Assorted Slashdot Changes 138
I've attached a summary of the major changes and bug
fixes below. These are regarding Nested Mode, Anonymous Posting,
Highlight Thresholds, and Login Problems. Also some
comments about moderation. If any of these
things are on your mind, read on.
- I enabled the time zone selection stuff (you probably noticed some craziness with the times this morning while I was ironing some kinks out). You can choose your time zone in the User Preferences (default:EDT).
- I think I've fixed nested mode- it was almost as borked as Anonymous Posting which also should be fixed now. (god the conspiracy theorists love it when I break code- the story refreshing daemon hiccuped last night, and I get accused of censoring and removing stories because the static page isn't updating. Broken code == Evil Rob. I know how it works. God I need a beer).
- I also added an interesting feature that I call the "Highlight Threshold". Basically, once a discussion has "Comment Spill" (Default:100) messages in it, it switches to indexed mode (it just displaying subject, byline, score and time). Comments the excede the Highlight Threshold (default:4) are displayed in full. This allows you to quickly spot and read high rated comments without bothering with extra clicks, or losing the flow of the discussion. I like this a lot. Much of the benefit of Order by Score but without the tradeoff of losing the original discussion order.
- I'm still working on the various login problems people are having. Usually its a firewall or a proxy server thats filtering cookies, but there is some stranger stuff too. I'll figure it out, but it'll take longer if people keep emailing to complain and/or suggest features that I'm planning on, but just haven't had time yet. Hang in there- I'm working as fast as I can over here.
- Moderation Guys have patience here. I've picked 400 people to test out a lot of stuff with in a fairly controlled way. In the next few weeks I'll start rolling out features that will allow more scoring at the hands of the masses. Stop flaming and let me debug what we have before I start implementing the rest. I'm working on a system that will have a limited pool of points that will be dispensed to participants in a fair way. Hopefully. I'm simply not going to rush it. We're learning a lot with 400 moderators. This is a great intermediate step.
- As a whole, I think the system is stabilizing again. There are still some posting problems and login problems that need fixing, but so far most of the feedback has been pretty positive. At least, the good mail outweighs the hatemail so I'm breakin' even. I appreciate the feedback- most of the suggestions that are coming in are things that I'm planning, or I've already decided not to do. I apologize for not replying to everyone, but I'm behind enough as is. Once the dust settles a bit from this round I'll go in for more.
Way to go! (Score:1)
AC
Moderation Problems (Score:2)
The problem is that it is real hard to do. All the posts that you don't agree with have "obvious problems with them", otherwise you would agree with them. So, you look for ones with "the fewest flaws", but you still aren't going to find many.
I am really not sure how to fix this problem. I am really worried that the moderators are going to be come a very self-selecting group. Opening up moderation to everyone doesn't fix this problem at all, you just have the tyranny of the majority.
Moderation Problems (Score:2)
* I have never down-scored a post and specifically plan not to. I agree with the preceeding poster that moderators should only increase scores, not decrease them.
* I try to up-score posts that make a good point that I agree with. Posts I don't agree with I generally leave alone; someone else can promote it if they think it's worthwhile. In a distributed scoring system, it is not necessary for every moderator to read and score every message. With 400+ moderators with 10 pts each, there are plenty of points to go around.
* I usually don't bother to read or score responses to comments, concentrating on head of the thread.
* I also tend to promote deserving posts that are low scoring. Anything already rated 3 or better I probably won't touch unless it's really fantastic. Fours should be rare, and fives nearly unheard of.
Testing (Score:2)
Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda
Pants are Optional
Testing 2 (Score:2)
Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda
Pants are Optional
Testing 3 (Score:2)
Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda
Pants are Optional
Testing 4 (Score:2)
Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda
Pants are Optional
Testing 3 (Score:2)
Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda
Pants are Optional
Testing 3 (Score:2)
Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda
Pants are Optional
slashdot.org/index_N.shtml = USEFUL? (Score:1)
Great improvements to Slashdot, Rob! How about http://slashdot.org/index_N.shtml as a shortcut to nested mode, like you already have http://slashdot.org/index_F.shtml as a shortcut to flat mode?
That wouldn't work, as any page that has to parse the score would have to be a dynamic page rather than a
Live Testing (Score:1)
But, if years of work on my company's Web community/conferencing system have taught me anything, it's that there are some bugs that just don't show up until you have the system on the public server and have lots of people banging on it. Even having a separate "QA" or "staging" server that the entire company can bang on doesn't always spot the bugs.
