Rumoured DVD Release of Episode One in April, 2000 214
danimal wrote with news for the Star Wars buffs: From the NewsAskew site
comes the tidbit that
Star Wars Episode I DVD will be coming out in April of 2000. It's a tip from an anonymous source, but the official announcement is supposed to be coming Jan. 4 from the Lucas man himself. The announcement is midway down the NewsAskew page.
woo hoooooo (Score:1)
anything cool on there? (Score:1)
Really? (Score:1)
Re:anything cool on there? (Score:1)
What about the others? (Score:1)
yahoo for ep1, but what about the trilogy?? (Score:1)
Proof!! (Score:2)
Now I can prove that there are ETs in the senate scene. And I'll be able to look for all of the other add-ins. I wonder if there are anything like the backwards bounty hunters. An excellent movie to watch in slow motion during those large crowd scenes.
Not from what I hear (Score:5)
Re:yahoo for ep1, but what about the trilogy?? (Score:1)
"that's right, when can we expect the trilogy to be released on dvd? i'd much rather prefer them over episode 1, but then again, this is a start."
Umm.....Yep. (Score:2)
Here comes the flames, and there goes my karma.
Overrated, overhyped... (Score:2)
Pathetic movie. This news item should have been a mere footnote, if that.
Decent acting and a plot. (Score:1)
- A.P.
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DVD NEEDS Star Wars (Score:3)
I for one hope DVD doesn't die. And I'm not just saying that because I expect to get a DVD player for my birthday and/or Christmas
I didn't read the story, but I can imagine that the DVD edition of Episode One will contain all kinds of goodies. And when the Original Series comes out... I hope you can get both the original and special edition, but I doubt that.
Re:Umm.....Yep. (Score:1)
I don't think you fully appreciate the full impact of this anouncement. One one hand, the unrealistic effects (in particular Jar fscking Jar) might be rendered worse than they were on the big screen , on the other hand, this might be a load of crap that isn't going to happen.
Honestly, some people wouldn't know news if it sat on their face!
TPM would be nice, but where is Indiana Jones? (Score:2)
I'd rather see those remastered, letterboxed, and supplemented before I go out and pick up TPM.
"Those people are trying to kill us!" "I know, Dad!" "Well, it's a new experience for me." "Happens to me all the time..."
no it's false (Score:2)
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Agreed (Score:2)
Sorry. That last bit was uncalled for. I apologize.
Re:Good thing I allready have the mpeg version.. (Score:1)
I thought Lucas killed all the pirates. (Score:1)
Me too.
- A.P.
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Multiple Angles/soundtracks? (Score:1)
Re:This is news? (Score:1)
Re:Really? (Score:1)
Lucas is, after all, the king of tie-ins and other cash-cow-beating schemes.
Ever the cynic..
Cartoons? (Score:1)
(belch) Excuse me.
Re:Really? (Score:1)
Bad Reviews? (Score:1)
PEACE
Re:Episode 1 (Score:1)
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April Fools? (Score:1)
Re:DVD will not support THX (Score:1)
Re:woo hoooooo (Score:1)
Not until.. (Score:2)
future of dvd. (Score:1)
Doesn't HDTV have a higher quality than the current dvd movie format?
A: Will there be another new media for movies, which will force us to ditch our dvd player?
or B: Aren't DVD movies just Mpeg2 encoded data? Which could just have the resolution scaled up to hdtv quality (perportional to size, and cpu usage, IIRC).
I'm just curious about the subject because I've been kinda reluctant to buy a lot of movies for the fear that this will just be another technology that goes the way of the Dodo in a few years.
-nick
Re:Not from what I hear (Score:1)
I doubt it. (Score:1)
Now, that is assuming someone doesn't decide to swipe a roll of film and burn a few copies to DVD.
Marketing, ya gotta love it!
-Vel
Re:Not from what I hear (Score:2)
Now if I were George Lucas, I'd:
Re:What about the others? (Score:1)
Re:Good thing I allready have the mpeg version.. (Score:1)
I think more to the point would be: Unless whoever watches the movie has a THX theatre, I think both versions would be about the same.
THX is a specification for movie theatres, not a digital sound format.
Re:Bad Reviews? (Score:2)
Luckily PM has an excuse -- it's a movie for kids.
