James Bond's 'Q' Dies 269
Pzykotic writes "The great actor Desmond Llewelyn, who played Q in all but 2 Bond films died in a head-on car crash in England today at age 85. I loved that guy, he will be sorely missed." Here's the BBC story. 72 readers submitted this news before we got it posted, so obviously Mr. Llewelyn was a bit of a geek icon, eh? Update: 12/19 07:51 by CT : I just watched Thunderball last night. God he was cool.
B'ham UK? (Score:1)
Re:Very Interesting (Score:1)
Re:Very Interesting (Score:1)
I had one of those ! (Score:1)
My favourite was the theft alarm installed on the Lotus !
Vale Desmond....a part of my life for longer than I care to remember.
depends on the size of the car... (Score:2)
Re:How young is too young to post? (Score:1)
It sounds like the other driver is at fault...
he has requested that his (and the name of his, er, "female companion") not be released.
The wrath of geeks aside, that is not the action of an innocent man.
In these days when so many people seem to think it acceptable to vent their feelings without any attempt to discover the facts, any sane person who is in any way connected with the death of a celebrity will want their identity withheld from the masses. When you have been in a serious road accident, the last thing you need is to be inundated with hate mail. Considering the weather conditions in the UK this weekend, I would wait for some real evidence before pointing any fingers.
Desmond Llewelyn will be missed by many, but perhaps we should also think of the other people who died in road accidents in the UK this weekend (BBC report [bbc.co.uk]).
Q (Score:1)
The really scary coincidence... (Score:1)
She's a little freaked out now...
Freedom of Speech? (Score:1)
I don't think the idea of deleting an offensive comment, even if generated by a computer application, violates our freedom of speech. However, it violates our freedom to choose what we think is appropriate in our own minds to view. We don't need Slashdot to choose what's unsuitable for our eyes. It's censorship, man- there's NO way we should allow that!
On a sidenote, I must state that Mr. Llewelyn WILL be sorely missed, and any inane comments bashing his tragic death should be disregarded anyway... LOUSY PUNKS!
Afro Ryan [aol.com]
Re:depends on the size of the car... (Score:1)
Yup, I made the assumption that it was two somewhat equally sized cars. But of course, the heavier/bigger car always "wins". It's simple, it's just the rule of motion, mass, and impact.
So if we want to make it really safe, everybody ought to drive pickup trucks...uh... I guess it's that screwed up logic that makes the use of pickup trucks in the US so high.
Re:Really sad.. (Score:1)
Oh my God, I killed Q! Well, I'm sure he'll be back in the next film. In more than one way
Chris.
Re:It's a valid observation. (Score:1)
But still, it's true. An extra ten seconds talking to someone - anyone - probably would have saved his life. Man, now I *am* depressed.. *sighs*
Merry Christmas etc, peeps.
Chris.
Re:How young is too young to post? (Score:1)
Chris.
Re:How will the Bond films handle it?? (Score:2)
I've actually seen it, but considering the way they have chopped and changed characters in the past, who knows what will happen!
John will probably make a good Q, but I can see other actors that would be quite good in the part, expecially those who already have scientific bent, and a possible comedy angle.
Possible scenario (whch could indeed start a whole new film) could have the science facility being destroyed by some terrorist group/whatever, and Bond goes out for revenge... "Q's Revenge".. who knows.. they've come out with some weirder stuff before! Anything is possible.
Re:How young is too young to post? (Score:1)
It sounds like the other driver is at fault...
he has requested that his (and the name of his,
er, "female companion") not be released.
The wrath of geeks aside, that is not the
action of an innocent man.
Too bad about the boat (Score:1)
Seriously, he was a great contributor to the whole Bond mythos and will be missed.
He will be missed... (Score:1)
Ahhhhhh! (Score:1)
Strangely prophetic... (Score:4)
He will be missed.
Re:Q helped hold the franchise together (Score:2)
Rather stinks that he died in a car accident on the way home after a book signing (right?). Bet the person who got into the crash with him feels like a piece of crap now.
Jazilla.org - the Java Mozilla [sourceforge.net]
Re:His other work (Score:2)
Amazing Coincidence (Score:2)
(Planting the conspiracy theory seed early)
A line we will see in the next bond film (Score:2)
He'll be missed (Score:1)
Au revoir, Q!
leaving anyway... (Score:1)
Rest in Peace Desmond.
