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US Tourism Suffers 8.2% Decline 209

International tourism to the United States faces an unprecedented 8.2% decline in 2025, with the World Travel and Tourism Council projecting a $12.5 billion loss in visitor spending -- the only decline among 184 economies analyzed. Canadian visitors, traditionally comprising 28% of international arrivals, have dropped by approximately 25% through July.

Seattle tour operators report 30-50% fewer Canadian customers with many explicitly citing recent tariff policies and political rhetoric as deterrents. The newly implemented $250 "visa integrity fee" for certain countries compounds existing concerns about immigration policies and National Guard deployments in major cities. Tourism Economics now projects full recovery to pre-pandemic levels won't occur until 2029, three years later than initially forecast.
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US Tourism Suffers 8.2% Decline

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  • by bloodhawk ( 813939 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @08:17PM (#65631318)
    hardly surprising, when your leader pisses off and insults your customer base then the customer base chooses to spend their hard earned elsewhere
    • by robot5x ( 1035276 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @08:40PM (#65631370)

      it's not even that - all things being equal, I'd still go to the US despite not agreeing with the political climate there. It's a big country with lots of amazing stuff to see.

      What I hear people really worrying about is the draconian powers that TSA/immigration seem to have acquired, and truly mindbending stories like this [rnz.co.nz] or this [usatoday.com].

      • by Richard_at_work ( 517087 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @09:21PM (#65631506)

        My wife refuses to go to the US while the current anti-women stance exists in healthcare provision over there - imagine being refused medical treatment because that treatment might affect an unborn child, despite the fact that shes not pregnant. The mere fact that she is of child bearing age is enough for some states medical professionals to refuse certain types of life saving treatments, simply because it may induce an abortion.

        So while we were planning on visiting next year for AdeptiCon and then do some touring, thats now completely off our radar.

      • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @01:12AM (#65631852)

        This, so much this. It's one thing to assume that if you're from an African country with a difficult to pronounce name that you'd be targeted but for many people the USA instantly went on the "no" list when it became clear they were detaining, imprisoning, and deporting ordinary normal white European folk / Australian and NZ folk who were there on holiday.

        The world is big, why take the risk with a country that demonstrably doesn't want to welcome you.

      • by felixrising ( 1135205 ) on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @02:00AM (#65631896)
        I'm Australian, married to a Colombian with three kids. We have two ways of traveling to Colombia, via Chile and via USA. There is zero chance I'd risk trying to go through the USA. Just the risk of no right to due process is enough to put me off.
      • by mjwx ( 966435 )

        it's not even that - all things being equal, I'd still go to the US despite not agreeing with the political climate there. It's a big country with lots of amazing stuff to see.

        What I hear people really worrying about is the draconian powers that TSA/immigration seem to have acquired, and truly mindbending stories like this [rnz.co.nz] or this [usatoday.com].

        If we're accepting anecdata, I'm refusing to go to the US because I'm not pretty and if I get El Salvador'd the media isn't going to give two shits about me.

        There's lots of stuff to see in the rest of the world and the US hasn't got that much that is unique to it. A lot of European tourists are now considering Canada over the US especially as the US stopped being a cheap destination years ago, so there's not much difference with Canada any more.

        Plus Canadians are nicer, they're what Americans would be

      • That applies to you, but not to a fair number of people. I married my Canadian girlfriend, and let me say that more than a few people in her family, or friends from school, are severely insulted (that's the polite way of talking about it) by the 51st state rhetoric. The tariffs were an even bigger problem, but then the insult of Canada not paying for defense... pure red hot anger.

        More than a few wanted Trudeau (later Carney) to flat out cut off the US from electricity and oil in response.
    • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @09:12PM (#65631478)
      I've seen half a dozen news stories of European tourists, white ones, being hijacked by ice. One of them spent two weeks in prison.

      Who in the fuck would take that risk? The fact it's only an 8% drop really shows how little attention people pay to what's going on in the world.
  • 17% turnaround (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 01, 2025 @08:21PM (#65631332)
    The 8.2% decline is only half the story, That decline comes on top of projections as recent as December 2024 that were estimating a 9% growth for 2025. The damage is massive
  • Why? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by IWannaBeAnAC ( 653701 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @08:22PM (#65631334)

    Only 8.2%? I'm shocked that any international tourists still travel there. Sure, there are places in the USA I'd like to see, but there are places in Iran and Afghanistan I'd like to see as well, and not likely I'll ever get there in person. And the USA is at around the same level of "want to visit" as those countries.