That being said, if Rob were to establish a "beta code" site (beta.slashdot.org?) and invite people to come bang on the new code, he'd probably get a decent response. (The Slashdot Effect should be most pronounced for Slashdot itself, wouldn't you agree?) But there is very little chance that even that round of testing would find all the bugs, though it would probably eliminate quite a few.
Then, too, having another "live" site up for beta purposes might cost money that Rob can't afford at the moment...he's gotta eat and buy beer, too. (Rob, I'll send a virtual sixpack your way. And none of that Bud/Miller/Coors crap, either. Maybe there's a good Santa Barbara County microbrew you'd appreciate.)
Eric
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Hatemail? (Score:2)
Cool new features (Score:2)
I also like being able to set the number of comments it'll display on a page to something ludicrously high, too, so I don't have to laboriously page through comments one at a time as soon as the number of responses hits 100. Being able to just page past garbage posts without waiting for the page to reload is great.
I'm still not sure about the moderation... I'd be happier about it if the default setting was to display all postings. Also, I notice that on this page, there's at least one comment with a score of 6... is that a bug or a feature? And if it's possible to raise a score above 5, is it also possible to lower one below -1? Is that why I haven't seen any "First post!" idiots today, despite running with my threshold at -1? Or is someone just flat-out deleting those? Or have they just stopped posting (unlikely, methinks, but possible)? Wish I could set my threshold back down to -2000 to look, but it doesn't seem to want to let me go lower than -1 anymore...
Anyway, thanks for the cool features. Just wish I could figure out how to use them properly without cookies...
Uggh. (Score:1)
You da man! (was Way to go!) (Score:1)
Way to go! (Score:1)
I agree, Way To Go Rob! You're doing a wonderful job. Keep up the good work. Thank you for making the comments bearable again.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so!
Hang in there, Rob (Score:2)
The site's looking better every day, and those who use it every day really appreciate it. Don't let the hate mail get you down. Go get yourself that beer.
sorting by article number doesn't work (Score:1)
Comment order: oldest first
Comment threshold: 0
Here are the names/dates of some consecutive replies it showed me:
by adam on 14:23 26 March 1999 PDT
by David Gould (dgould@ocf.berkeley.edu) on 15:17 26 March 1999 PDT
by beryl on 16:00 26 March 1999 PDT
by Jamie Zawinski (jwz@jwz.org) on 16:21 26 March 1999 PDT
by Anonymous Coward on 16:21 26 March 1999 PDT
by burnsbert (burnsbertNOSPAM@netscape.net) on 13:34 26 March 1999 PDT
by Alan Shutko (ats@acm.org) on 14:01 26 March 1999 PDT
by Signal 11 on 14:02 26 March 1999 PDT
by TedC on 14:06 26 March 1999 PDT
As you see, not only are those not in the order they were posted, they are also not sorted by date.
Does the fact that I have to pick between "PST" and "PDT" mean I'm going to have to change this by hand when daylight-savings time next toggles?
Not Necessary. Also... (Score:2)
I agree, but there is a way around this: I run Junkbuster [junkbuster.com] to filter out ads. By default, it also filters out cookies. So, to let slashdot save its cookie, I had to add slashdot.org to /etc/junkbuster/cookiefile [etcjunkbustercookiefile]. After you do that, exit your browser, and change ``slashdot.org'' to ``>slashdot.org'' to make it be willing to send cookies to slashdot, but not to receive them. That way, you'll log in by default, but slashdot won't be able to change your settings.
Of course if you want to change the global defaults in the future, you need to muck around with cookiefile again.
Ideas (Score:1)
You should only allow moderators to modify scores when they can see all of the comments. This would prevent a problem I forsee where a moderator goes through the +3 comments and ups/downs them, but ignores the really good, unmoderated AC comment because their threshold is too low.
2) Chop long comments
Set a length threshold (# lines, # kilobytes...) after which a comment is cut off. Allow someone to expand it in a manner similar to the story expansion already available.
-Ben
Moderation Problems (Score:1)
TedC
Delete article feature? (Score:2)
Why? (Score:4)
Nice job, Rob (Score:1)
EDT? (Score:2)
don't condemn Rob for his dev style... (Score:1)
don't condemn Rob for his dev style... (Score:1)
Very promising, and an Original Idea for posts (Score:1)
I've set my default threshold to 2 so that I normally only see stuff that _somebody_ thought was worth reading. However, I don't like the idea that one moderator can override another's decision to bump one up.