Gary
CNN too (Score:4)
"You should never have your best trousers on when you turn
Re:He will be missed... (Score:1)
Re:How will the Bond films handle it?? (Score:1)
What were the odds? He shoots like 5 minutes every movie (1 every 2 years).
Anyway.. Maybe some comunist captures him to find out about the technology that Bonds uses, and kills him (or Q takes one of those pils to die)..
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His other work (Score:3)
Here's [imdb.com] a listing of what he did.
Re:Q helped hold the franchise together (Score:1)
Judi Dench, the actress who played M in the past three films, held the part of Money Penny in every other film. This makes her the only actor to appear in all 19 Bond films. Also, Money Penny has been played by Samantha Bond since Dench moved to M, therefore, there has only been once since then.
looks like the eject jammed ... (nt) (Score:2)
Re:Q helped hold the franchise together (Score:2)
But not the Bond character - I like Brosnan as Bond, but I don't want another case of 'A View To A Kill', in which Roger Moore played Bond at a time when he was 58 (!).
I stand corrected (Score:1)
And Lois Maxwell, not Dench, was Moneypenny through all the Connery's and Moore's (and the Lazenby)
I was just going from memory; it didn't occur to me to pop over to IMD and check. But then again, I wasn't expecting my post to get uped to a score of 5.
I guess the point I wanted to make is Bond's family (M, Monney Penny, Q) add a lot to the series and it helps if they keep the same actor in the role for a long period of time. I also like how M was one of the main charachters in TWINE instead of a beaurcrat behind a dsk.
Re:It's a valid observation. (Score:2)
We can second-guess ourselves too the max, but a chaotic universe where a butterfly's flight can influence a hurricane days later is just too damn complicated for us to bear responsibilities for such "If only"s.
Aye der ceptin (Score:1)
Probably should have mentioned that. IMHO, Bond should be played by someone in his late 30's or 40's, which is why you don't want to change the rest of the cast any more than you have to.
Mr Showbiz link (Score:2)
[go.com]
http://mrshowbiz.go.com/news/Todays_Stories/991
It's a valid observation. (Score:1)
So this post wasn't necessarily an attempt to be funny; Don't berate it for its failure to do so.
small but loud groups... (Score:1)
Now for my suggestion (listen up, Cmdr)... a kill button by each post, if a certain ratio of views/clicks is reached the post goes bye bye (or at least automatic -1).
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Re:I stand corrected (Score:1)
Unfortunate they didn't let Dame Dench's "M" show a little more of the resourcefulness and tradecraft that she must have had as an agent before she got promoted to "M".
But the exit scene for "Q" in the current Bond movie is one of the best parts of it, IMHO.
Rest in peace, Desmond Llewelyn...
Re:Q helped hold the franchise together (Score:1)
No she didn't. Judi Dench has only appeared in the Brosnan Bond films, and only in the role of 'M'.
Moneypenny was played by Lois Maxwell in every (official) Bond film from 'Dr No' until 'A View to a Kill'; Bernard Lee played 'M' from 'Dr No' until 'Moonraker'.
See IMDB [imdb.com].
Re:Q helped hold the franchise together (Score:1)
CY
Re:Q helped hold the franchise together (Score:1)
Briefings on briefs... (Score:1)
I've also thought that a special film that ONLY consisted of his briefings to the various incarnations (is he a Time Lord or WHAT) of James Bond would be wonderful- especially for techies to watch. His dry delivery was too good for words.
I just hope that the other car wasn't driven by John Cleese, looking for a promotion
Hopefully Cleese will be able to carry the load in the future- but it can't help him that we've got such high expectations for subtle wit...
Re:How will the Bond films handle it?? (Score:3)
Re:Keep an eye out for "Escape 2000" (Score:1)
you are ordered to LEAVE THE BRONX!!
Re:Strangely prophetic... (Score:1)
reponse from orig. poster (Score:1)
So, as the others have remarked, chill!
Re:Which two was he not in? (Score:2)
Please don't use "real" where "official" would be better.
The other Bond films have a character called James Bond and are substantially based on works by Ian Fleming, so they're as "real" as any other 007 movie. They just aren't part of the EON "official" continuity (such as it is).
