People With University Degree Fear Death Less 473
An anonymous reader writes "People with a university degree fear death less than those at a lower literacy level. In addition, fear of death is more common among women than men, which affects their children's perception of death."
Grad studies (Score:5, Funny)
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Also, is "fear of death is most common among women than men" grammatically correct? Most/Than? Shouldn't it be "more than"? (I'm guessing that they have editors and this is technically correct, I'm just unfamiliar with it)
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Also, is "fear of death is most common among women than men" grammatically correct? Most/Than? Shouldn't it be "more than"? (I'm guessing that they have editors and this is technically correct, I'm just unfamiliar with it)
No it's not, yes it should, and you're unfamiliar with it because it's wrong. ;)
Note the tag line at the bottom of the article: "Provided by University of Granada." I suspect they had the article translated into English by a Spanish-speaker who learned English very well in school, but doesn't have a native speaker's grasp of idiom. My mother, an American who speaks German fluently enough to be mistaken for a native speaker and lived in Germany for several years, works as a translator in partnership with
Indeed... (Score:3)
It also trumps torture. [youtube.com]
Re:Grad studies (Score:4, Informative)
Nope, the school loan you took out will top the list and be the cause of which this article speaks. The realization that you've just enlisted into servitude that will belay retirement 10 years past life expectancy in order to pay off the privilege ,will be quite enough to make you even yearn for death.
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Compared to law school, death is a trivial matter.
Compared to dealing with lawyers, death is a trivial matter.
Dilbert (Score:5, Funny)
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But they fear typographical errors much more :-)
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The anonymous submitter obviously sent in that submission due to her worries about the subject.
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Film @ 11.
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That is why I switched to LaTeX. No more bad typography.
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There's more than one "fear of death" (Score:5, Interesting)
Fear of eventually dying and fear of dying young are quite different things, but both get named "fear of death". I read TFA, and it's not clear what fear they're talking about.
IMHO, it's silly to fear the former but good to have some fear of the latter.
Re:There's more than one "fear of death" (Score:5, Insightful)
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Maybe because I used to do a fair amount of extreme sports as a kid like skiing, mountain biking (a lot of that), doing stupid things with my dad's car etc that I eventually got a handle on dangerous situations.
Any person with "normal" brain chemistry will fear death, acceptance thou
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I don't fear death. I fear the pain of dying. I've been seriously injured several times, it's the pain that makes me fear it. Oddly enough my non-university graduate grandfather believed the same thing, he died quite painfully with cancer eating away his spine. He lived about 4 weeks from the time it was diagnosed to the time he died it progressed that quickly.
Maybe you got it wrong (Score:2)
and it was about fear of Death, you know, fear of THE Death. So the less educated could not look past the scythe and the bony construction, but more educated and wiser people see much more. Ok, it is a bit annoying that he uses all-caps, but he has shown compassion at a number of times and loves cats.
Re:There's more than one "fear of death" (Score:4, Insightful)
This is such baloney. It's not influencing beliefs, it's good 'ol human sentimentality. Which I value very highly. THIS IS WHAT MAKES US HUMAN. Think of everything you love, and hold dear. Now imagine your life without it. You are not on a horse, you are dead, in a blank void, as you clearly stated.
I have a 6 year old son. Tell me why I would not be scared of losing the chance to see him grow up?
And as an aside, please tell me how you managed to cognitively grasp the concept of thought if there was no thought itself.
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A open mind that seeks learning also sees a greater universe. In a universe of galaxies lasting billions of years it is hard to get really worried about one's insignificant monkey existence. You and every generation you can track in either direction are noting but the most insignificant blip imaginable.
Of course all life has value being a critter with a greater degree of choice (the greater degree of choice based upon greater understanding) does not deny any creatures with lessor choice lessor value, the
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I don't want to die, and nobody i've ever known isn't inherently shit scared of death.
