Dvorak on "Winners and Duds of the Millennium" 297
erikaaboe wrote to us with yet-another-end-of-year round-up. This time around
Dvorak has taken a look at the past year. Winners include Linux, dot-com millionaires, while WinCE and DIVX are flops. Interesting commentary on the dot-com millionaries though.
Re: The Gregorian calendar 3rd Millennium=1/1/2001 (Score:1)
the United States Naval Observatory [navy.mil]
the Royal Greenwich Observatory [nmm.ac.uk]
It matters because you cannot arbitrarily drop years from centuries or millennia and still have a functional calendar everyone can use. We have thousands of books of history based on each century encompassing years 1-100 inclusive. If you decide the 20th Century ends at the end of 1999, then which past century loses the year? (Only 1999 years have passed in the Gregorian calendar.)
If you change something like the method that time is measured or counted by, without unilaterally implementing it as a standard, you cause pervasive problems. As far as i am aware, there has been no world-wide agreement or even a Papal Bull from the Vatican (who created the Gregorian calendar) to short the 20th Century one year.
Re:say what? (Score:1)
He was being sarcastic.
Re:Dvorak vs. Qwerty (Score:1)
We have over 1500 PCs and servers. Not ONE KB other than straight or MS "wave" qwerty.
Of 20 IS/IT folks I asked, only one other had even heard of a Dvorak board.
How did that other Dvorak ever have enough juice to get it in as an option in Win?? or *nix anyway?
I completely agree (Score:2)
And can someone explain to me the difference between Quake 1 and Quake 3? What more monsters and better hardware acceleration? You pay money for this?
Ayee. No wonder the gaming industry makes so much money.
Re:startups (Score:1)
a) time
b) task
c) talent
Time spent is aasy to measure, task-based performance requires some management competence (hah) in defining specifications and quality, and creative talent is more a wild-card in that you can't always predict the outcome.
Now in a risk adverse commercial environment (despite what capital vultures
LL
Can you read? (Score:1)
I _am_ in the real world, and the real world runs on servers, not desktops. Desktops are only access points.
Linux' (and *BSD and Unix in general) success has been on _servers_, it is only because people liek Dvorak are aware of its existence that it is being considered for a clickety-clicky role - the only thing that matters to them.
Somebody _tried_ to make servers clickety clicky, it was called NT. Instead of making servers easier to manage it made for badly managed servers.
Maybe it's time for "corporate America" to realise that there is more to computers than desktops. But then again, in "corporate America" the lowest common denominator tends to rule.
Your response is evidence of this blindness.
-M
Re:say what? (Score:1)
I agree that innovation isn't the deciding factor in "Man of the Year" - making; rather it's _influence_ on the world. Gates has certainly influenced the world! Good or bad, you decide.
Hey - how about Alan Greenspan (Fed Chair) for Man of the Decade? Makes sense to me...
I think Time's selection of Bezos is more of the dot-com millionaire hype, as printed matter tries to assert validity in the Internet age.
WinCE not a faillure (Score:1)
C++ has won the API war (Score:1)
Re:startups (Score:3)
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Re:Lets not forget about games (Score:1)
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking. [lemuria.org]
Actually, this might be hard to do... (Score:1)
Of course, they'd probably settle anyway, just to try to avoid the bad press ("NT kills premature babies on incubator!" what a PR nightmare that would be)
Re:Lets not forget about games (Score:1)
Dvorak.... ZDnet's tabloid psychic (Score:1)
Dvorak is the computer world's version of a tabloid psychic. Make a zillion predictions and one or two of them is bound to be on target. Nevermind about the rest; people forget.
When did the world begin? (Score:1)
Didn't it? What did I miss?
Re:startup employees enjoy life too (Score:1)
The original poster had talked about 16 hour, sleep-under-the-desk start up people. That just doesn't seem like something I'd enjoy. Maybe you do.
I wasn't trying to talk for everyone, mostly just for me. For me, 16 hours a day, sleep under the desk sounds like pure hell. No time to enjoy anything, just to work.
Maybe you can have a life and get rich, but not in the context of the original posters question.
Re:Nope -- exactly on time. You are wrong. (Score:2)
Exactly the point. It's stupid to try and have exact accuracy on this point. Exact accuracy demands 1997, which no one will accept, so why not go with the round number, which is the most useful definition?
