Canada Builds World's Fastest Network 184
jd writes "Canada has just constructed an all-optical network, CA*Net3, capable of 80 gigabits per second (though being expanded to 20 terabits per second). This is over 60 times faster than the Internet 2 project, and according to the description, this will be open to the public, rather than closed as Internet 2 is. Anyone in Canada interested in building the world's most distributed high-performance Beowulf?"
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
"That far north". What country do YOU think borders the US on the north? Have you ever BEEN in the northern US or anywhere NEAR Canada?
Do you really think there's some imaginary line that's drawn between the US and Canada where one second (in the US) it's warm, bright, sunny and technological and the next (in Canada) it's dark, cold, barren and they live in igloos?
That'd be a fun dance.
Canda (brr)
US (ooh)
Canada (bo-ring)
US (ooh)
*snort*
Join the weather channel. They don't think Canada "exists" either (the weather just *stops* at the border!).
-nicole
Internet on this? (Score:1)
I'm just wondering what my ping in Q3A would be on this network...
dufke
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Re:eh, you don't get it! (Score:1)
I agree that NBTel is pretty good about bringing new technology to the homes, but it still wasn't there a year ago, my Roger's connection is a _lot_ better than any of the connections my old friends in NB have. (And that should speak volumes for anyone living in Ottawa.)
Re:eh? (Score:1)
So you can tell it from piss.
;-)
it's time to move! (Score:1)
well, i always said that the canadians would (and in fact are) invade(ing) the united states. they can have it. with bandwidth like that i'm heading north. everyone may complain that it's cold up there, so what, it's hot as hell down here in florida. just think of it, i won't even need an industrial air conditioning unit to keep my machines cool. i can open the windows and use a ceiling fan! 8^)
as for what to use the bandwidth for, i don't know just yet, how about an amazing 42,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 player quake 3 arena game? anyone interested? now i just need a server farm for the needed processing power and my personal powerplant to power them all! ahhhh! just thinking about it makes me spooge...
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
its the cold that makes it go fast. (Score:1)
hmm, Canada is actually awesome for new technology to the public. I'd say its probably b/c its so widely spread, w/o that many people, we need a way to connect. so what better place to intro some new tech =8) there's a lot of room for it too (physically).. and a lot of places that aren't hooked up yet.
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
"How come we know we created the phone first?
That day we called the U.S. and nobody answered"
Just having a bit of fun, as I am sure the original U.S. poster was, or hope.
Besides, nobody could be that ignorant / stereotypical...could they? Hmmm, I wonder.
Re:map not accurate (Score:1)
Re:Peep! (Score:1)
Re:They have this great big network for what? (Score:1)
Question? (Score:1)
Canada Kicks Ass! (Score:1)
Jealously is not a virtue.
eh? (Score:1)
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
Nope, if you look at those weather channel maps closely, you'll see that everything north of the U.S. border is white, which is because everything north of the U.S. border is burried under a ton of snow. (Honest! I can't even see out my window because of all that snow, and it's on the second floor! Really!) How exactly we manage to have that much snow when it's so darn hot out is beyond me, but when I look north across the border, I see that Detroit hasn't got any snow at all. Weird, eh?
(For those who don't know, Detroit (in Michigan) is north of Windsor (in Canada).)
Japanese Internet? (Score:1)
Re:Now, to peeve the spooks. (Score:1)
But this is Canada... our government encourages that sort of thing...
Whoo-Hoo! (Score:1)
Hmm... I wonder how the best way to tap into that would be
Human Genome Project (Score:1)
Imagine using even 1% of the world's computing power. You'd have most of the genome project finished before the end of next year.
If anyone knows who to contact.... I'm more than willing to give them a call.
StCathrines (Score:1)
Impressive -- now I can throw out the cable modem (Score:1)
Maybe this means my university will scrap those stupid 14.4 dial-ups I used to have to use.
Hmmm... Rogers, if you are listening, maybe it's time to reduce those cable modem rates?