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No, no, no. (Score:3)
M was played consistantly by Bernard Lee from Dr. No through Moonraker (11 times); when Lee died in 1981, they filled in once (For Your Eyes Only) with a Minister of Defense (Geoffrey Keen), not an "M", then Robert Brown played M in Octopussy, View to a Kill, and Dalton's two (Living Daylights, License to Kill). Dame Judi Dench came aboard along with Brosnan (so she's been M less times than any one else who has been M, though she's been given more to do with the role than the others put together).
And Lois Maxwell, not Dench, was Moneypenny through all the Connery's and Moore's (and the Lazenby); Caroline Bliss was in Dalton's two, and Samantha Bond has been in Brosnan's three.
When in doubt, check with imdb. I did.
Re:I stand corrected (Score:2)
It was established on her entrance in _Goldeneye_ that she was a "bean-counter", possibly even from outside the intelligence community. She certainly wasn't ever a field agent.
(I wish they'd give her a name; Benson's books call her Barbara Mawdsley.)
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Fitting Epitaph (Score:2)
God had a mission and needed his help.
We'll miss you, Des. Without you, how will 007 ever grow up?
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Re:And what a job! (Score:2)
Less violence. More technology. More luxurious deadlines. shorter commute. More comfortable cloths.
The only downside is that you need to recreate female company while _foo_ duty ( as opposed to when Bond dose it ).
Did I mention that I want to be 'Q' ? I have a thing for the technical genius in the background. Scotty or Laforge on Star Track and Forge in the X Men. You didn't think my name was original now ?
Bad Omen? (Score:1)
Re:Did anyone think..... (Score:1)
In real life.... he wasn't really a geek (Score:1)
Now that's cool.
commando...
He's banging a 30 year old! (Score:1)
WHAT A STUD!!! at least he went out in style!
My apologies... (Score:1)
Damn. Oh, damn. (Score:1)
Re:Which two was he not in? (Score:2)
The two James Bond films which aren't part of that series are Casino Royale [imdb.com] (1967, Quite a number of people playing 007) and Never Say Never Again [imdb.com] (1983, Sean Connery as 007).
Q appeared in all of the "real" series movies, except Doctor No (1962, Sean Connery as 007) and Live and Let Die (1973, Roger Moore as 007). He first appeared in From Russia with Love (1963, Sean Connery as 007).
Probably my favorite Q device was "Little Nellie", the tiny killer gyrocopter 007 flies in You Only Live Twice.
I mourn his passing greatly, and I extend sympathy to his family, friends and fans everywhere.
Re:Which two was he not in? (Score:2)
-Chris
Re:Amazing Coincidence (Score:1)
Hmmm...driving at 85? (Score:1)
I still think... (Score:2)
that they should have brough John De Lance in as his successor...
Quite True (Score:1)
Re:He will be missed... (Score:2)
"You should never have your best trousers on when you turn
Ironic about those cool toys... (Score:1)
Do you find it the slightest bit amusing that the old Bond and Trek technology is so funny now? Already?
Did you notice that Trek communicators suck compared to a Nokia cell phone?
Did you notice that in the original Trek, they had to swap those stupid disk things more than a Classic Mac with no hard drive?
Isn't it amusing that my Palm computer is smaller than the Trek PADD?
. . . Goodbye, Q. You will be missed greatly.
How will the Bond films handle it?? (Score:3)
It'll be interesting how the Bond series handles this. Desmond had previously stated that he wanted to do the part until he died, and had supposedly made remarks that if he died on-stage that it was to be used as footage if possible.
So will it just be that Q retires, or that something happens to him in the next film? Only time, and his family, will tell I guess.
It is of course possible that they filmed an ending scene for him already. Then of course there is all the technical trickery that can be done with computers and existing footage (some of which would probably be from the cutting room floor).
Of course, no one will ever truely replace Q, but it will be a sought after role for many actors. So who should be the next Q? Slashdot poll anyone?
Whatever happens, I think there should be some sort of dedication to him at the start of the next film, such as In the memory of Desmond Llewelyn, may he rest in peace.
I wonder why (Score:1)
he will be missed (Score:1)
Kudos to the man, and his memory.