*sigh* Your exact accuracy is based on the assumption that the Christian religion is correct. Not only that, but also that the more accurate idea of when Christ was born is also correct. For that matter, we shouldn't have the year start in January, but rather closer to April. And what about that whole "Sabbath is the 7th day of the week" thing? Shouldn't we start the week off on Monday then?
Of course, that's why many scientists tend to use CE (Common Era) and BCE (Before the Common Era), instead of A.D. (Anno Domini) and B.C. (Before Christ) when they use dates. And in that respect, the Common Era began in 1 CE. This is a lot nicer to people of other religions (and there are a lot more non-Christians out there than Christians), providing an arbitrary break in the calendar.
As for the start of the millennium, I figure Jan. 1, 2000 is a good date. It will certainly be the first day of a millennium. You know, August 12, 1954 was also the start of a millennium. However, the 3rd Millennium (proper noun) will begin on Jan. 1, 2001. (As will the 21st Century, but no one seems to care about that.)
startups (Score:2)
Lots of talk.... (Score:4)
Hmm....I think he forgot "lots more users, lots more production servers, a few more paper millionaries, lots more code" and a bunch of other things. Dvorak has never been a friend of Linux, but his spin on this makes it look like Linux was just vaporware instead of something people are using all the time in production, at home, and at play.
If anything, I'd say the Dot-com millionaires is more hype then anything else.
He hit the nail on the head with DIVX though.
Re:Windows CE a flop? (Score:1)
Still with this urban legend? C'mon people, grow up...
Beta failed because the tapes were too short. Putting a movie on a beta tape was too expensive compared to VHS, so the market moved to where the software was available.
Dvorak is just...bad (Score:1)
Chris Hagar
Lets not forget about games (Score:2)
say what? (Score:2)
Re:The flop... (Score:1)
We are all too focused on the "whizbang" aspects of new technology and of course, the potential to make obscene amounts of money. What no one seems to notice that there are social implications, often bad ones. The mainstream public is completely uneducated on these issues since they get there news from the mainstream media, which is completely clueless.
Folks, this is not a good thing. Technology is not going to solve our basic problems. It is not going to make us all rich. It is no substitute for real life interaction and experience.
I'm so burned out on the hype, that technology has started to bore me. It might be more fun to trash my TV and computer and go live in a log cabin in the middle of the woods. That would be REAL living , much better than an "e-whatever" simulation.
Re:Do Slashdot posters ever read the stories? (Score:1)
The fact that this is an ITALIAN company, selling their product in the ITALIAN market, where you can buy their CE phone in the ITALIAN stores is beside the point, right?
Re:Dvorak has some good points here (Score:1)
Old news: now $900,000 (Score:1)
price was $899,000.
not based on MS or Linux opinions (Score:1)
Chris Hagar
Re:say what? (Score:1)
court.
And MS has played catch up, and hasn't hit any homeruns with its e-anything policies.
Now if/when MS gets broken up, that might make it, but otherwise Bill Gates getting richer just isn't newsworthy.
The average man in the street has heard of, or has been affected in some way by Amazon, or the rest of them.
Re:Insightful? (Score:1)
Chris Hagar
Re:java is a flop? (Score:1)
Re:Dvorak is just...bad (Score:1)
Things that should NOT continue next year (Score:1)
I'll leave out the obvious things like users learning/reading something a little before calling tech support or ask on IRC/Usenet, the media doing actual journalism, blaming everything on global warming, or AC dumb posts becasue those will never go away.
Feel free to add more. It's therapeutic to let it all out before we all die in a blaze of nuclear weapons and script kiddies...
Re:java is a flop? (Score:1)
Re:Millenum is finished? (Score:1)
I'm telling you now, on behalf of everyone on the planet bright enough to spell "Millennium", we get it. Let it go.
Re:Sony's not using FireWire on the Vaios (Score:2)
The 6-pin and 4-pin ends of a 1394 cable are part of the same spec. The 6-pin ended cables are capable of running bus-powered devices using the 12VDC supplied by the port on the host system, while the 4-pin ended ones are data only. If you use a 6-pin to 4-pin cable, the bus power is ignored. A Sony DV camera w/iLink works great with a G4 or iMac w/FireWire, BTW.