Technological silliness (Score:1)
Everyone forgets that in computer neworking, delay (latency) is deadly - it's time that you can't get back. For Beowulf clusters to be effective across the widest range of parallel problems, they have to be packed together as closely as possible, to keep the node-to-node delays down to a minimum. Put another way: the more node-to-node communication required, the more that trivial increments in node-to-node communication delay will suck serious multiples of performance from the application.
A Canada-wide Beowulf cluster might work fine for RC5-64 cracking or SETI@HOME, but only because those problems require essentially no node-to-node communication, and the work-sets per node can be set arbitrarily large.
As for Canarie, they did a silly thing: they're using Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM), when they could be using raw SONET or SDH instead. ATM eats ten percent of the bandwidth right off the top, without adding any value at all. What could you do with an additional 8Gb/s out of the original 80Gb/s?
Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
I honestly didn't realize that computers had made it that far north. Of course, where there are computers there's Gates. Don't let Canada become just another extension of Mikkkrosoft!
Welcome and Fight the Power!
I doubt anyone cares: details (Score:1)
They are going to do this using WDM, creating 32 different channs on the wire using different colors
l8r
- cyphunk
PS: This twiddler is freaking hard to type on!
fiberoptics (Score:1)
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Re:Canada's just gearing up for slashdot. (Score:1)
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
Anyway, the only appropriate response, joke or not, is a flood of American jokes (up here in the frozen north, we pass our time by telling Newfie and Yankee jokes, named after a Canadian province and North American country, respectively, whose inhabitants' stupidity is very funny). And please forget about the how-dare-you, we-invented-the-phone, we-burnt-down-the-white-house reactions.
Re:Please tell me you're not in university. (Score:2)
Are skool sistem, on the uthur hand, teeches speling verry wel.
Uncompressed Video (Score:1)
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
to voice my support for a dictatorship
(fascist or otherwise).
i believe they'll be able to get the all
these potholes fixed in a more timely manner.
fix the roads and then on to the ethnic cleansing.
(you know who you are, better start packing).
Re:Info from the canarie site (Score:1)
pr0n!
-russ
Re:its the cold that makes it go fast. (Score:1)
Wait, the Germans had the fastest network (Score:1)
Chicago? (Score:1)
What? since when is Canada a third world country? (Score:1)
Re:Chicago? (Score:1)
That's one down.
Re:... and jello, poutine, and pepsi (Score:1)
GO HABS!
ON Y VA!
Do not disrespect the Arrow (Score:1)
Re:What a disappointing argument! (Score:1)
Canada doesn't really go for beating up on other countries.
We try pretty hard to stay with the peacekeeper role. America seems to go with the enforcer role.
Canada just likes to remind the US that it doesn't win all of its fights. (And that winning a fight isn't that important, anyway).
There's so much more... (Score:1)
Pablum for babies
the paint roller
the snowmobile
Standard Time (i.e. modern system of time zones)
1/2 of Superman
The electric $^#%^ing light bulb!!! (1874) (Canadian Henry Woodward sold a share in his patent to Thomas Edison, who designed a more practical bulb in 1879. However, later on another Cdn Reginald Fessenden invented an even better version and its *his* model we *still* use today around the world. Edison was a middle man between two canucks baby!)
voice over radio
the best screwdriver: "the robertson"
sonar
many cancer-causing (oops) insect repellants
the Polyethylene Garbage Bag (can anyone say landfill?)