Re:A little known fact - Q's real name (Score:1)
Sad Coincidence (Score:1)
He will be sadly missed (Score:1)
Conspiracy? (Score:1)
Re:How will the Bond films handle it?? (Score:1)
Re:Favorite Gadget? (Score:1)
hearing the audience gasp with awestruck envy when he reached up with one hand -- to activate his DIGITAL WATCH
A similar incident I remember was in Batman where the batmobile is shown to have a *gasp* CD PLAYER!
Penny-Bond dynamics, and a rant on Forge's sexism (Score:1)
Actually, my perception was that she was always trying to get him in bed, and he was always politely snubbing her. That was the whole dynamics of their on-screen relations: He may have been a player, but he was too smart to sleep with his own secretary--that would have ruined their professional relationship. At least, I thought that was the subtext. I thought theirs was the most interesting Bond relationship to watch: Every movie, you wondered if they would finally end up in the sack. Every movie, they didn't. But, just like Money herself, you kept on hoping. ;)
And now for a bit of a rant...
I don't think it's appropriate for you to dictate what should be the "morals" of "young girls", especially when you complain that (as Q) "you need to recreate female company while _foo_ duty" (sic) in your post below. When will the sexual double standard ever die? In America it's breathing its last, but perhaps in Jamaica it remains entrenched. It's interesting in this light that you refer to grown women as "girls", as that is the most patronizingly sexist term you could choose.
Wake up. They're women, not girls. They are full adults in their own right, and they're competent to make their own decisions, about sexuality as about everything else. They don't need the likes of you showing them "role model[s] from a moral perspective," trying to keep them chaste while you "recreate female company" wherever you like.
They can think for themselves. And they will. I hope they choose to give you the cold shoulder until you grow up in your attitudes,
Re:How will the Bond films handle it?? (Score:1)
Geek of all Geeks (Score:1)
Really sad.. (Score:4)
Chris.
Re:How will the Bond films handle it?? (Score:1)
James closes in with the latest car hits the button for the rocket launcher and boom is ejected from the car.
It could add an interesting twist. A bond movie where the toy's misfire.
Cormac
It's odd ... (Score:2)
Re:Death icon. DEATH ICON!!!!! (Score:2)
Well, If the person who died was of interest or relevance to Geeks and Nerds, why not? I doubt there would be an arguement to the Slashdot gang posting RMS's, ESR's, or Knuth's obit. if they happened to kick the bucket. I think the same should apply to Desmond Llewelyn, or DeForest Kelly.
>If this IS news for nerds (by some twisted definition)
While neither of them directly contributed to computing or the Open Source movement, they both had an impact on every Geek I know, and most that I don't know. I think the fact that 72 people sent this in before it was posted shows this. Hell, I'd go so far as to say Q has had as much of an influence on me being a Geek as Lego and computers. Just because this particular posting isn't interesting to *you*, it dosen't mean that it's irrelevant to *lots* of other people.
"News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters." is not restricted to "News on Open Source. Stuff about Computers."
Mike
Re:I still think... (Score:2)
John DeLancie would be a very good choice, puns aside.
(For those who don't know, John played "Q" on every Star Trek series since "Next Generation".)
Heck, maybe every person who plays his replacement could be an actor named John.
A little known fact - Q's real name (Score:2)
Personally, I don't think he will ever be replaced - I respect Cleese's work, and think he is a piss-funny comedian, but that's just not what Q was.
"Oh, grow UP, 007!"
Yes, offtopic but please read on (Score:2)
Now, I'm writing this as around 60 comments have been posted... of which nearly a fifth have been complete troll trash... and all apart from one of them has been an anonymous coward post.
I like to read at -1 or 0 because then I can read the unmoderated comments that may not be abusive, but not good enough to be top rated.
However, it gets to me the amount of sheer abuse and crap there is in this story.
Sod the whole anonymous coward concept - make them register and then if they're abuse, report the ip and time/date to their isp... who have probably got stringent rules about such behaviour.
Shame... 'Q' was my fave from the Bond films.
The passing of a geak idol. (Score:3)
Q will be surely missed. I will be wearing a black arm band to see "The world is not enough" in memory of him. If anyone else cares to pay his/her respects in this way go right ahead.
The whole Bond thing is woven into Jamaican culture since Ian Fleming lived here when he wrote the early stories. At least 2 of the movies were set here ( in part ). "James Bond" ( the name ) was the author of a book on Caribbean birds. Mr. Fleming stole his name because "It was the most boring name I could find". He was more than a little surprised when at the opening of one of the 1st 007 flicks Mr. Bond walked up to him and introduced himself just like the goy in the movie. Except with ID to prove it.