I definitely don't want to die, but I'm not really "scared" of death. I would fight tooth and nail not to die, because I want to continue my life.
I have a 6 year old son. Tell me why I would not be scared of losing the chance to see him grow up?
Looking forward and imagining my daughter growing up without me is horrible and depressing. But I'm also aware that no matter how strongly I feel about it right now, I simply won't care after I'm dead for the very simple fact that *I* will not exist anymore. There'll be no "me" and therefore no way that I could care about anything, including my loved ones that
Death? (Score:2)
I think the University was worse than death anyway, pain goes away when you die, at the University the pain never went away...
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You say that, but we all know that Vicious kills you in the end, even if you can stagger down the hallway and shoot a finger gun at the camera.
Re:Death? (Score:4, Insightful)
Given current trends... (Score:2)
If we're talking about undergraduate degrees, and the average amount of debt involved, then yeah, if asked if I was afraid of dying right after graduation, I'd be like, "meh."
Whatever doesn't kill me . . . (Score:2)
Whatever doesn't kill me makes me stronger . . .
. . . unless it maims me.
The maiming sucks. I'd rather avoid it.
Reasoning? (Score:5, Interesting)
Death is inevitable. I don't fear taxes, and I don't fear death.
What I do fear, however, since I live in the United States where suicide and assisted suicide are illegal, is becoming almost completely nonfunctional due to sudden paralysis, stroke, etc. The fear is that if I were locked in and could only communicate one character an hour, they'd still keep me alive for as long as they could, even if I had to lay there awake but bored and paralyzed for 16 hours a day.
A distant second is dying a horrible slow death, perhaps by starvation.
Death itself, though, I don't really fear.
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> where suicide and assisted suicide are illegal,
True, but you could always drink or smoke yourself to death ... :/ Seems to me it is only the timeframe that people don't like -- quick and painless, or the long, slow, painful in agony.
Not sure what gives the the living to dictate the rights over my body and / or control how I wish to die ...
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Actually in Oregon and Washington at least assisted suicide it legal under certain circumstances. In Oregon 2 doctors have to certify that you probably have less than 6 months to live. Then you can get a prescription for a fatal dose of barbiturates that you must swallow yourself at a time of your choosing.
Re:Reasoning? (Score:5, Interesting)
It bothered me a great deal that the initiative passed on strength of sentimentalism and FUD where a lesser measure could have addressed the issue more appropriately. There was sparse evidence that the demand was for reasons other than depression and inadequate palliative care. And there was no requirement that the individual get declared as depression free from a psychiatrist or psychologist.
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No charges, I guess, but if you make an attempt, you'll be held until they think you've changed your mind. Then they'll let you go. It's not QUITE a law thing, it's more of a "If you want to kill yourself obviously you're defective and can't be charged with sharp pointies." thing
Marcus Aurelius (Score:5, Insightful)
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
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Re:Marcus Aurelius (Score:5, Informative)
Thanks for posting that, I have never heard that before, I came to the same conclusion many years ago and try to be a fair and decent person.
Last year I had a heart attack and as I was in the ambulance with the sirens and blue lights going I knew I might well die. I wasn't really afraid of dying but I did feel it was too soon I wanted to see the kids grown up, married and with children of their own.
I also am a huge fan of morphine, it doesn't so much stop pain as take away the fear of death. It gives you the calm to accept what will be will be. You don't fear for your own fate but feel for your loved ones and the upset they feel for you being so close to death. I also remember the priest coming round to see me and he asked me religion? I said not yet. I really don't feel like it is time for me.
The first year after my heart attack was tough, the statistics are frightening 30% of people who have a first heart attack die before reaching a hospital of the 70% left 50% will die within 6 to 8 years and in the first year you have a 25% chance of dying in the following years it drops to about 3% everybody has a chance of dying but its about 1.5% so now although my chances are raised I don't feel like its that much higher.
Year one was depressing I was constantly thinking about my health and didn't feel like I had a future.