the Franks anti-gravity suit (G-suit) - (used by Allied WW2 pilots - later developed into more advanced G-suits)
IMAX movies
Trivial Pursuit
The Java programming language (in the US supported by US coworkers and a US multinational giant)
The Canadarm robotic space arm thing
the rollerskate
Insulin treatment for diabetics
the walkie-talkie
snowblower
electric streetcar
poutine
insulated coverings for indoor skating rinks
the zamboni
kerosene fuel
the McIntosh apple
Greenpeace
The English Patient (sorry guys)
shooting down the Red Baron
the idea of U.N. peacekeepers (blue helmets to you Euro-types)
wood-pulp paper (i.e. modern "paper")
*universal* medicare (Sask. was the first)
Nanaimo Bars
the heart pacemaker (an American later invented one that was much much smaller and could be implanted in the body - definately an improvemnt on the (very big) original)
the kidney dialysis machine
the electron microscope
ginger ale
Oka cheese (yum its so good I'm eating some right now as I hum the gens du pays)
gotta go (yes, I realize doing this was sad)
Re:Human Genome Project (Score:1)
Re:Hard drive? (Score:1)
It just means that T1s and T3s will be provisioned much much cheaper, and your system surely can handle 1.5Mb or 45Mb easily.
Re:canada, eh? (Score:1)
Makes me kinda proud, eh?
Infinite wavelengths. (Score:1)
stuff...
Re:eh? (Score:1)
Re: Canadian Beer (Score:1)
Re:eh? (Score:1)
More CA* net 3 information links (Score:1)
the NOC for this network
Re:... and poutine and boomerang, mixed together.. (Score:1)
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Let's not all suck at the same time please
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
like someone said, wherever you go there will be those who are educated and those who are not.
Some people are just too arrogant for their own good, and I also believe you fall into the latter category.
Lost One (Newfie)
B.Sc Comp. Sci.
Video Game Progammer
Re:canada, eh? (Score:1)
For you americans you might be able to find a Robertson driver at Sears (I saw one there once in the states) and ask your canadian buddies to send you some descent screws (they'll know what you mean).
Re:Peep! (Score:1)
Anybody here heard of Cambrian Systems? (Score:1)
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
Re:Impressive -- now I can throw out the cable mod (Score:1)
(non UofGers: 100% of UGuelph residence is wired like this BTW... and it only costs $100/semester)
Re:Chicago? (Score:1)
Looks old... (Score:1)
Re:canada, eh? (Score:1)
Can you afford $132/second for this? (Score:1)
And that is at uncompressed rates!
Damn Canadians, them with their floppy little heads and beady little eyes. BLAME CANADA!
They have this great big network for what? (Score:1)
Weather? (Score:1)
Re:eh? (Score:1)
No telecos! (Score:1)
First hockey, then comedians and musicians, now the world's fastest network. How do I move to emigrate?
Beowulf and CaNet3 (Score:1)
Re:Wait, the Germans had the fastest network (Score:1)
Fastest network != fastest networking technology.
We are talking about really building a production network, not some lab test results.
Re:What's the TAX on bandwidth? (Score:1)
This message is from the End of the Line. And tomorrow I get my ADSL connection. No, there's nothing subsidized here. Nothing. We just pay and pay. And we LIKE it!
There is no doubt the telecom utility will slap a buck a meg tax on data traffic, and we'll just sit there and take it. No history of revolution against taxation here. We LIKE monopolists!
And at the same time, we practice survivalism on a permanent basis. We don't have to be wacos - I mean Wackos - to stock up on canned goods, rotate our stock, it's bred into us. A country that grew up on mail-order catalogs has been waiting a long time for the Internet to break through. So look out neighbours! A cultural bomb is about to blow!
Dudley Do-right
Re:Anybody here heard of Cambrian Systems? (Score:1)
it is just the colour of your spectacles ;) (Score:1)
what the heck was that?
cheers
Western Canadian with chip on shoulder (Score:1)
Happy to have access to it. (Score:1)
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
Re:canada, eh? (Score:1)
I see you don't have an interest in world history, just the american version of it. Tisk tisk.
RE Mega Cluster in Canada (Score:1)
Yes. I have been kicking this idea around for months. Any one else interested?
Mail me or call me in Vancouver.
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
Canada is the only country to ever invade the US and burn its capitol to the ground. Look up in your history books and you will find that's why your white house was hastily painted white.
Now if you want to call the country that did that "third world", go ahead.
