, something you would have cheered heartily at any other time, and now it's a conspiracy. Because Trump.
FFS. Get some help. Seriously.
Undeinably good?
Hahahahahahahahha, thats a good one...
Wait... you actually bevel that? And you're complaining about other people?
These contracts will be reinstated once the ring has been kissed and the appropriate "gratuities" have been paid... Happens all the time in developing countries when the government changes, contracts get cancelled until money changes hands. You. Fuckin'. People. voted for this.
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So you know what these projects were? And you can unequivocally state that our national security is improved by not executing them?
If these projects still need to be completed, how much money is going to be wasted going back to bid and throwing out the billable hours already billed?
What's to prevent the next contractor from coming in with a design they already offered for bid, and was rejected in favor of the provider that was just told to fuck off? Do you have any information about why these providers we
Re: Obeisance (Score:3)
Well, I guess we know who didn't bend the knee, kiss the ring, flatter the ego, kiss the ass, nod enthusiastically, and say "how high?!" this week.
You. Fuckin'. People.
DoD does something that is undeniably good, something you would have cheered heartily at any other time, and now it's a conspiracy. Because Trump.
FFS. Get some help. Seriously.
It's not about what the DoD did, it's about the CEO of BAH playing golf at Mar a Largo having a stunningly high chance of preventing this in the future, because Pete doesn't have any power, at all. There's nothing you or he can do about that, that's how Trump works, he makes deals, he is openly transactional and has a giant ego.
Anyone can Musk or Loomer their way into his decision making process, and you know it, because ... they did, and the formula is pretty simple.
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The word "undeniably" is doing a lot of heavy lifting, there. If past performance is any indication, the cost savings will be zero, because the money will be spent on a different contract whose kickbacks kick in the right direction.
When the DoD budget actually goes down, I'll believe waste was eliminated. Until then, all evidence points to another scam. And yes, because Trump. You know who he is, right? The lifelong scammer? That's why people don't trust him.
Amalrician budget management (Score:2)
Named after Arnaud Amalric, the military commander of a Crusade, who when asked how they would know which people were christian and should be saved and which were muslim and should be killed, said:
"Kill them all, let god decide"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caedite_eos._Novit_enim_Dominus_qui_sunt_eius.
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Ah, direct from the Elmo School of Stupid Management Policy. Good luck running a company.
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In this case you're killing your own army, so the analogy doesn't work.
You can say here the army you're killing had no value, but that's the opposite of your kill-them-all-without-evaluation concept.
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You can do it.
Remember lads, we hated then *last* week (Score:3, Insightful)
But this week we hate Hegseth more. So we love Booz Allen and think they've always done a bang-up job.
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Race to the Bottom. (Score:2)
But this week we hate Hegseth more. So we love Booz Allen and think they've always done a bang-up job.
Show me a stupid population that perpetually puts up Bad vs. Worse arguments when selecting leaders, and I’ll show you an ignorant population too stupid to realize that is nothing but a race to the bottom.
I would say Democrats should have tried harder, but that would assume they actually intended to win the last election instead of cashing out on it. Failure by design. For profit.
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But this week we hate Hegseth more. So we love Booz Allen and think they've always done a bang-up job.
It's like cheering when a big IBM mainframe contract is cancelled.
The CEO hired some 19 year old tech bros (69GorillaBallz69, waifu82765, timr, wanksterator) to rewrite 50 million lines of COBOL, 20TB of DB2, and an Indiana Jones warehouse full of tape backups in Rust, cocaine, and a nosql you never heard of. The first sprint goal is "www.ssa.gov" and their whiteboard has several rust/wasm options listed right now, but they'll settle on two of them by COB and shoot it out.
It's OK to hate both for very diffe
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Remember lads, we hated then *last* week. But this week we hate Hegseth more. So we love Booz Allen and think they've always done a bang-up job.
Bullshit. I'm allowed to think they are all grifters. What they refuse to put in defense contracts are harsh monetary penalties for not meeting deadlines that the companies themselves proposed. Honestly, the work should be "payable upon delivery" where you make the thing you said and then and only then you get paid for it. Don't finish it on time? You get paid less. Don't finish it? OK but you don't cent and are barred from getting new defense contracts.
About time... (Score:5, Insightful)
These firms have been feeding at the government trough for decades. I have zero problem with reigning in shoveling money down the toilet to fund perpetual engagements with these companies.
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better to just have the gov hire them directly as feds, and save money.
Re:About time... (Score:5, Informative)
Not just public sector, those companies impose absurd overhead to private sector too. A no-benefit hourly contractor with no paid leave will commonly only get a 33% pre-tax cut of their billing rate under one of these companies. Then those companies will gleefully turn around and tell the employees there's just no money in the budget for raises, even when they bump up the billing rate. However they immediately make the employees eat a rate cut if they happen.
The good news is that if there's a good worker stuck under one of these regimes, it's *easy* to poach them because they obviously have no idea about their market value.
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I worked on a government contract where my team was responsible for everything from gathering the requirements to installing the software and everything in between. One time we had a project wide meeting, and there were three times as many people there as the number on my team. And I had no idea what any of them did. Whatever it was, it had zero affect on the end product, but they were still paid for it.
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Yup. All commercial companies getting payouts from the government should have their contracts nulled out and be forced to justify why they are being paid each and every penny.
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"with Hegseth noting the money would better serve "healthcare for our warfighters and their families, instead of $500 an hour business process consultant.""