Now I just want to get back on track and find a job and live a happy life doing something with somebody I love. I'm really grateful for my medical treatment and thanks to the irish health service I was treated for free and pay a nominal amount for my meds. Just hope there is someone who will take me on doing something.
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Some web sources seem to claim that quotation is entirely unsourced. However, from looking through Meditations, it seems to be at least partially sourced from Book 2, Number 11. At least the first few parts of the thought, i.e. living a good life, and the general format of inquiring on if there are gods, and they care about human affairs, etc. However, the quotation itself doesn't seem to follow the translations I found on the web very closely at all.
My conclusion is that the quotation seems to me to be
Fear of death is rational. It is not a flaw. (Score:2)
Death wouldn't be so bad if it didn't have to involve every memory you ever had being erased from existence. Written word and other recordings are completely inadequate to compensate for everything that is lost when a person dies. Just because death is currently inevitable does not make fear of it irrational - fear focuses awareness, which is perfectly appropriate when it involves everything you are in the world ceasing to be, lost to everyone.
That's one of the reasons I've always been fascinated by compu
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imagine building a computer as a kid and having it run a very very long program. it runs that program for 20, 30, 50, 80 years! its getting real close to some kind of conclusion or answer, too.
then, someone yanks the power out and you had no time to sync to disk. all your data and all those 80 years of accumulated processing is gone as the power supply runs to zero and your ram loses refresh.
it makes NO SENSE when you think of life this way. I don't see how your 'data' (life experience) is at all saved
Basis in reality? (Score:2)
How much of the fear of death measured in this study has a basis in reality?
What I mean is, if someone has reason to fear death (because of circumstance, or illness, etc.) then they probably have bigger things to worry about than getting college degrees?
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Well, circumstances are irrelevant. Like it or not, you will die. The only questions are when and how. As my dad always says: "You're not getting out of life alive, so you might as well enjoy yourself".
I have no fear of death, partly because it's inevitable, and partly because I can think of many cases where living can be much worth than death. The reason people fear death is because of the uncertainty over if there's an afterlife and what it's like - primarily, they're afraid that maybe those religious
Education == realization of ignorance (Score:2)
What is consciousness exactly? Matter organized in particular ways? Electric impulses? Information? Which of these really disappear when you kick the bucket? According to cosmology, even if you are sucked into a black hole someone could later observe every photon it emits as it evaporates due to quantum effects and reconstruct you atom by atom. For more practical solutions, you could upload important parts of your persona to cloud computing (write books, raise children, etc) and they will happily keep runni
Education good. (Score:5, Insightful)
Seems like there's a long list of benefits in education. Not only will you be less religulous, but you will also not fear death as much and hopefully get a more fullfilling job.
Educating women is even better, they have fewer children and a better health. And they tend to see education as something important for their children.
Have a look at Hans Roslings excellent talk about the miracle in Pakistan for what education has done, and especially education of women.
Long live education, which should be free and availible.
I hope they weren't being literal (Score:5, Funny)
From the article:
at present, the education system does not have any formal and systematic method to deal with death in class. If death were introduced in the education system, children would have a more real and intense approach to life, and many of the problems derived from the mourning process in the adulthood would be prevented.
I hope they mean the topic of death rather than death itself. I don't really want our teachers killing anybody as an object lesson.
Clearly! (Score:4, Funny)
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You're trying to trick me into giving away something. T'won't work.
Most likey... (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm wondering if part of it is depression (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Other fears? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Other fears? (Score:5, Insightful)
Saying that as somebody who spent a lot of time in the academic world:
Ignorance is not at all a privilege of people without a degree.
Re:Other fears? (Score:5, Insightful)
So yeah, academia ain't no intellectual utopia, but there is a difference...
Re:Other fears? (Score:5, Insightful)
People fear what they don't understand. Ignorant people fear more, and are manipulated by their fear en masse.