Hope this clears some things up,
Marc
I ask it again: Can you read? (Score:2)
If your sysadmins aren't draftees from the desktop helpdesk, then NT can indeed be run well and crash much less than NT run by recycled end-users.
As for the tired old "can't sue Linux" BS, go read your commercial license agreement. You can't sue MS or Sun or HP or any other vendor if you lose your data. Maybe you can sue a VAR but you can't sue the big guys, they have protected themeselves from product liability suits in their product licenses.
What's the matter, can't you read?
> That, in a nutshell, is why Linux is not making headway into the corporate market.
My God it amazes me how out of touch some people are!
-M
Re:Wrong (Score:1)
Q: If everyone decides that the word "gay" means homosexual, but you refuse to accept it, and continue to believe it only means "happy" is it did originally, are you wrong?
A: Yes. Language is a non-static, evolving entity. Words mean what society decides they mean. If Century/Millennium means "00", then that's what they mean. Note that there is nothing wrong with this; definitions generally change because they become more useful. In this case, "00" is a more useful definition, and thus it has been adopted.
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Re: The Gregorian calendar 3rd Millennium=1/1/2001 (Score:1)
it would obviously have to be this century, because the end of the 19th century was celebrated on dec 31st of the year 1900. 1901 was therefore officially recognized as the beginning of the 20th century. of course now that we've decided that the 20th century gets the shaft, we have to pick which decade of the 20th century only has 9 years....
Re:Not worth is when "average" house cost $800,000 (Score:1)
It's a good way get experience. Once I've done that I would like to move to somewhere like Nevada (while retaining roughly the same salary).
I also have to pay off my student loan so raw $ is important for that.
BTW I hear 2/3 neighbor's toilets flushing.
Re:I ask it again: Can you read? (Score:2)
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"You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."
Re:startups (Score:1)
This reminds me of the story about the retired engineer:
Re:startups (Score:2)
Well, I certainly can't say whether joining a hot Silicon Valley start up and working 16 hours a day for stock options is worth it. I think that really depends on what you want in life. What I can say is that starting one's own company in a place that costs less to live in (Massachusetts), and being one's own boss (and still working 16 hour days) is way worth it. I probably will never be a paper millionaire, but I will have spent time trying to build my own vision. Can't beat that.
Java has entered a blind spot... (Score:1)
Java is very good for some things and its use is exploding in those areas. The reason most people seem to think it has failed is that these areas fall into an end user blind spot. People could see applets (and later the lack thereof), but the areas where Java is now primarily being used are not nearly as visible to your average person. Java is now being used for middleware. It lives on the server side these days in the form of servlets and beans. Just because you don't see it does not mean it is not there. The number of Java programmers and the use of Java in development is swiftly growing.
As for Jini, it is still relatively new and its fate has yet to be determined. For my part I suspect it will catch on, but not in its incarnation as an interface to hardware devices (despite the hype, this is not its only use).
Ultimately I think it would be far more accurate to say that Sun was a flop this year. The technology they created is prospering, the companies standing in the industry is not.
As an aside, if you are a Java programmer and are looking for work (in NYC), the company I work for is now hiring. If you're interested send me a resume at: jkeck@finansys.com
Re:startups and Netslaves (Score:1)
I am in the middle of getting my BS (a little over it I think) in CS (that little play on acronyms was not intentional) and work for a foriegn owned yet independent american company (I am a CS major so I have no real idea what that means but I am sure it has something to do with taxes) and I make a damn good salary as a UN*X and Linux admin. I am not uncommon (despite what I try to tell myself), I started out in electronics, got into UN*X and here I am. Granted, I spent some time doing some really low paying work, but I have never worked at any place for less than 2 years, I have always paid the bills and I have always liked my job. If one person can do it (especially a joe like me) anyone can do it.
Do I think busting my balls in SV is worth it? NO. I would prefer to settle into a scenario - gee exactly like the one I have now - where I do support as an admin and spend spare time working cool UN*X stuff I like. Makes more sense to someone like me. As time goes on I will most likely examine changing fields, but always managing to get job A that you like so you can twiddle your thumbs looking for job B is very important. I think that SV is far too volatile for most people and agree that talent is being both exploited and wasted (to a degree) in the green rush.