And yet they're cutting how many people who provide those services?
or is just the VA? So they can promise people they'll get medical for life if the serve our country, then renege in that promise?
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Yes, they are cutting VA staffing and services. First they plant to get rid of up to 80,000 staff within VA [apnews.com], and they're getting rid of a program which helps veterans not lose their homes [npr.org].
This is on top of the Russian asset calling veterans who get wounded or die suckers [nbcnews.com] and losers [thehill.com].
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And yet they're cutting how many people who provide those services?
Yes, they are cutting VA staffing and services. First they plant to get rid of up to 80,000 staff within VA [apnews.com], and they're getting rid of a program which helps veterans not lose their homes [npr.org].
Maybe you should read that NPR article to understand why they are ending that program. As for the AP article, it says they are trying to get back to the 400,000 employee level of 2019. That's a lot of employees and I would guess they have lots of contractors too. I don't know how they justified growing by 80,000 employees in 5 years to begin with.
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We were active in wars where a lot more people survived with serious wounds than in past. We have gotten very good at stabilizing people in the field and getting them to medical facilities. So we have a higher percentage of damaged people who need help. We had a rough period where there wasn't enough help for the initially wounded. But their health problems need maintenance for lifetimes, and those number only increase until we have a prolonged period of peace -- so long that people die of old age. The VA was understaffed, and hiring was necessary.
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I don't know how they justified growing by 80,000 employees in 5 years to begin with.
Maybe because the VA needs a lot more people to serve the veterans of this country, and finally got the green light from Congress to staff up to appropriate levels to deliver the services needed?
I mean, that's just my first guess without looking at any data. By the way, who was President in 2019 and 2020 when that growth apparently started happening?
Not that I have any love for either company (Score:1, Interesting)
And we literally have a president that did a cryptocurrency rug pulls. It's also stupidly obvious he and his buddies did the largest inside of trading
Tesla will become a military contractor (Score:3)
There was already that suspect $400 million contract for armored Cybertrucks that "disappeared".
But that was nothing. Given the sales of Tesla are falling out and the brand it like shiny poo, there will have to be a pivot.
Given Musk's current position, moving to become a military supplier makes the most sense. Big fat government tit. The biggest.
Musk wants to build 5,000 Optimus humanoid robots THIS YEAR. What are those going to be doing?
Hint: Musk himself called it a "legion"...
https://www.teslarati.c [teslarati.com]
On a similar note... (Score:2)
Destructive (Score:5, Insightful)
While I'm all for reducing military spending,.
given DOGE prior history, I'm going to bet that these cuts will be more destructive than anything and will actually cost more than the money saved.
Since DOGE cuts without any real analysis, instead cutting based on gut reactions and ideological goals more than actually wanting to ferret out waste.
Zero Chance (Score:2, Troll)
GOP already hates the VA, little chance they actually spend it on on the troops.
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On some levels I agree. I have worked with some really bad H-1B folks being run by these consulting companies. But I have also worked with some who were awesome. The H-1B process is incredibly exploitative, and resembles indentured servitude.
The right solution here is to make popping someone talented out of H-1B easy for an outsider who spots quality (because the consulting firms won't do it of course), so talented folks get stripped out of these companies and turned into real Americans, as opposed to li
Audit the Pentagon (Score:2)
Accenture and Deloitte, yet the Pentagon can't provide audited accounts. You would think the two of them could create an audit system. It's the way the Pentagon wants it to be.
Contractors (Score:2)
"If you are not part of the solution, there is aot of money to be made prolonging the problem"
This is good (Score:2)
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Nope. the problem is not just that they are ineffective. It's corrupt as incompetent as fuck. They fire all oversight and accounting. Accenture was a shitty accounting company but it is still accounting! The #1 problem at the pentagon is probably accounting; all they do is fudge numbers and hide info. Such as purposely wasting money which needs to be accounted for so a problem can be spotted.
Your situation isn't new; that is a classic tactic to get more funding. Even private corp departments do such thi
Funds will be "redirected" (Score:2)
Who knows what these "consulting" fees are actually for - basically just a jobs program I guess. And now the funds are being "redirected" to the most inane bullshit imaginable. So there's no money saved. There's no costs cut. The defense budget is completely immune to cuts.
"healthcare for our warfighters" (Score:2)
gore (Score:2)
Al Gore's ox is being gored.
Wait, something I agree with? (Score:4, Interesting)
Dumping Accenture (formerly Anderson Consulting), who consider their people disposable (ask me how I know)? And the company that my late ex's brother, a CPA, refers to as DeToilette?
warfarters! yeah! (Score:2)
"Revive the Warrior Ethos"
We need to invest in Warrior Ethos boner pills for all the warfighters!
Where did the "warfighters" thing come from? It's a stupid word.
Hegseth talks like the "ex-Navy Seal" at the bar who uses swat hands to act out colorful combat stories he heard from actual soldiers.
Pentagon Axes $5.1 Billion (Score:2)
I'm surprised they didn't axe for more.
What is DEI, really? (Score:1)
It's rather telling that he lumped a COVID-19 response under DEI. What part of a disease response involves diversity, equity, or inclusion specifically?
This incompetent clown is like all the others. They use a cumbersome label like "waste, fraud, and abuse" because what that really means is corruption. But if you say you're looking for corruption and you don't start at the top, it's more obvious that you're lying. If any of these contracts are actually wasteful (or for that matter if their costs are actuall
FINALLY (Score:1)