Getting a master's degree in physics did not give me any particular understanding of death. However, a central point of experimental sciences is coping with uncertainty. Understanding that the world is not black and white has a lot to do with your personality, and many people do not seem to be comfortable with themselves unless they feel absolutely certain about some things.
In my current work as a teacher, one general challenge is getting my students from "what is the right/wrong answer" to understanding and analyzing the questions in a deeper level. I feel like I must first undo the elementary school teachings, in order to teach scientific thinking.
This seems to reflect the fact that lower levels of education are about strict judgment and rote memorization. People at this level fear death, because they feel like they must have some kind of absolute knowledge in order to deal with it.
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Your point here about strict judgment was important to me personally. By relaxing my beliefs for or against things, and just leaving them in whatever state of ambiguity seemed to be justified by the available facts at the time, all kinds of possibilities opened up that weren't there otherwise.
Of course, too much of this sort of thing too early leads to a sloppiness or fuzziness in thought that's not very constructive either. And everyone is at a different place with that. As a teacher, I started off tryi
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No, getting a master's degree in physics did not give you any additional understanding or perspective. However, you being the type of person to get a master's degree puts you in a group that is more highly correlated with having that perspective...
I agree, I believe this is how it generally goes with studies that correlate something with education. However, I also believe education does have some effect. (Or what exactly am I doing as a teacher? :) In my personal experience, dealing with experimental data improved my ability to cope with uncertainty. It is an ability I already had, but it made me appreciate it more than before.
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Maybe belief in the supernatural correlates well with fear of death.
Maybe if you're shit-scared of death all the time you find refuge in faith.
Me, I have a university degree and an IQ in the genius range (I don't think I'm a genius). Count me as someone that is educated, reasonably intelligent and scared of death. Isn't fear of death natural? I mean, I don't want to imagine a world without me, I won't be there. And that's leaving out the part in which you actually die, which isn't going to be any fun either
Re:Odd. (Score:5, Insightful)
If I believed that there was a good chance that after I died I would be thrown into a lake of fire and otherwise punished for the rest of eternity, you can bet your sorry ass that I would be scared shitless of dying. Yes yes if you're good you get to go to heaven, but what if you accidentally committed a mortal sin without realizing it or something? After all, if you read the Bible, God is nothing if not capricious; how can you know that when He said "No mixed fabrics!", He didn't really mean it? What if you really are supposed to believe in the Miracle of Transubstantiation, reality be damned? It's just so uncertain.
Fortunately there's no hell, so there's no worries on that front. Honestly, I can't for the life of me see why theists think that religion brings peace and comfort. What is any amount of Earthly reassurance, in the face of the threat of infinite torture? (take that, Pascal!)
Re:Odd. (Score:5, Funny)
Honestly, I can't for the life of me see why theists think that religion brings peace and comfort
Religion brings money and political power. If you can't derive peace and comfort from those, there's no hope for you!
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Of course, if you're an atheist, you could argue that it's not an immoral decision to *pretend* to be religious, for the perks. In some countries the "perks" include staying alive.
Re:Odd. (Score:5, Funny)
It's a lot easier in the pulpit than it is in the pews.
Hell, you just have to pass around a plate and people put their hard-earned money on it. As a former altar boy I was fascinated by the collection. In my church, they had guys come down the aisle with these baskets with long handles, because they were afraid to pass a plate and tempt the believers with actually handling a dishful of money. It seemed like a great racket, and I may have gone into the church business, until I learned that the Priests got zero pussy. I remember asking my older brother what kind sex Father Moran was getting, and when he answered "None", I thought he said "Nun" and figured he was banging Sister Margaret Mary. Well, Sister Margaret Mary was a dead ringer for Dick Cheney, so I figured maybe there were better rackets to make an easy buck. That's when I decided to become an English major. Well, it was a long while before I started making any real money, and by then I had to join another kind of priesthood called "Academia", but I got to bang a lot of goth chicks (or what would be called goth today), who looked a whole lot better than Sister Mary Margaret. By the way, if you're college age and you're staying away from the goth chicks because you think they'd be no fun in the sack, don't be a dope. The pale makeup and dour expression both come off when they get a few drinks in them and they turn into more fun than Chucky Cheese on weed.