No, seriously -- all the star wars films are bound to come out on DVD and video sometime. Why is it news when they do. All movies do it.
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Re:TPM would be nice, but where is Indiana Jones? (Score:1)
Re:TPM would be nice, but where is Indiana Jones? (Score:2)
> are out now, THX remastered and letterboxed.
I've debated picking those up, but I'm holding out for the DVD version. Paramount seems to finally have caught on that people want more than just the movie on their DVDs, so hopefully they won't just rush out a quickie transfer but take the time to add the supplements as well.
They're among the most requested DVD tiitles (right up there w/ the original Star Wars movies and "The Princess Bride"), so there is hope. Maybe.
Then again, there's no public commitment to releasing either "Airplane!" or "Buckaroo Banzai," so I'm still bummin'.
Re:hey genius (Score:2)
Sigh...um, yes, I know that. And have you ever watched the video version of "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?" Check out the scene with Indy letting his father know where to begin the search for the Grail. You're supposed to be seeing them side-by-side, but the transfer cuts between their faces. The movie is widescreen, the transfer is what's not.
Be that as it may, you are correct about me being fucking brilliant. Now convince my employer in time for my next review....
Re:future of dvd. (Score:1)
It won't look any less nice...
Essentially there's a level of detail captured in the MPEG data stream, and that's your "not to be exceeded" quality level. If it captures Natalie Portman's pores in that detail level, you'll see them in HDTV; if it doesn't, you won't. MPEG2 allows for variability in data rates, and thus it would be possible to recreate the data stream at a higher quality level, and thus get an HDTV quality data stream that does look better. But it's a big question as to whether this will happen, just as S-VHS hasn't taken over the VHS market. As-is, DVD is at a sort of "magic" level -- a disk format that can handle 2 hours of movie. And I've seen players that will take 200 disks, so DVD's size isn't much of an issue. It would take a lot for a new format to push current DVD and its MPEG quality out of the market.
You might end up wanting a new player that puts out an HDTV signal rather than an NTSC signal that gets converted. The new player should still play your old disks, but it may also work with "Ultra" DVDs that use a higher compression. Odds are you'll only notice the difference if you're looking for it or doing image capture.
Re:Does Anyone Really Care? (Score:1)
George Lucas said himself, Star Wars was done for kids. From what I've heard, lots of kids loved the movie and Jar Jar (I personally think he's worse than an Ewok). Jar Jar was designed for kids and kids love him.
I don't think Mr. Lucas is stuck in a rut. When he created Star Wars, he did it to give kids a modern myth since there weren't any. TPM is the beginning of the story and we still have two more episodes to see before we get the whole story. I hear people complain about the lack of closure and how they didn't like it. Well, the first one had to have closure because he didn't know if he'd be able to make the next two after that. This one didn't need closure because the next two were already going to be made.
You say a movie doesn't have to have special effects to wow us. I don't believe you. If you take the special effects out of every movie made in the last 5 years, I think you'll have some pretty boring movies.
VideoStore Magazine Article (Score:1)
Re:Bad Reviews? (Score:1)
I always like a closing before my sig, so just insert whatever nice little diddy of a phrase that you'd want here.
Re:This is news? (Score:1)
Re:Agreed (Score:1)
Sorry. That last bit was uncalled for. I apologize.
Yeah man, don't be dissin' Boba Fett.
I'll believe it when I see it (Score:3)
Every time they have said it, it ain't true. I will bet all 51 of my karma points that it ain't true this time either.
Re:Troll? I think not. (Score:1)
Trolls are for first posts, not opinion pieces, as you said. If this keeps up
good setup (Score:1)
JB
Re:praise the force (Score:1)
I agree with you about the lightsaber though. Even though it was used offensively, it seemed to be more suited as a defensive weapon than anything else.
Titanic first (Score:2)
What format? (Score:1)
I'm releasing Episode One on DVD on April 1st (Score:1)
And it'll be the Jar Jar-free version!
Place your orders!!
Re:Not from what I hear (Score:4)
In other words, the rumors have been bunk so far, and until there is a press release posted by Fox on their website, they will continue to be bunk.