Re:Carleton U is cheaper! (Score:1)
Nice graphic (Score:1)
Way to go, abcnews
It doesn't look that way (Score:1)
Got a 1040 tax instruction booklet from last year? Here's the breakdown:
You need routers. (Score:1)
There's still a fair bit of dark fibre from the Qwest buildout, too...
IMHO, what's going to be one of the major bottlenecks in domestic networks is the local loop that goes to your house and getting local fiber from the CO to elsewhere - not the backbones.
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
They keep melting.
Oup... gotta go help my mom.. she's getting chased down by a polar bear!#$!#
Peep! (Score:1)
The graphic on the article.. Doesn't include Calgary. That's comical, Regina is on there but Calgary isn't.
Hopefully it's just a case of not enough room on the pic
Use the bandwidth to piss off the CRTC (Score:1)
(I love seeing Edmonton on the map and not Calgary. Just makes my heart glow)
BTW: Even without the CA*Net3, Canada is still more wired than the USA.
Canada's just gearing up for slashdot. (Score:1)
Perhaps Canada is just gearing up so they can submit canadian stories to slashdot without saturating there network.
Or worse yet, canada puts up backslashdot.org and tries to backslashdot us.
This could be the reason why slashdot was down last night and this morning!
I think this is an act of war. :)
Info from the canarie site (Score:2)
This is the first totally optical network, which is pretty awesome... it involved a number of companies and government organizations working together, here is a quote from the site:
What they need now is applications for the network, if you're a student, tell your prof and see if you can't get something started!
How sweet it is to be Canadian!
They're already doing a distributed project, Rob.. (Score:1)
Canada's national human genome project, an effort to map all the DNA in the human body, is using CA*Net3 to link 40 powerful computers to perform necessary calculations.
Also check out http://www.canet3.net/ (Score:1)
Re:Bandwidth could earn money in the meantime (Score:1)
If you actually read the article, you'd know it pounded in the point that there was not local demand for the bandwidth that CA*Net3 provides. If the article's wrong, correct it, but don't blame me for responding to the article.
I've always been impressed by my Canadian friends, remarkably insightful and well-educated. If you are Canadian, you sure are bringing down the average.
Pullman Washington... (Score:1)
So looks like the one appartment complex I'm in is has the best net access in Pullman... oh did I mention the rent didn't increase one bit as a result? Too bad the service is horrible. (someone want to help me set up a news box? they won't do it, but have the newsfeed)
How about fractured Binary (Score:1)
Get your US citizenship revoked! (Score:1)
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
http://cwd.ptbcanadian.com/
--Mark
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
So what? (Score:1)
It's like having a ferrari in a driveway leading to terminally potholed roads!!!
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Vive le logiciel... Libre!!!
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
I knew it... (Score:1)
And a worthy project it is, too. (Score:1)
I hope this increases our chances of getting our genes into the public domain before one of the private efforts succeeds and claims the inevitable patents.
Re:Welcome to the 20th Century (Score:1)
I guess not, the dog sled team hasn't made it down that far yet!!!! Probably got ambushed by Polar Bears.
Now, to peeve the spooks. (Score:1)
Now that we've got this giant "library-in-a-second" capacity, we've got to fill it with piles of encrypted traffic. The spy agencies will feel compelled to log, crack, and filter it all, thus consuming more resources and reducing the chance that they'll get up to naughty tricks in their (vastly reduced) spare time.
I think it's safe to say that they've got their listening devices hooked up. It'd be fun to turn on the firehose and rip their lips off.
Being a Canuck has its advantages ... (Score:1)
But when you see what those taxes GET US
I mean, I'm not worried that I'll be financially ruined if I'm ever hospitalized, I can realistically own my own home, and now this!
Sure, there are things I'd like to see changed
Now if only I could get DSL or cable out here in the woods
Re:ALL N. American beer is crap (Score:1)
Only because good stuff is not imported. It is still piss compared to good German thing...