    • There is an inertia to these things - not as many people have planned vacations to Afghanistan as NY or whichever Disneyland.

      There is also a ton of business travel in the US, which necessarily translates in direct and indirect tourism spending. That takes an even longer time to migrate if the country is not peripheral to your industry.

      If tourism had still been slightly declining or flat since the pandemic this would be bad news. If you account for growth trends it is dire news.

    • Re:Why? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @08:56PM (#65631408)

      Only 8.2%?

      I'm shocked by that figure too. I'm Canadian, and a LOT of by countrymen refuse to go the US. Hell, we go out of our way to not buy US products.

      My wife thinks that the figure might be so low because business conferences and the like are probably counted as tourism, and are often booked a few years out and are difficult or impossible to re-locate. If she's right, I suspect US tourism is poised to fall through the floor during the next two years as events are cancelled and companies choose other countries for conferences.

      I'm shocked that any international tourists still travel there. Sure, there are places in the USA I'd like to see, but there are places in Iran and Afghanistan I'd like to see as well, and not likely I'll ever get there in person. And the USA is at around the same level of "want to visit" as those countries.

      My wife was also just telling me about the many posts she's seen on Facebook about Americans changing wedding plans and the like because friends and family from other countries are refusing to travel to the US. Canada's tourism is getting a boost as a result of that. And even if the current US administration is replaced by sane and sensible non-Fascists, I think it will take a minimum of five years, and possibly twice that long, for tourism to rebound from the mistrust of the States that the world now has.

      Hell, between the comments I've made online and the FAA starting to sound like a third-world dumpster fire, my wife and I won't even fly anywhere that takes us through US airspace, never mind actually landing there. I'm very sad that I'll probably never visit New Orleans again, and that I'll never see Boston, Portland Maine, or NYC again. And I would have liked to visit Austin at least once. And we can't go back to Cuba either - again, US airspace. Oh well - other tourist destinations await, and I'd be happy to go back to Sweden or Holland.

      • I was with you up until you said you wanted to visit Austin.

        But... Why??????

        • It's famous for music, and for being a very liberal city in an ultra-conservative state, so it sounds like an interesting place. OTOH, it IS in Texas, so I might have an allergic reaction from being that close to a culture that just feels so foreign and so wrong. Admittedly, that perception is based on second-hand reports and media portrayals - but they're awfully consistent.

          In Grade 6 I had a teacher who was also the principal of the school. He told a joke about a Texan on a tour in Britain who said of var

      • Holland is happy to have you. Stay away from Amsterdam if you've already seen it (just tour the canals, visit the 3 biggest musea and you're basically done).

        I recommend Utrecht, Rotterdam and The Hague if you haven't been there yet. Utrecht is a much nicer place than Amsterdam, Rotterdam if you like small Manhattan, and The Hague for the musea, peace Palace (ICJ) and the sea.

        • Thanks! I was only in Amsterdam twice, and very briefly. It was a stopover on the way to and from Ghana. I loved the canals, and I'd go back just to see the Rijksmusem again. But I'd love to visit other parts of the country as well. And get some fresh dubbel zoute licorice, of course...
    • If one applied a tiny bit of thought to the article the headline number 8.2%, is largely explained by the Canadians who previously formed 28% of visitors dropping by 25%, since I'm sure you remember that 28%*25%=7%.

    • If you really want to see the effects just wait until the next World Cup/Olympics and count the empty seats in the stadiums.
  • No, duh. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by johnnys ( 592333 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @08:29PM (#65631356)

    Why would anyone in their right mind visit the USA for tourist reasons?

    Canadians have been held in your gulags without due process, for no reason. Canadians!! Canada is your closest ally, and a notable contributor to your wealth and security. And you f*ck them over???

    If you're willing to f*ck over your closest ally and friend to appease an incontinent, delusional, malignant narcissist like Diaper Donny, then all you deserve is :

    F*CK YOU.

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by dskoll ( 99328 )

      Also Canadian. I've been to the US many times in the past, probably over two dozen times total. Not going again, even when [or if] the fascist GOP are no longer running the show.

      There are many, many nice places in the world to go and I don't need to risk some TSA or ICE agent deciding I'm a problem. USA is dead to me as far as visiting goes.

  • by ndsurvivor ( 891239 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @08:42PM (#65631376) Journal
    He will fire the person who collects the statistics. All will be good after that.
    • Or just launch off some other wacky distraction.