Re:praise the force (Score:2)
There was no STORY! Lucas writing a long sequence of scenes, loosely tying them together (sometimes not), and masking the whole thing with dazzling visuals, and calling _that_ a movie was insulting to the general audience. Eyecandy, yes. Entertaining, maybe. Good story, hardly! I don't care if he says 'Episode I' was geared for children, they still deserve a good story!
Talking about children, I despised Lucas' way of handling "war" in Episode I. Showing children that war is fun, that funny things happen constantly in war, and that wars are won with comic accidents shows that Lucas is totally out of touch with reality. I'm not saying there should've been blood and gore, but giving us one line of "isa therea peoplea gonna diea?" to portray the horror of war is not enough.
And acting! Or rather the lack of it. Nobody, _nobody_ did even a decent job of acting in the movie. And I'm not talking about Jar Jar; I think the CGI programmers actually did the best job of "acting" in the movie. The sad thing is that the movie was filled with good actors and actresses: Samuel L. Jackson, Natalie Portman, Liam Neeson etc. I don't know what the reason for this was, but my speculation is that maybe the actors had trouble relating to green screens. Or maybe Lucas was too restricting in his directing...
George Lucas hasn't directed a feature movie in more than twenty years, and it shows. It seems like he was too totalitarian in his effort. According to the 'Making of's I've seen, he was involved in every single aspect of the movie, starting from the design of the aliens and space ships down to the musical score. This might have been great for a small budget movie like the original 'Star Wars', but when were talking about 100+ million dollar budget, he is just in the way, and restricts the creativity and distracts himself and the people who do this stuff for living. It looks like him being busy with all kinds of stuff that is not his stuff kept him too busy with writing a good story! Or writing a story at all. The movie suffered from a desperate attempt to lay the groundwork for the next five (eight?) movies. Not an easy job obviously, but if you can't handle something, why do it alone?
George Lucas really disappointed me with this one. I kinda liked episodes 4-6, but this was a real flop in every sense of the word, except financially. I went to see it in the theater just for the incredible truel, the choreography by stunt co-ordinator/swordmaster Nick Gillard was just out of this world. It was like totally, awesome! Made my balls itch!
If Lucas does not come up with a good story for the next two episodes, I will not ruin a perfectly good two hours, which I would be better off doing something more productive. Like sleeping. That of course only in the case Natalie Portman will not be in the next episodes!
MotorMachineMercenary
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By the time all of that happpens... (Score:1)
Re:praise the force (Score:1)
Darth Maul was very skilled. If you read the book, you find out that when Obi-Wan went back to the Jedi Council, they tell him that he shouldn't have been able to kill Maul and that he should be dead. That is when they decide that he is ready and they make him a master and give him Anakin as his apprentice.
Also, the first movie was only cryptic because you didn't know anything about the Star Wars universe at all. This one's a little more blatant because you already know some things. It was also done to give people a way to tie it in with the originals. I've heard that the next two won't be so blatant since they've tied everything in and introduced all the main characters so they're going to concentrate more on continuing the story.
Re:So what? (Score:1)
Re:Umm.....Yep. (Score:1)
My brother loves movies, DVDs and the original trilogy. However, while he might get it as part of a set, I doubt The Phantom Menace is something he will ever buy before the first three movies. (Which he already owns on tape 3 times over.)
The Phantom Menace, perfect choice for a first Star Wars DVD? I think not. Well, on the other hand it is Episode One... but I still think Lucas should come out with them in chronological order.
Now here's a really serious question, if/when Lucas comes out with the original trilogy on DVD, should he release the digitally enhanced versions or the original versions as they were shown in theaters? I go for the "as they were shown in theaters originally" versions, but that's because of personal nostalgia. what does everyone else think?
Re:Bad Reviews? (Score:1)
Thats really sad.
I used to be a religeous NeXT fan. My best friend didn't care for them (had lots of reasons). He was still my friend.
By the way, if I said that I don't care for Linux, I prefer FreeBSD instead, you'd not want to be my friend? Sniff... I feel all broken up inside. )-:
Re:By the time all of that happpens... (Score:1)
By that time John Williams and Frank Oz will be DEAD.
