Mitnick to Plead Guilty 97
Roast Beef hooked us up
to a ZDNet article that proclaims that
Kevin Mitnick will
Plead Guilty to computer-related crimes. After four years
in prison waiting for a trial, he might be out by the end of the
year.
Mitnick is an embarassment. (Score:1)
I hope he rots in jail (Score:1)
The guy is a criminal and is where he belongs. I was on Netcom when he stole my credit card number along with the credit card number of half the internet.
And in case you forgot he also stole millions of dollars worth of software from Moterola!
Finally over? (Score:1)
There are people in jail right now, who ARE innocent, but nobody gives a damn.
People used him as a tolken, and tried to make the government bad by doing that. They went about it all wrong.
Lets face it. 2600 jumped to the opertunity to make him a marter, spreaded FUD about the case, and trying to make him some sort of marter. It worked, and kevin sold his ass out. Now for the rest of my life, im going to have to listen to skript kiddy aol hax0rs bitch about him. I don't want him to die or anything, but I hope the sentance is reasonable, long enough for him to get it up the ass a few times from bubba and cleetus. hehe, hope 2600 sends him soap on a rope!
If I saw kevin on the street, i'd give him a peice of my mind, and a kick in the balls.
Dammit, why isn't the trial started?!? (Score:1)
There's more up his sleeve than what is being reported.
ZDTV is reporting that the defense was held up by goverment prosecutors in gathering evidence, so the end blame is the Justice Department.
I would not be surprized if a lawsuit AGAINST the DOJ for causing such delays is filed.
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WIRED has the story too (Score:1)
http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/1
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The Trial (Score:1)
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It's NOT craker (sic) GODAMNIT!!!! (Score:1)
Murders and Rapists Get Better Treatment by Courts (Score:1)
The justice system is insane. They have this image of Mitnick as a super-hacker who can do anything he wants with electronic equipment. The prison officials even took a way a walkman from him because they were afraid he'd modify it to record conversations. How could he do so with a cassette player that had no recording head?
FREE KEVIN (Fire his dumb lawyers) (Score:1)
He would've been better off if he stole a bunch of money with the credit cards and fled the country. Instead he decided not to steal money from people, and he gets stuck in jail while his court-appointed lawyers muck around for 4 years.
All the facts you need at www.takedown.com (Score:1)
What a (libelous) movie that will be (Score:1)
Murders and Rapists Get Better Treatment by Courts (Score:1)
It just goes to show that your right fly right out the window when the court decides it wants to "make an example of you". Four years just waiting for the trial? That's pathetic and for what? Cracking systems and stealing (but never once using) some credit card numbers. Meanwhile many drug dealers, killers, and rapists are tried, jailed, and back on the streets in less time than Mitnick has just been waiting for a trial. Wheather or not Mitnick is guilty or not (and he probably is), does anyone else see anything wrong with the way the courts have treated him? Even if you despise Mitnick, you *must* despise the courts *more* for the way they have treated him.
If your going to include a quoteation... (Score:1)
...please get it right.
"Do not call up what you cannot put down, by that, meaning, do not call up one who can in turn call up others against whom your most powerful devices are of no avail".
Reputedly a quotation from Al Azif that appeared in the H.P.Lovecraft story "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward".
A cautionary Tale (Score:1)
But his rights as an accused criminal were either definately violated or walked the line too closely. IANAL, FWIW, so YMMV. :-)
how plead you? (Score:3)
Linus: It wasn't just me; a lot of other people helped.
Richard: Will I be allowed to redistribute a modified version of the court-record?
Larry: I sure am happy.
This court is offended by your sight. You are sentenced to copy The Fountainhead onto Big Chief Tablets with a crayon. Bailiff!
Four years in prison waiting for trial???? (Score:1)
"In April 1996, he pleaded guilty to possession of 15 or more unauthorized access devices (cloned cellular telephone numbers), and for violating supervised release, and was sentenced to 22-months in federal prison. "
So while he *was* awaiting trial in prison, he would have been there anyway because of his own guilty admission. Dumbass.