Re:What sites are generated fully with Java?? (Score:1)
Re:Do Slashdot posters ever read the stories? (Score:1)
It's December, now. That is, two months AFTER October...
Re:Lets not forget about games (Score:1)
If you're looking for innovation in gaming, you might try Bungie. [bungie.com] They're the guys who wrote Myth and Myth II, which basically did something nobody's done before. Ditto for their upcoming projects, Oni [bungie.com] and Halo [bungie.com]. Cool things there, you might want to check them out and see if they fit your profile of a "new" game.
Re: Netslaves (Score:3)
Really, come on, what is this drivel? Workers are exploited, period. Most "geeks", as you call them (and by which I suppose you to mean young introverted males (becuase it is mostly guys, isn't it?) with an interest in technology, particularly computers, bordering on the obssessive) work in well-paid hi-tech jobs, and are a hell of a lot better of than, say, a Uranium miner in South Africa or a textile worker in the Philipines. Yes, they are exploited; of course they are; but have a bit of perspective.
Re:What kills me ... (Score:1)
Well, I certainly very often disagree with him, and there are times when he is just plain wrong or misinformed, but the truth is, that many people "out there" listen to him, and I get the impression that many people agree with him. So, knowing what he has to say, and getting a feeling for what people are thinking is worth it. Does it make a big difference that /. is giving him airtime? I think it's OK. Besides, I'm not sure there is such a thing as an intelligent anti-open source antagonist.
Re:What sites are generated fully with Java?? (Score:2)
Dynamo is just an app server, so you can say that the database and the web server is not Java. However, all page generation is done by the product using JavaBeans and JSP. A partial list of their customers is linked above, and it includes BMG, AT&T Customer Service, JCrew, and Sony Online Entertainment.
This is just one product that allows Java to be used for page generation -- take a look around, and you'll find that there are literally dozens. And before you say you meant a custom solution utilizing Java, no major company that I know of wants to build their own app server -- the investment would be huge with no real benefit. Yes, Yahoo and eBay do use custom solutions, but eBay is having all kinds of problems and many of Yahoo's services are now delivered via packaged solutions.
where to discuss? (Score:1)
On Slashdot?
On Zdnet?
I guess it all just ends up on who you want your audience to be (or what your audience's OS is..)
nouveau riche and lack of taste (Score:1)
although it must be also admitted that an education focused purely into high tech might find such nicities as "The Lays of Ancient Rome" as unimportant, or ignorantly read into it a suggestive title where nothing of the sort exists.
Cluelessness has many guises, and it is probably a wise person who knows their blind spots.
FireWire?! (Score:2)
That's not the point. FireWire is a high-speed high-bandwidth data transfer technology and it's doing quite well exactly where it was originally aimed: digital content capture/creation. There's a reason the iMacDV has FireWire: content users demanded it. I'm less clear on why they're using iMacs, but what the hey, I'm sure they know what they need better than I do. He's not slamming USB for the time it took to take off, and it's much more consumer oriented and had a much greater push for adoption from MS. Bit of a double standard, that.
Too Plug-n-Play For Linux? (Score:1)
No "real" Linux machine could ever suffer the indignity of such a device!
Re:startups (Score:3)
It's all about what you value most - enjoying your time as it happens, or throwing away a period of your life in hopes that a later era will be much different.
Re:nouveau riche and lack of taste (Score:1)
Now now, you shouldn't stereotype high tech educations. I recently came out of a 4-year (*laugh*) university with an engineering degree, and one of the requirements for the degree was a full year of humanities. I spent mine on classical literature.
Re:FireWire?! (Score:2)
Dvorak is dogging Firewire because Intel is pushing that USB 2.0, and we all know that big D doesn't want to torque off Chipzilla.
Now that we are talking about Firewire, I want to remind everyone that Linus said about the same thing a few monthes back. I don't want to get flamed, but that seems like a bad case of Not Intented Here. Linux needs to lead the way and jump on the IEE 1394 bandwagon.
Firewire Hard Drives...like the VSTs are simply dreamy.
lamz is right, Dvorak needs to give credit where it's due. The iMac is the machine that gave USB life. It was a dead technology until August of 1998.
Re:startups (Score:5)
If I'm really into what I'm doing, it might be worth it. But I see so many people (and many of my friends) working their ass off for what could happen "if we go public and people like us." If they become new paper millionaires, I suppose its worth it, but it seems like a lot of time wasted they could be using to live/enjoy life.