Oh, yeah, VII VIII and IX will be real thrillers. GL is probably stock recording Oz saying stuff like "Hard it is, the path of Good," "Be strong in your feelings, but not so strong that use them the Dark Side can," and "Anger: bad it is unless help you defeat the bad guy it can."
He's probably also computer-analyzing John Williams soundtracks so that they can be spat out automatically by a computer for later episodes.
I can hardly wait. Roz Skywalker-Solo sets out to defeat the evil Darth Turnicate. Or some such.
Re:future of dvd. (Score:1)
DVD isn't capable of delivering the bit rates that the max resolution HDTV format uses. Eventually there will probably be some sort of enhanced DVD with a higher storage density and bit delivery rate. Whether or not you will be able to notice the difference has yet to be determined. It may also be a few years away.
DVD is not showing it's full capability with because of NTSC limitations; eventually I expect that you will have a DVD player with a Firewire interface to your HDTV monitor. How good this will be compared full HDTV I don't know. It may be a case where most of the original software isn't as good as the display hardware.
LaserDisc??? (Score:1)
Original, no changing of Han's character (Score:1)
Funny, this was on lugnet today. When Lucas rereleased Ep IV, he made Greedo shoot first at Han, rather than Han shoot Greedo unexpectedly.
That sucks, it weakens Han's character and makes his personality change less interesting.
What's next, let the Death Star shoot first to be sporting?
(Most of this shamelessly lifted from Lugnet).
George
Re:This is news? (Score:1)
seibed
new rumor! (Score:1)
Got you beat. (Score:1)
Ha! I didn't see ep1 or Titanic.
The other reason special edition stunk (Score:1)
p.s. I thought the coolest thing to do for special edition would be to add in some good cursing that would have been too much for the original.
ex. Luke (after blowing up death star) "May the force fscking be with you!"
how about the originals?? (Score:1)
Its like eating cotton candy. (Score:1)
It looks big. It tastes really candy sweet. But when eating it, you realize it is just a lot of fluff and air, and you are left still feeling hungry afterwards.
Throw in an annoying horse-tooth jackass CGI character and you've got yourself TPM!
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do what i did (Score:2)
I don't have an LD player (yet) but I'll be damned if I ever watch those friggin' "Special Edition" of the Star Wars Trilogy ever again.
eBay has lots of LD players for sale, so when I pay off the XMas VISA bill
Oh, BTW the place I ordered the 3 LD's from, had them for $8 a piece, or $23 (US) when you ordered the whole batch! Even with shipping and currency exchange to CAN$, I still came out ahead of getting them here, that is if I could find them anywhere.
Pope
Re:anything cool on there? (Score:1)
Or.... how about a interactive Quake type game where you shoot all the toys/stickers/food/Fast Food trinkets...
Re:praise the force (Score:1)
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How about that podrace color commentator? (Score:1)
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Re:Good thing I allready have the mpeg version.. (Score:1)
Re:praise the force (Score:1)
Here's your chance (Score:1)
Re:By the time all of that happpens... (Score:1)
You mean that's not already how they're done?
Re:DVD will not support THX (Score:2)
Although the earlier response of "retard" is pretty close to the mark, one may want to read the article series, The THX Factor [dvdfile.com], that was posted a while back at dvdfile.com [dvdfile.com] ...
Re:Not from what I hear (Score:1)
People make me sick (Score:1)
Re:LaserDisc??? (Score:1)
Re:Umm.....Yep. (Score:1)
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How about both on the same DVD? There is plenty of room.
Kintanon
Re:Not until.. (Score:1)
Re:Good thing I allready have the mpeg version.. (Score:1)
and to be really nitpicky, THX can be any kind of "Theatre" specification.
Re:Umm.....Yep. (Score:1)
not think as a kid (Score:2)
There are lots of "Kids" movies out there that don't insult the intellegence of adult watchers.
Anything by PIXAR springs to mind.
As for "lightsabers aren't possible," that is the essence of good fiction, right?
There's a certain amount of 'suspension of disbelief' that happend with any good work of fiction, regardless of genre. What gets tricky is when that gets compromised by ridiculous plot points and illogical character actions, both of which TPM had in spades. "Star Wars" was a great afternoon popcorn matinee kind of flick, but had a simple plot, engaging characters, and good action when needed. It created a whole universe in one big gulp that was easy to take and made sense within its INNER logic. TPM introduced a lot of hocus pocus "plot" and a kid-aimed character, Jar Jar, whose comic antics grated on the majority of adults in the audience.