If you really, really want to keep the possibility of voting -1, maybe that should be limited to a small number of moderators (i.e. Rob and a couple of others). Presumably Rob can override a moderator's vote manually anyway if he really wants to.
Adam
EET (Score:1)
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Very promising, and an Original Idea for posts (Score:1)
I could see maybe having a "moderate down" be more costly than a "moderate up", but I'm really not sure that it is necessary. Look at how few -1 scores there are vs scores >= 2.
Slashdot-Source (Score:1)
Shouldn't someone start treating these like the "first post" comments?
Moderation (Score:2)
an editor.
This isn't a flame against Rob. He's clearly
a techie with a high threshold for bullshit.
When it comes to putting a site up and dealing
with the hassle, this is a good thing; and
when it comes to making decisions or meta-
decisions about content, it's a bad thing.
Felix
More moderation of replys!!! (Score:3)
It's no use you just moderating the original post in a thread - you have to mark up replies as well. Reading in +2 mode is a blessing, but dull unless you moderate the replies too.
Otherwise, keep up the good work.
Matt.
Testing under pressure-- why not? (Score:1)
If the stuff is going to get whacked on, why not let it get whacked on? I think the fact that you CAN test with a high load says a lot about Slash -- and about Rob's Perl cahones. :)
Moderation Problems (Score:1)
Daniel
Nested RULZ!!!!! (Score:1)
Daniel
Fish That, We're all geeks here... (Score:1)
Part of the fun of coming here is being a part of the whole process. Everyone reading this article and posting to it likes being a part of the process, whether they realize it or not!
Don't let'em change this, I love seeing the page change from reload to reload, features appearing like magic from day to day...
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EDT? EST=EST EDT=EST5EDT (Score:1)
(can you tell I live in Kentucky?)
What is a formal dinner in Hoosierland? Everyone wears shoes!
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Why? (Score:1)
I feel like myself again (Score:1)
Let's see, this might be the first customizable community news portal for techs. Can somebody say IPO? Although I hope for Rob's sake that he can make lots of money, I pray that this place will never lose it's soul. So far so good.
Way to go! (Score:1)
With all of these nifty new features there was no way I could resist logging in.
3 cheers for the Taco!
Why? (Score:1)
I think he probably does do his development on a separate machine, but some of these niggles only show up on his live system.
He also may not be able to afford to set up a complete test environment complete with equivalent bandwidth and 75k users providing load testing.
I'm getting my money's worth, what's your beef?
obvious reasons. (Score:1)
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Scott Miga
Wow! (Score:1)
Nested RULZ!!!!! (Score:1)
Way to go Rob!!!
rich minear
AMC Theatres
rminear@amctheatres.com
Black and tan? (Score:1)
unfortunately they were ill-disciplined and badly led, and were prone to killing peoplle, burning down houses and the like, for no good reason other than that they felt like it.
this just added to the ill-will felt by the irish towards the british, and solidified the will of the people to get the British out.
wasn't soon after that the cowardly De Valera sent Mick and Arthur Griffith over to London to negotiate a treaty with the Brits.
but that's a story in itself.
Very promising, and an Original Idea for posts (Score:5)
As promised, I have an Idea for Slashdot comments. How about allowing moderators to only *add* to a messages score? Here's why I think this would work better:
* Less people moaning about censorship, because no one has the power to have fewer people read your post. If it's offtopic/inane/flamebait, etc, it simply will not be moderated up to a higher score.
* People with unpopular, yet reasonable views cannot have their views squelched by the majority. If even one or two moderators think he/she has a legit point, they will show up on high threshholds, even if the majority of moderators want to censor it.
* Under this system, the more you try to get people to agree with you, the more people will see your post. If you want to be heard, it will pay not to be TOO antisocial.
* Moderators will have less opportunity to abuse their power. Currently, a "loose cannon" moderator could go through and moderate down all of a person's posts, giving them a negative overall score and removing any chance that person had of being a moderator in the future.
One thing Slashdot has plenty of is negative feedback. My system would promote more positive feedback, in a wholly non-censoring manner.