I work for a company that may or may not go public one day, but its been around for 20 some years. Its not a high glamor job, but I use cool technology, I work about 40-45 hours a week, I get paid well enough to get the toys I need. IMHO, this is more worth it. I'm enjoying my life NOW instead of hoping I enjoy it a few years down the line. I could die in a car accident tomorrow, then where would I be?
I may be hedonistic here, but carpe diem is pretty much what I live. Life's too short to waste it on something that might not pay off. Maybe this attitude will never make me rich monetarily, but I lead a full life and I'm a happy man.
And I've got all this wisdom at 24....wonder what the next 80 years will teach me.
Re:FireWire?! On almost every cool DV camcorder (Score:1)
Programmer efficiency (Score:1)
What more important for myself and my customers is program productivity. As an illustration:
Hello world in Java:
import java.io.*;
import java.util.*;
import javax.servlet.*;
import javax.servlet.http.*;
public class HelloWorld extends HttpServlet {
public void doGet (
HttpServletRequest request,
HttpServletResponse response )
throws ServletException, IOException {
response.setContentType ( "text/html" );
PrintWriter out = response.getWriter ();
out.println ( "Hello World\n" +
"Hello World!" );
out.close ();
}
}
Hello world in Perl
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
print "Hello World\n";
print "Hello World!";
In practice I use html templates with Perl such as:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
$title = "Hello World";
$body_str = "Hello World!";
process_template("hello_world_blue.html");
where the function process_template reads in the argument file and replaces the embedded strings "$title$" and "$body_str$" with the values of the variables. This way the code is seperate from the presentation and a single code base can be used to call several different sets of templates and provide a different look and feel per template set.
Apple doesn't own Time. (Score:2)
Apple is owned by Apple Computers Inc. Steve Jobs has way closer ties to Disney through Pixar than he does Time-Warner.
Re:Dvorak is just...bad (Score:2)
Just because he's not pro-linux is not a good enough reason to say he knows nothing...
Like it matters... (Score:1)
Sure. Every day is the beginning of a new millenium. Come to think of it, every day is the end of one too. Ain't that a bitch?
However, if you say that Jan 1, 2000 is the beginning of the 3rd millenium since Jan 1, 1 AD, then you are in fact wrong.
More importantly, everyone damn well knows it. It been in the press and the news so much that everyone understands it. It's a simple concept.
Even more importantly, it's not going to interfere with the party. I'm not celebrating a new millenium, I'm gonna be there for the party, man... Time to kick back and drink myself stupid. I sure won't let the fact that the next millenium is a year later screw up my buzz, that's for sure.
Oh, and the 1997 thing: Who cares? The majority of the world doesn't believe in Christ, so piss off already.
Just my $2E-2...
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I nominate this inanimate carbon rod! (Score:2)
According to Dvorak, "Linux: Lots of hype. Lots of hope" ...of I see. So this desktop that I'm typing this message in here doesn't exist? This GNOME desktop I configured is all vaporware? Who that's impressive. I must be running some kind of background process that makes me think I'm connected to the Internet all day since this Linux stuff I thought I was using really doesn't exist. Wow I'm suprised.
Bill Gates should be Time's Person of the Year? Well, yeah if you believe Microsoft's PR machine that mascot Bill has anything to do with what goes on at Microsoft. You may as well nominate this inanimate carbon rod for being repsonsible for nuclear power.
Re:Lots of talk.... (Score:2)
My question: Do you run Debian, RedHat, Slackware or Suse (and others), or do we still run Linux? If M$ wants a piece of the pie in the future: do we still accept it as Linux?
Answer: too many distributions?
Um. (Score:1)
You mean like the playstation two, or my high-end Dell? Or maybe something like a computer belonging to someone who wants really neato toys? SCSI didn't die either, and that wasn't for lack of competition. Good lord, man, how long do you need to work in an industry to learn that standards that cost an end-user more than a buck fifty american don't spring up overnight?
BTW, that that camcorder supports FireWire is one of my main reasons for considering buying it. If I can use a FireWire hard drive and camcorder to connect to my PlayStation, which has more than enough graphic horsepower to do realtime video editing, I think I might just be a fairly happy man. 'Specially since I can then just pump it out through S-Video to my S-Video capable VCR, and tape something right cleanly.