Have you seen Toy Story 1 or 2? There's an awful log of comic action WITHOUT any annoying characters. Are you going to tell me that I can't enjoy Toy Story because toys don't really come to life when I'm not around?
Pope
Re:DVD will not support THX (Score:1)
DVD players could be "THX Certified"... but the DVD's in and of themselves aren't.
Of course, if the DV disc was cert'd, you'd gain nothing by playing in non-cert'd equipment... but that's not the point.
Re:Not from what I hear (Score:1)
Re:Does Anyone Really Care? (Score:1)
It's not that Lucas is stuck in a rut, it's that he has simply realized what the necessary lowest energy state is for the purpose of producing "good movies" these days. Back before he had figured this out, the movies had interesting characters and a plot. 20 years later, he's realized that these things really aren't that necessary, especially if you're trying to attract little kids.
(as an aside regarding the "it was for kids" claim, read the May '99 issue of Wired with Lucas on the cover... he talks about how the movie was all about his desire to tell stories and create myths... he doesn't mention the "it was for kids" thing until _after_ the backlash started)
-Dean
not holding my breath for any episode (Score:1)
Re:VHS != DVD (Score:1)
Both Editions on ONE DVD (Score:1)
Of course, in doing that George couldn't make 2x+ the profits from selling them as separate entities (and boxed sets).
Re:praise the force (Score:1)
One of my labmates theorizes that this is because some people are still amazed by the miracle that the pictures actually move.
-Dean
releasing the DVD so soon is not Lucas's style (Score:1)
Looking at the release schedules of the first three SW films, it is hard to imagine Lucas passing up all that revenue by prematurely releasing Ep. 1 on DVD.
All three of the first movies were released on VHS in a timely fashion. Everyone rushed out to buy them. Then a few years ago, they were released again, with new cover art, slightly remastered (if I recall correctly), and with interviews of Lucas. Everyone rushed out to buy them.
Soon after, they were completely remastered and released in the theatres. Everyone rushed out to see them. The completely remastered versions were then released to video. Everyone rushed out to buy them.
Episode 1 was then released in the theatres. Everyone rushed out to see it.
Fast forward to the future. Lucas releases Episode 1 on VHS. Everyone rushes out to buy it. Lucas then waits a year or more to release the original trilogy on DVD. Everyone rushes out to buy them.
At some point, Episode 1 will be released to DVD...but I wouldn't count on that being anytime soon. Lucas is all about the money folks. He knows he has a huge fan base for the Star Wars movie series that will buy anything he puts out. How do you make the really big money from that? You make those folks pay for the same damn thing over and over again.
It's brilliant.
Re:LaserDisc??? (Score:1)
Re:praise the force (Score:1)
And if you think that movies should only be eye candy, you obviously haven't watched many movies that haven't been made in Hollywood.
Re:Not from what I hear (Score:1)
And why the hostility? He said Fox is quoting 2006, which would be about 10 Mos or so after the finishing of the prequels. So his story jibes.
Re:Titanic first (Score:1)
Check out LinuxVideo [linuxvideo.org] under LiVid. Get dvd_play, ac3dec and nist, follow the dvd_play instructions. Unfortunately, you do need lots of CPU cycles since the code is not optimized (oh, and a G200/G400 with BES helps too
-adnans
Are you nuts? (Score:1)
First of all: Do you think that just because a movie is geared towards adolescents and teens it is OK for it to be resoundingly stupid?
Here are just *some* movies and TV shows made for teens and kids that *aren't* stupid:
1.) Iron Giant
2.) Toy Story, Toy Story 2
3.) Tarzan
4.) Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
5.) Batman TV Series
6.) Superman TV Series
7.) Beast Wars/Beast Machines
8.) DragonBall Z
9.) X-Men
10.) Gargoyles (great, now defunct, series)
etc..etc.. I am sure there are a ton of them out there.
Second of all:
Would you like to explain the entire plot of TPM for me, huh? Why don't you try, and then tell me that its a movie made for kids. Also, don't tell me that slicing someone in half with a light sabre is also kids-oriented material.
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