Aaron
In response to responses... (Score:1)
I will say this, though: Rob's done a great job adding features to
-Eric
Point well taken. (Score:1)
-Eric
Moderation Problems (Score:5)
Does anyone disagree with this assessment? I will read any (non-flame) rebuttal with an open mind.
-Eric
I suggest a Guiness (Score:1)
Black and tan? (Score:1)
Missing the old flat/threaded capabilities (Score:2)
Basically, I could to pick a particular thread with everything as threaded comments. If the thread looked interesting I would swap just that thread to flat mode and read the lot. Now, if I'm in a thread and then tell it to view in flat mode it moves the entire article + all replies to flat mode - dumping me out of the thread I was in and back to the original page. I can't just optionally see a thread flat (or nested for that matter either). Rob, I'd really like to see this put back in again please!
Improved presentation (Score:1)
Now, if we could only improve the content of the comments section.
Ditto on "Great Job Rob" (Score:1)
Keep the faith! If you've ever in Athens, GA I'll by you that beer.
I suggest a Guiness (Score:1)
one small suggestion... (Score:1)
never mind...
Lookin' Good! (Score:1)
You become adept at mining useful information from chaos.
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
$$ - and load (Score:1)
The next is the fact that the most important testing for slashdot is load testing. And a test server just won't get the load the main server will.
FWIW
Another Congrats Message (Score:1)
The comments used to be that annoying bit at the bottom of the page that delayed the content from rendering. Now they're fun to read and join in with.
If I wore a cap, you can be damned sure that I'd doff it to you.
Rod.
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Take your time... Yep (Score:1)
I think that the new moderation stuff is neat. I've noticed that the page is broken sometimes, but usually when it comes back and is not broken anymore, it tends to be better. Broken Code != Evil Rob
->(= brokencode evilrob)
(nil)
Highlight Threshold is very nice (Score:1)
Using a low comment threshold (say 1) and a
high highlight threshold (say 3) and a comment spill of 0 gives a nice way to view everything without being overwhelmed by comments.
Thanks. Still,... (Score:1)
Thanks, I'll check that out. Still, I think it would be a nice feature for
By the way, another small problem with preferences: my sig uses "& lt;" and "& gt;" escapes for ">" and "<" symbols but whenever I go back to my Preferences page, it evaluates them, and interprets them as tags, fooing my sig bar unless I remember to fix it. The comment box does this too; made it a real pain to type this, and I still had to use spaces.
Also, to the first reply: my suggestion was meant for the threaded/flat/nested and sort-order menus, not the thresholds (I stick with -1 anyway). Those are the ones that I think are most important to be able to adjust according to the length and threadedness of each particular discussion, without wanting the change applied to other windows or subsequent sessions.
David Gould
Not Necessary. Also... (Score:3)
He already set an absolute minimum score of -1, which takes care of the negative infinity problem (I personally want to see the discussions with nothing filtered, and I was pretty pissed a while back when I first realized that there were negative scores, because I realized that without a minimum possible score, there was no way I could be sure I wasn't missing anything). I still think killfiles (let each user have a list of authors whose posts are to be filtered) would make a better filtering mechanism because that would allow people to make their own decisions. I'm surprised, given the political climate around here, that more people aren't advocating this.
I also still don't quite agree with automatically assigning lower value to anonymous posts, but I can sort of accept it, especially since it's just one point and good comments are now more likely to be promoted. Now, a score of 0 means "anonymous or downgraded", -1 means "defninitely downgraded", 1 means "signed or upgraded", and 2+ means "definitely ugraded". Unless you want to set a higher threshold, there is no further discrimination involved.
However: I really think the default should be -1 instead of 0, i.e., show everything unless a user opts to have it filtered. This is especially important since (I assume) people who don't log in are not able to set preferences, meaning there's no way for them to get around the filtering. As I see it, this is worse than them not being able to benefit from it. Remember, ever since logins were created, there has been ongoing debate between those who like logins and filtering and those who object to both for reasons of principle. If the default were -1, everyone could be happy; with 0, those who don't log in are still discriminated against. It's sort of weird that you have to log in to see all the anonymous posts. Yes, I know you only miss the downgraded ones. Still.
One other small problem: The view-setting menus on each page are cool, but they should not change the user's preferences. It would be better to be able to change the view settings for each window independently, without the changes becoming permanent (e.g., pass the settings around as a hidden cgi parameter instead) -- I always want to start with the same view, but depending on the nature of each discussion, I'd like to be able to adjust it without having to go back and restore my original setting.