This, of course, after I have enough money to buy myself a disposable razor, but that's another story.
Re:say what? (Score:1)
I'm on Dvorak's side on this one. There have to be a dozen guys in the computer arena that are more deserving of man of the year status than Bezos is and Gates and Jobs are two of them.
There is nothing unique about Amazon, it just has better PR than other e-commerce companies. There are other e-commerce companies out there that are as old as Amazon, even if they are not as big. Note that I didn't say successful. Amazon has yet to turn a profit, so it can't really be considered successful. Bezos has also done his part to harm e-commerce by jumping on the stupid patent, stupid lawsuit [slashdot.org] bandwagon.
Like him or not, Gates managed to turn an operating system into a deadly weapon. This is real influence, even if it is bad. The DoJ lawsuit against Microsoft alone could potentially affect the way we use computers for years to come. (If so, would this make Judge Jackson a man of the year candidate?).
Jobs took a company that had spent a decade bent on committing corporate suicide and made it stop slashing its wrists long enough to start putting out fast, useful computers.
Im confused?!? (Score:1)
mitemouse
Dvorak friggin' annoys me. (Score:1)
Ohwell.
- A.P.
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"One World, one Web, one Program" - Microsoft promotional ad
Do Slashdot editors ever _read_ the stories? (Score:3)
Dvorak didn't say that Windows CE was a flop, he said that Windows CE handheld computers were a flop. That's a huge difference, as anyone who read the Slashdot article "386 Based Linux Powered Telephone" [slashdot.org] can tell you. You know, the one where Slashdot told us of this wonderful phone that supposedly ran Linux, when everyone who actually looked at the company's site could see that it ran Windows CE and that Linux wasn't even mentioned. (Needless to say, another black eye for Slashdot reporting.)
But hey, don't let simple fact-checking and journalistic integrity get in the way of your anti-Microsoft zealotry, right?
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Re:startups (Score:1)
Dvorak vs. Qwerty (Score:1)
Re:FireWire?! (Score:1)
Dvorak... (Score:1)
Before you respond, "Takes one to know one," I suggest you read my sig line. :-)
Zontar The Mindless,
Re:Java truly speeds up development (Score:1)
Then let an unbiased opinion draw conclusions.
In other words don't make empty claims...
Re:nouveau riche and lack of taste (Score:1)
but seriously, most high school grads would only see the suggestive interpretation, and make light of it, instead of understanding one of the better bits of writing in the english language.
and then there are the in-duh-viduals in management or sales.
Re:Lots of talk.... (Score:3)
I guess JCD's just another person who hasn't heard of linux until all the IPO's...
BTW: My favorite talkback comment:
Name: Bob Carmody
Location: Washington DC
Occupation:
Linux is in the wrong list! Doesn't linux feel like DOS except with even longer more obscure switches? And it's Unix all over again. Dvorak noted that himself in a column earlier this year.
Desqview for Linux is right around the corner, I can feel it.
It's hard enough to get an OS out the door of Microsoft or Apple with a team in one town. How on earth can anything get done with the entire world working on a project?
This is just too ludicrous to comment on right now.
Apparently Sony Doesn't Make Computers (Score:1)
Compaq had it on their machines as an option in summer of '98, if I recall correctly. Sony has it standard on the Vaio line, and last time I checked Compaq and Sony didn't make Macs.
This is just another example of Dvorak bashing something because of platform prejuidce and letting the facts fend for themselves. I am surprised he didn't say USB2 is one of the greatest successes of the past 1,000 years.
Science is missing (Score:3)
What about the first realization of a quantum computer (here) [stanford.edu]? Or IBM's advances in chip technology? Or any of a number of similar advances that are almost certainly important for the future direction of technology?
For that matter, I think leaving out the continued successful rise and development of cellular phones and the like is quite a mistake. When he puts network PCs and ubiquitous computing on the 'flop' list, he misses the most successful of the network ed appliances, the cell phone. The important future of cell phones (which I already had some good ideas about) was made utterly clear to me when, on Christmas this year, I ordered a book from Amazon on my new Sanyo-4000 using the mini-browser on the phone. Took about 4 minutes (including searching for a few things), and was amazingly easy.