The Point... (Score:2)
Here is the point. I'm sure we all can argue like 5 year olds that Mitnick was a cracker not a hacker and he went against the "hacker code" (which applies to crackers now I guess). Anyway, the point is that it is FOUR years that he has been waiting for a trial! Doesn't that bother anyone else? I mean what if it turned out that he didn't do it in a trial that may be another year down the road (I know ZD says it would take place next month, but its ZD and they never get their facts right)? He could have served 5 years for nothing? I would honestly like to know what sort of progress has been made on this case each week by the people who have been putting off the trial.
Thats what its about my friends.
Yay! (Score:1)
I wonder if he actually has that robotic arm in the most recent rewrite.
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As long as each individual is facing the TV tube alone, formal freedom poses no threat to privilege.
Yes, we know. (Score:1)
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As long as each individual is facing the TV tube alone, formal freedom poses no threat to privilege.
ROTFL! (Score:1)
Especially the Larry bit.
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As long as each individual is facing the TV tube alone, formal freedom poses no threat to privilege.
True. (Score:1)
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As long as each individual is facing the TV tube alone, formal freedom poses no threat to privilege.
The justice system is f*cked up (Score:1)
Gee even on /. people use "hacker" incorrectly... (Score:1)
For crying out loud [U freakin anonymous idiot] (Score:1)
I've never seen a more hypocritical statement in my life. You're trying to sound all smart and all because you have a freakin dictionary open in front of you, and are telling people to look it up and all.. did you look this up your own ass ?
Gay..can mean two things.. but when someone is talking about Gay rights.. they aren't talking about the right to be happy and to be merry. They're talkin about rights of faggots(bundle of sticks) or homosexuals.
Before you go around waving your brand new reading skills and the ability to look a word up in a dictionary.. go read up on english, go read up on context.
One word can have an entirely different meaning depending on the context.. lately you hear people saying something or someone is phat.. when you hear it.. it sounds like fat.. are they calling your mother fat or phat ? how do you know ? it's the context in which they speak.
it's obvious the article and every comment about it is in reference to computers, not basketball/golf/ or furniture.
People like you, people without a clue, should be in jail for possession of stupidity.
I convict you of possession of stupidity with the intent to distribute.
Now go get buttraped.
right to a speedy trial? (Score:1)
I am pleased with my fellow Slashdotters (Score:1)
--Ivan, weenie NT4 user, Jon Katz hater: bite me!
Bull (Score:1)
--Ivan, weenie NT4 user, Jon Katz hater: bite me!
Cusshy Club-fed (Score:1)
Well, for starters, he gets not 3 but 4 square (read: nutritionally balanced and professionally prepared by (sometimes)Cord Au Bleu chefs) meals a day, color TV in his private cell. Outdoor activited which include golf, swimming, bikeing, and running. A full library, and access to college education materials.
Don't feel bad for him kids, hes living better than yor humble narrator, and probally better than most of you.
Murders and Rapists Get Better Treatment by Courts (Score:1)
>hackers that go around putting up "Free Kevin" on
>NY Times and IdSoftware web sites as well as
>others.
IMO, it's a valid form of protest, roughly
equivalent to a picket or a sit-in. And you can
understand why they'd pick the NYT as a target,
after the quality of their reporting of the case.
And quite frankly I'm surprised there haven't
been riots over this. Three-odd years without
trial in the self-proclaimed leader of the Free
World?
K.
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Out at the end of the year? (Score:1)
Eggs Actly - Quit polluting the word "cracker"! (Score:1)
I've never known anyone (except the ones who are downright anal about it, like you see in this thread, and even they accidently use "hacker" sometimes) use the word "cracker" to describe someone who illegally breaks into others' computers. Most computer people take the word cracker to mean someone cracking software (e.g., removing copy protection, figuring out registration key algorithms, etc.), not breaking into systems. I'll put forth that in their zeal to change the common definition of "hacker," these people are polluting the common definition of "cracker." Look, 95% of the time, you can tell whether it's a neutral hacker or a malicious hacker by the context of the words around it, so get over it already.
Or maybe I should just constantly bitch that people are giving Saltines and Ritz a bad name...
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Murders and Rapists Get Better Treatment by Courts (Score:1)
One other hand, he changed lawyers three times and his defense team filed many delays (Claiming the goverment with held evidence.