Also, the previous post said: Currently, a "loose cannon" moderator could go through and moderate down all of a person's posts... I don't think that's a problem. I don't know the rules exactly, but I think moderators only have so many "moderator points", so to do what you suggest, someone would have to waste a whole lot of his points and give up the chance to do other "real" moderation. Who's that vindictive? Besides, he still couldn't raise a completely insurmountable barrier.
David Gould
Moderation Problems (Score:1)
What do recent posts look like? They've seemed ok to me, but I haven't read many older (ie, more likely moderated) posts.
More gratuitous commentary (Score:1)
Why? Because it's OSS (Score:2)
Release early and release often....
StickBoy
Source Code? (Score:1)
please release me, let me go!
Release your code Sir Rob!
You're doing great!
I suggest a Guiness (Score:1)
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I'm an American, so nyah! (Score:1)
I'm an American. I don't catch the
British Army reference at all. All
I know is a good drink when I sip it.
Heck, even Adam Yauch of the B. Boys
pays lip service to the wonderful
drink, in A Year And A Day on
Paul's Boutique:
I'm fishin' in my boat, and I'm
fishin' for trout. Mix the Bass Ale
with the Guinness Stout. Fishin'
for a line, inside my brain, and lookin'
out at the world through my window pane.
Nothing like getting a little inspiration
from a tall pint of Guinness.
The New Gnu Knew, Very Soon At The
Zoo, That Guinness Is Good For You.
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s/Guiness/Guinness/g (Score:1)
For as generally pedantic as I am about spelling, I managed to pull a major brain fart there.
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Way to go! (Score:2)
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Easier to iron things out live? (Score:1)
I've found slashdot to be perfectly useable while he's been toying with the features, anyway. And it's kind of cool to see the site change as per Rob's whim. It's not like any of us has money invested in the site, so who cares if it's a little buggy? We get to be involved in the evolution of the comment system! I think it's worth it...
Moderation Problems (Score:1)
1. It's the "will of the majority" -> this is a largely homogenious group of people - geeks/hackers/techno-nerds/whatever, and most of the moderators are of the same cut. So *naturally* anything posted will be viewed through the colored lens of that demographic group.
2. The second way you can take it is, Rob's moderator-selection-process is broken. He should choose people who are "open minded", and select as diverse a group as possible, at all points along the "political scale", as it were.
Both methods have their pros and cons, and I shall leave that to the savvy reader to pick up and fill in in more detail.
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What about the RMS news? (Score:1)
Lookin' Good! (Score:1)
Thanks Rob!
Yes, Rob, YES! It's Great! (Score:1)
You'll never see any flames from my direction. I'm sure that people will come up with more complicated ways to make the preferences even more useful, and that's great - - but I'm thrilled with what we have right now.
Really, I couldn't be happier. With all the new preferences available (especially Nested mode - Rocks!) I can't help but log in to use all those options. For the first time in months, I'm logging in, reading more comments, and actually posting a thing or two from time to time.
So keep up the great work. I'm spending more and more time at Slashdot every day since these changes have taken place. Remeniscent of USENET, but with a great way to filter out all the crap.
And kudos to the moderators: Been doing a great job, and I've enjoyed reading all of the "moderated-up" comments. Makes
Woooo! Viva Slashdot!
(okay, I'm trying to calm down, really....)
What is the default set at? (Score:1)
If it is "all posts viewed" I don't have a problem.
If it is 0 so no negatives appear, it's no longer Open...
I'm repeating myself, I know...
BTW, meept!, first post!, etc.
--diva (Invisible Malcontent)
Uggh. (Score:1)
J/K, I love the changes in this place... Nesting wonderful, and the links on the left panel no longer line wrap... Overall, I am very impressed with the new features. Kudos.
Time flies like an arrow;
Gotta love the "Order by Score" (Score:1)
Slashdot Extensions (Score:1)
'Moderation' (I think evaluation is a better term for the situation) by at least all logged in readers should be the next goal, but it sure takes time. A lot of you should now it from own experience.
Go on, Rob
Way to go! (Score:1)
Kudos CmdrTaco!
Uggh. (Score:1)
More moderation of replys!!! (Score:1)
If nested mode was changed like that, how would it be different from threaded mode?