      Anybody up for invading Venezuela? Trump's prescience is just remarkable, I don't know how long I've been thinking to myself, you know what we really need, we need to invade Venezuela.

  • Good (Score:5, Insightful)

    by quonset ( 4839537 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @08:56PM (#65631406)

    When those small tour businesses run by Trump supporters which rely on touristss to stay in business start squealing they're going out of business because of lack of tourists, we can sit back and enjoy a drink. This is what they wanted, they can live with the consequences.

  • by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @09:01PM (#65631430)

    Why would I give my money to a state that is waging economic war against mine, with the explicit goal of conquering my country and making it more like theirs?

    I like my social safety net, universal healthcare system, and drastically lower gun crime thanks.

    • by TheMiddleRoad ( 1153113 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @09:09PM (#65631466)

      Commie!

    • by Targon ( 17348 )

      Those of us who are in the USA and haven't lost our minds agree with you and are against Trump and everything he has been doing. Even when Trump has a decent base concept, his lack of understanding about how EVERYTHING works is going to prevent anything good being done.

      For those Trump supporters who you KNOW would jump on my comment, here's a clear case where Trump obviously doesn't understand how to make anything actually work.:

      Case in point, bringing manufacturing back to the USA. It's not a bad goal,

  • Almost all the posters in this thread who will claim that this is a good thing, or that Trump doesn't have anything to do with it (i.e. the Trump supporters) will post anonymously.

    As they always do.

  • trump retweeted “NOTHING CAN STOP WHAT IS COMING” https://www.huffpost.com/entry... [huffpost.com]

    I see the 8.2 drop tripling

    • by Targon ( 17348 )

      Trump is a fascist, and honestly, is paving the way for the rest of the world to intervene and get rid of Trump. Trump supporters don't know enough about history to see how Trump gets so much inspiration from Adolf Hitler that they don't realize that what happened in Germany with World War II could and will happen to the USA where it will take an invasion to bring sanity back, but when that happens, everyone who supported Trump will get treated the way the Nazi Party was and is treated.

      Trump already threa

  • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @09:55PM (#65631586)

    US Tourism Suffers 8.2% Decline

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  • by OrangeTide ( 124937 ) on Monday September 01, 2025 @11:02PM (#65631694) Homepage Journal

    He really doesn't seem to understand how tourism works.

  • Two white German transgender women were refused entry, because according to the US border morons they were travelling with forged passports saying they were women and not men. Iâ(TM)m not waiting until they come for me, and a post calling Trump a f***ing moron is probably enough to get me arrested.

    Lots of cruises through the Caribbean start in Florida, I wonâ(TM)t be on any of them.
  • by gravewax ( 4772409 ) on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @12:10AM (#65631808)
    If anything the current drop doesn't reflect the real effect. We visited the US recently, we only did so as tickets, hotels and a cruise were all prebooked and cancelling would have lost us thousands in deposits and cancellation fees. had we known at the time of booking what was going to be happening we would have gone to Canada or Europe somewhere. As it was apart from the insanely slow and incompetent customs lines at the airport (even worse than usual) it was still a pretty good trip. Once all the prebooked trips peter out I think the decline will significantly increase.
  • by GeekWithAKnife ( 2717871 ) on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @04:13AM (#65632038)
    Do tourists not want to help Make America Great Again??
    I swear tourism is the greatest scam ever invented to rip Americans off.
    Tourists should pay *at least* 300% more on everything to visit the magnificent land of the United Swamps of America.
    Once tourists pay their fair share you, the simple and disinfranchised poverty line American will have a great life again. Promise.
  • by Petersko ( 564140 ) on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @09:31AM (#65632500)

    But my friends and I canceled out late May motorcycle trip through the northern states. It was originally slated to run about 10 days south of the borders. Instead we rerouted all over the Canadian Rockies and west coast. That's 10 hotel nights, 30 meals, fuel, and tourist entertainment expenses that no longer went to the states. Just for me. In this group there were four of us.

    Now we're in to September, and of the almost 19,000 km I've ridden, exactly none have been states side.

    That was NOT the plan. My hotel trips had cancellation insurance - they had been booked for a while. But I'm pretty happy with my summer, and expect this travel trend to continue for the next few years.

  • by kwelch007 ( 197081 ) on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @10:43AM (#65632638)

    In the USD/EUR exchange rate, the USD is up ~14% since January 1st 2025. That makes traveling to the U.S. relatively more expensive. I'm not saying there aren't other factors (political, etc.,) but as with most things, follow the money.

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