Cheers,
David Andre
Re:Lets not forget about games (Score:1)
Re:Lots of talk.... (Score:2)
Coincidentally, he's also right. Don't take it as a slam on linux, it's not. What it is is a very short way of saying that linux doesn't have a GUI comparable to windows, that it is still too abrasive to neophyte computer users. I'll also take a personal stab at what linux needs - a decent filesystem. ext2 is slow on file deletions, and when mounted in it's default async mode can cause massive filesystem damage if the system crashes. This is not exactly clearly documented anywhere.
So he's right - there is lots of talk and lots of hype - just look at ZDNet and the mainstream press. Witness the VA Linux and Redhat IPOs. There's lots of hope too - Enlightenment and Gnome / KDE desktops are rapidly evolving. ReiserFS, Ext3, and SGI's fs (whose name escapes me at the moment) are all very fast filesystems.
Re:Dvorak is just...bad (Score:2)
The flop... (Score:2)
What kills me ... (Score:3)
If slashdot feels the need to have an anti-opensource antagonist, they should at least find an intelligent one to link to (if there is such a thing). The last thing an open-source forum should be doing is encouraging this sort of vapid tripe by increasing its undeserved readership even further by giving it broader exposure.
Re:Java and Jini (Score:3)
I think not.
They're just off the hypesters radar-screen.
First of all, a lot of things that people used java for were just plain stupid. The problem is like a lot of "hot" technologies, people use them because they're hot, not because they accomplish anything. A lot of web sites are entirely composed of slow loading fluff. The early fervor days were horrible -- people loading a half dozen animated gif and ticker tape applets per page over a 14.4KBaud modem link -- no wonder people hate java! And these stupid applications are better done these days with javascript and animated gifs.
But, there are terrific applications for applets, so long as you are reasonable about keeping them slim. My favorite is the VNC (the open source remote control utility); you may not know it, but VNC servers also respond to http requests, returning an HTML page with a complete java VNC client (pretty fast load time for something so cool, too). I added this to the open source freethreads discussion forum and voila! shared whiteboard. I put another java applet and voila -- a private chat room. Both these pages load very quickly at 56K.
Applets for the Internet drive by customer will make a comeback, as high bandwidth consumer connections become more common.
Re:Nope -- exactly on time. You are wrong. (Score:2)
Can't we celebrate new year 2001, though -- when all this y2k problem nonsense is ovre with?
Ta.
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Yahoo? Why not ZDNN? (Score:2)
Do Slashdot posters ever read the stories? (Score:3)
The new, yet-to-be-released 486 uberphone runs WinCE
The phone they do produce, based on a 386, runs Linux.
Dvorak's tone is antiMicrosoft, too. (Score:2)
4. Microsoft Windows CE hand-held computers. When will Microsoft and its friends learn that building a lot of little computers around a portable OS that results in incompatibility from machine to machine for various reasons is not the road to success?
Sounds pretty anti-Microsoft to me. Hemos's take on this statement seems pretty accurate to me.
The fact is that Microsoft CE is not a good operating system for handheld devices. While the hardware also has problems (like short battery life because most WinCE machines, IMHO, try to do too much (256 Colors, MP3 playing, etc.)), the Windows GUI is just completely out of place in a handheld.
Re: Netslaves (Score:2)
The solution is... uh, don't do it. Revolt against what? Are they chaining you to your desk? It's not as if it isn't a pro-worker environment right now.
I can just see you during the Great Depression, with your sign out saying, "Hey! I just got out of college! Where's my $70K/year job? Where are my stock options? I thought I was supposed to be a millionaire in my twenties!"
This perspective brought to you by the Clue Stick. Workers today are so incredibly spoiled.
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The real winners of 1999 (Score:2)
Re:FireWire?! (Score:2)
USB ... had a much greater push for adoption from MS.
Don't forget to give credit where credit is due. How many USB peripherals exist because the iMac was designed with USB as it's only I/O port? Answer: However many iMac coloured USB peripherals you can count on the store shelf.
Also, I think it's funny that Dvorak's main problem with FireWire is that it only appears on Macs, iMacs, PowerBooks and CamCorders. That's really not a problem for owners of those devices! How can great equipment owned by other people be perceived as a downside for him? This sort of thinking points to why people like to dis Linux--it makes their own system look bad. And isn't his real problem with FireWire the lack of implementation by companies that he supports? Shouldn't he be chastizing Dell/HP/etc for not including great tech like FireWire?