I like nested mode, as it is, as it combines the best of both threaded and flat modes. Like flat mode, you get the whole subject in one page (which for those of us who have metered 'phone calls with a minimum call charge is very desirable) and it allows you to see the relationship between comments (ie the parent child relationship)
Much appreciated work, Rob. (Score:1)
Nested mode == Rules!
The little [X] boxes at the top of the side boxes (whatever the heck they are called) to instantly turn one off, well, it's a great thing.
Now, if I could set up multiple user configs under my same account, so at the click of a button, I can change from my work settings to my home settings, to my x-terminal settings, to my lynx settings...
Ahhh, now that would be cool...
Why? (Score:1)
I suggest a Guiness (Score:1)
Not Necessary. Also... (Score:1)
re:Way to go! (Score:1)
I like it! (Score:1)
Great changes, but... (Score:1)
But...
Poor old me succumbed to the temptation of downloading IE5, and now the damned thing is hell erratic with SlashDot logins... sometimes it works (and displays my fortune on the main page
Ta.
Hmm.. (Score:1)
Why is it so?
Ta!
Timezones and comment bar (Score:1)
I'm from Israel, i have no idea which timezone it is (GMT+2)
the hour format should have 23:00 26/9/99 too. (my favorite)
the comment bar (that apeard above comments) should have all the features,
(comment spill, highlight, etc.)
keep up the great work, rob.
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You're doing fine(note stupid mistake above) (Score:1)
Not Necessary. Also... (Score:1)
I disagree. J. Random Surfer who wanders in does not want to be exposed to a lot of the lame stuff that gets a -1. It makes this place look like a bathroom wall. If he decides to stay around for even a short time, he'll find the switch to see all of the posts.
Furthermore, even if you don't log in, you can set the comments to display more or less thanks to the neat new controls after the story. But why don't you just log in and set the cookies? You can always log out if you want to post anonymously.
With the new code, Rob has given everyone a great deal of new control over what they see on
Take your time... (Score:5)
Great job (Score:2)
MBrod
Scores of nested articles... (Score:2)
Is this a bug, a feature or a misfeature? I, for my own part, would like to see highly scored posts even if they reply to some junk and are thus down a level or two.
The new highlight feature (all posts = 1 line except for those which pass the threshold and are full-text) sounds *very* useful. Could we get it as one of the standard display choices? (I understand I can set my spillover to 1, but that would be a kludge
time zone (Score:2)
Minor nits aside, Slashdot is great and I want to really thank you for running it!
Keep It Up (Score:2)
The "Highlight Threshold" is a great idea. It provides most of the benefits I was seeking through some of my earlier (different, maybe not as good) suggestions.
I agree with the poster who wants to be able to trigger "Highlight Threshold" on request (rather than setting his spillover to a low number). Just add a "Headers" option to the "Flat, Nested...".
I agree with the poster(s) about the "Order by Score" problem, whereby it only works for first level comments. I also have a concern that if moderators use this option, they will tend to bump up messages that already have a high score, while ignoring new messages that should get a higher score. Personally, I think that "Highlight Threshold" makes "Order by Score" unnecessary.
Nested mode is nice, but I will support capital punishment for anyone who repeats the maximum-depth experiment that some turkey carried out under Moderation 1.1.1.
I think that Rob has been successful enough at implementing changes, that we don't need to berate him for the temporrary bugs that do get through. I would, however, like to see a status page (or a section on the home page) to tell us what is currently happening. That way I won't be bugging him by telling him about things he already knows (like I apparently did earlier today).
I disagree with the idea that moderators should only be able to moderate upward. In that case, how would you get rid of MEEPT? Would you kick out any Moderators who were weird enough to bump up his score? Where would it end? That really would lead to censorship. (Of course, a vote-averaging system would solve the whole problem--nudge, nudge--broken record).
Contrary to some posters, I think that Moderators should increase the scores of (good) posts that are in agreement with their own ideas. Since not all moderators will think the same, this sort of mini-survey would allow us to see the best arguments on both (all) sides of a debate. To me, the moderators should be bumping up posts that make a good point (with which they probably agree), that make an interesting point (agree or not), that provide useful information, or that are entertaining (especially humour).
Lastly, lest it be forgotten, let me repeat an earlier request for a filter-by-date-time option to allow me to view the posts that are newer than my last visit, even if they are nested.
Once again, great work!