Q. Of course was a key character in all of this. Without him, there would be no way to know before hand what kind of arsenal 007 carried and that would just make his antics seam a little lame.
Q helped hold the franchise together (Score:5)
How fortunate (for the Bond fans anyway) that they set up Q's succession in The World Is Not Enough. Cleese is a good choice, not only because he's a good actor but because he wont try to be like Llewelyn's Q. He'll be geeky and techy, but it looks like he has a low opinion of Bond and I look forward to watching them quibble in furture movies.
I hope Cleese will be able to stay on as long as Llewelyn did, and I also hope the other actors (like the one that plays M) stick around for a long time. I think it adds a lot to a running series if you keep the same people or objects around, like Llewelyn as Q or the Tardis in Dr. Who. Now they just need to find some Sophia Loren type chick (one that still looks great in her 60's) at the age of 18 to play Money Penny.
Goodbye Desmond, thanks for helping to make Bond into what he his today. You will be missed as one of the great geek heroes of this century.
Re:Amazing Coincidence (Score:2)
According to what he repeated many times in several interviews, he didn't really like any technical gadgets at all in the real life (tm). In his experience [gamespot.co.uk], all gadgets almost magically ceased to work at his presence.
So if we suppose that the airbag in his car didn't function correctly, this malfunction hardly came as a surprise to him! :-I
And what a job! (Score:2)
If you can't be a 00agent, Q is the next best job. Fake fingerprints, exploding pens, third nipples, grappling hook watches, laser rifles, explosive bolas....that's the life.
Well, Q, you've given us words to live by.
"Don't let them see you bleed.
Always have an escape route."
You won't be forgotten. As long as ballpoint pens sprout needles, speedboats navigate the streets of London, and wrist dart launchers blow out centrafuges, we'll remember you.
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-Ravagin
Re:Death icon. DEATH ICON!!!!! (Score:3)
Condolences to Desmond's family (Score:2)
Re:Q was going to stay (Score:3)
This is not true. See this article [ianfleming.org] for further information.
Re:How will the Bond films handle it?? (Score:2)
The Original Hacker (Score:2)
85 in a head on car crash. Looks like he didn't stop living 'til his heart stopped.
Also mentioned in "Spy who loved me" (Score:2)
Re:Death icon. DEATH ICON!!!!! (Score:2)
Maybe we should have a requirement that people get a certain score on the nerd test in order to post.
Re:Amazing Coincidence (Score:3)
They'd just introduced his replacement which under other circumstances would have been OK, but Llewellyn was looking fragile with age (his speech had become rather slurred too). So much so that it was almost shocking to see him like that. It struck me even then that it was unlikely he'd live long enough to appear in another film.
As he descended through the trap door, his witty line about "always having an escape route" seemed like a half-hearted attempt to inject humour into a literally very morbid scene. which was really about a admission about something that was happening in real life.
Ironic indeed that an accident should claim him before natural causes. Of course it's not beyond credibility that his condition might have contributed to the accident in some way.
Consciousness is not what it thinks it is
Thought exists only as an abstraction
Q was truely a geek's geek... (Score:2)
Hell, he even helps have the day in that movie and is swarmed over by a bunch of numble young circus performers....
Now I may just be crazy (Score:2)
The fact that he actally DOES die after TWINE is released and in the movie he "retires" seems odd. Very odd.
Did anyone else see the obituary/article two years ago? Where was it? I seem to recall it being an NYT thing.
-Chris
Let Me Die A Youngman's Death (Score:4)
not a clean & in between
the sheets holy water death
not a famous-last-words
peaceful out of breath death
When I'm 73
& in constant good tumour
may I be mown down at dawn
by a bright red sports car
on my way home
from an all night party
Or when I'm 91
with silver hair
& sitting in a barber's chair
may rival gangsters
with ham fisted tommy guns burst in
& give me a short back and insides
Or when I'm 104
& banned from the Cavern
may my mistress
catch me in bed with her daughter
& fearing for her son
cut me up into little pieces
& throw away every piece but one
Let me die a youngman's death
not a free from sin tiptoe in
candle wax and waning death
not a curtains drawn by angels borne
what a nice way to go death
(Roger McGough)
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