Mike van Lammeren
Re: Netslaves (Score:2)
Dvorak has some good points here (Score:4)
That said, I'm right with him on his first four picks for the big events (Linux may be proven to us, but most of the world seems to see it as "the latest Microsoft challenger", and Apple's return from the grave helps ensure that there will always be a "Pepsi" to Microsoft's Coke - regardless of Linux's future), but I don't think
No, I think number 5 should have been called "cutting the cord". The explosion of cellular phones, laptop computers, beepers, and Palm handhelds (and the coming 2-way pager boom) has been enormous this past year - cell phones and Palms are everywhere and people have accepted them as a normal part of society. Have any of you Palm people noticed that people don't look at you funny any more when you whip a Palm III out in the middle of a meeting and start taking notes? They're just part of the landscape now, along with the requisite micro-phone from Nokia, Motorola, or Qualcomm. Cellular, and digital/PCS cellular in particular, finally has the size, battery life, and pricing to be everywhere. So much so that the backlash has already started. The coming "no cell phone" railroad cars and restaurants are indicating that cellular is no longer for the so-called "elite" but for everyone.
As for the flops list - the jury's still out on Firewire. I think 2000 will be the "make or break" year for the technology, at least in the mass-market consumer end of the business. But the new digital camcorders are so cool and so cheap that I think Firewire will be just fine. But it's a niche technology until Intel puts it into PC chipsets. Firewire as standard on Macs, Sonys, and a few other small brands (PC-wise) just isn't enough.
Java is rapidly becoming "just another language", mainly because of Sun's incompetent stewardship. Soon it'll be thought of as "C++ with garbage collection" unless Sun loosens up the death grip. Stick a fork in Larry Ellison - he's done and doesn't know it yet. Microsoft's going to kill him on the low end and IBM will kill him on the high-end. CE was a dead man walking when it first shipped - as son as it became clear that a CE device would have the battery life of a bad laptop. Give up a hard drive for that? I don't think so. The fundamental crappiness of the Windows interface in a handleld form factor just made it worse.
And as for DIVX? I've forgotten it already. Although now that DVD's won, they're trying to get the horse back in the barn...
- -Josh Turiel
Re: Firewire on the Mac is sweet (Score:2)
Sony makes iLink/Firewire CDRW drives, which would probably be nice because as a rule of thumb they say to keep your source drive and your CDRW on separate chains. There's other stuff like printers and speakers that use Firewire, so it's not all just video cameras... although I must say that video editing with Firewire and MiniDV is sweet too.
Re:Apparently Sony Doesn't Make Computers (Score:2)
Re:Dvorak is just...bad (Score:2)
I suppose this posting is flame bait, but this comment has already been moderated UP so I felt like defending Dvorak...
Do you have any objective facts to back up your statement? Granted, Dvorak is an opinionated bastard who has been wrong a lot, but he's also one of the first to admit that. I've been reading his columns on and off for years, and one thing I've noticed is that he's a guy who has a sense of everything that's going on around him. He doesn't want to tell you what everyone else is saying, he wants to put himself on the line and say what he thinks -- isn't that the kind of attitude that Slashdot normally defends or am I missing something?
Granted, Dvorak is an inflammatory, highly opinionated, and highly visible target, but" a media fraud who doesn't know a thing"? Is Linux not full of hype right now? Is it not the current hope to knock down Microsoft? What is untrue there? He could have also said that it's a solid OS with great potential, but that's not his style. If you want to attack him, fine, but don't take the easy route of throwing assertions with no backing at him.
My two cents...
Re:Dvorak is just...bad (Score:2)
Actually, I think he did a good job of being well-rounded in this case, and was spot on with every item listed. Even rabid slashdotters shouldn't be upset with him: he trashed Microsoft twice, gave good mention to two underdogs (Linux and Apple), and spit on the grave of DIVX. Are you upset just because his comments about Linux we somewhat reserved? You shouldn't be; Linux is still getting to where it needs to be.
Re:What sites are generated fully with Java?? (Score:2)
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BluetoothCentral.com [bluetoothcentral.com]
A site for everything Bluetooth. Coming in January 2000.