Kevin had to know he was screwed when he got caught. Prior convictions, and he got caught again. He should have been smart, like every claims he is, and pleaded guilty to the charges. I don't think he would have gotten 20 years, but it would have been less time that he has been sitting in LA county jail. Remember is he guilty of many of those charges!
What is also not helping him are the web page hackers that go around putting up "Free Kevin" on NY Times and IdSoftware web sites as well as others. I use to feel sorry for the guy, but not after his supports went to such lenghts, to prove what a bunch of children they are.
right to a speedy trial? (Score:1)
get a clue...latch on to him not because he is a great cracker, but because our great government is trying to show others what happens to people like him by holding him for 4 years without trial or bail hearing. it sounds more like the plot of a government power flick than real life...scary.
First a speedy trial... (Score:1)
He got what he asked for... (Score:1)
~PanIc~
Mitnick has just bene working for the NSA... (Score:1)
ROTFL! (Score:1)
Randians don't like Libertarians (big-L, and small-l). They consider them anarchists. Check out http://www.aynrand.com/objectivism/Q5.html
-jon (Not an objectivist, almost a libertarian)
For crying out loud [slightly OT] (Score:1)
Perhaps the only saving grace of the post was that the author actually had a point.
The justice system is not f**ked up (Score:1)
Finally over? (Score:1)
A cautionary Tale (Score:1)
Finally over? (Score:1)
Flee Kevin! (Score:1)
The reason he's still in jail is his own -- he waived the right to a speedy trail and fired his lawyers everytime his trial came up.
I'm all for the libertarian-style thinking, but in this case it is unjustified.
Its all in the marketing: 2600 did a great job pushing those bumper stickers....
Oh boy... (Score:1)
It's craker GODAMNIT!!!! (Score:1)
It's craker GODAMNIT!!!! (Score:1)
Four years in prison waiting for trial???? (Score:1)
The fact he's guilty of something else doesn't excuse holding him without a bail hearing and without a trial after that sentence expires.
Yo Slashdot kiddies! (Score:1)
We know that. Most of us object to it being used to describe malicious activities, though. See the following statements.
When you hack a system you break into it.
Not necessarily. Strictly speaking, a hack is any feat of technological prowess. Breaking into systems is a subset of the activities that can be lumped under the category "hack."
Man.. hacking was already used for breaking in when none of you could even afford computers, so cut the "cracker" bullshit!
I guess that I'm supposed to be quaking in the face of your obviously superior knowledge. What you may be referring to is one of the original (ca. late 1950s) uses of the word "hack"--describing lockpicking (e.g. "hacking a lock" or "lock hacking").
Times have changed a bit. There are people who break into systems simply to satisfy curiosity or because they like the challenge; those who do so and do no damage (or who point out holes in security to the sysadmins) are generally thought of as hackers.
People who break into systems for malicious purposes (a category that describes probably 99.44% of the "hackers" that J. Random Citizen has heard about) are usually referred to as "crackers" to distinguish them from people who break into systems for non-malicious reasons.
Re: (Score:1)
It's craker GODAMNIT!!!! (Score:1)
For the LOVE of GOD!!! I wish they'd get it fucking STRAIGHT!!!!
-- A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."
What a movie that will be (Score:1)
"Adding to his notoriety is an upcoming feature film of "Takedown," which is expected to open later this year. The film, which is being produced by a division of Disney's Miramax Films, will star Skeet Ulrich as Mitnick."
"Among the untruths: During the pursuit, Mitnick clubs Shimomura with a garbage can lid, gashing his head (they never met until after Mitnick's arrest); he obtains free phone calls by whistling into the phone a la legendary phone phreaker Captain Crunch; he rigs a radio call-in contest to win a TV, a stunt performed in real life by fellow hacker Kevin Poulsen; near the end of the movie he vows to escape during a jail conversation with Shimomura, saying, "I'll be seeing you. All I need is a dime and a phone. Sometimes, if I'm lucky, I don't even need the dime."
Mitnick is an embarassment. (Score:1)
MM-Hey!
Yes, But Who Really cares about Mitnick (Score:1)