Anyway, what were we talking about? Oh yeah. Religion. Fuck them. And if you're an altar boy wondering what kind of sex your priest gets, stop wondering right now and run away because it's a trap!
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if you're an altar boy wondering what kind of sex your priest gets, stop wondering right now and run away because it's a trap!
Please never mention sex in the same sentence as "it's a trap!" again - horrifying mental images result!
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If that happens, the guy on the other side created a universe, of which something as insanely complicated as a human is one trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a percent. The guy built the moon and is way better at physics than Steven Hawking, so it's not like you're dealing with a guy that lacks either brains or brawn. Plus if the lake of fire is actually on the moon, you're pretty much fucked on that escape part. So best of luck, assuming you weren't the rare total douche who deserves a lake
Re:Odd. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Odd. (Score:4, Informative)
There was no "God vs Devil" death-match as this thread suggests. My understanding was that God created "everything", both good and evil. It never was a matter of who would win, it was simply that good could not exist without evil.
The whole thing with Lucifer was about trying to get the other angels to follow "him" instead of God, not about kicking God's butt, which even he had the sense to know could not happen.
As I said, I'm certainly no Jesus freak (I tend to think Bill Maher has it about right), but folks, at least get the story straight.
Re:Odd. (Score:5, Informative)
Good needs Evil (Score:3)
This is just a corollary of humans apparent inability to understand abstract concepts they cannot readily define. Humans define things with boundaries. Heck by the very meaning of "define" it is to explain by limitation, the reduction to the point of understanding. In fact that is why we have arguments that make no sense with absolutes, as while we may have created an abstract concept of absolute values (never, forever, infinity, largest, smallest, etc...) humans have trouble using them logically. This is "
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Read Sympathy for the Devil, by Holly Lisle (Score:3)
Read a fascinating (and funny) book called "Sympathy for the Devil" by Holly Lisle. It's available for free from the Baen Books Free Library. (baen.com) (Baen is a large SF publisher specializing in fantasy and military SF, not a religious books place, so fear not that I'm trying to convert you...) I believe Holly Lisle is a Fantasy author, although I have not read her other work.
In the book a young nurse asks the very same question of God after a rough day at work and offers up her very soul to stop it
Re:Odd. (Score:5, Insightful)
Heaven is a terribly boring place, Hell is suffering, I would rather take another chance at life and Re-incarnate, of course it would be nice to retain ALL my memories of the past life so I could learn from experience and not make the same mistakes twice.
The Taco Bell Syndrome (Score:3)
I was driving around one day and found myself hungry and wanting something to eat and I thought to myself, "Taco Bell! I haven't eaten at a Taco Bell in years!" I drove to the nearest Taco Bell and got a taco, a tostada, and an Enchirito(tm), my old favorite. Man, was I disappointed. "That's why I never eat at Taco Bell!"
So a couple years later I'm driving and thinking how I'm kinda' hungry and I see a Taco Bell. "Taco Bell! I haven't eaten there in years!" I go in and order up my favorite meal and e
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If I believed that there was a good chance that after I died I would be thrown into a lake of fire and otherwise punished for the rest of eternity, you can bet your sorry ass that I would be scared shitless of dying. Yes yes if you're good you get to go to heaven, but what if you accidentally committed a mortal sin without realizing it or something? After all, if you read the Bible, God is nothing if not capricious; how can you know that when He said "No mixed fabrics!", He didn't really mean it? What if you really are supposed to believe in the Miracle of Transubstantiation, reality be damned? It's just so uncertain.
For those who believe in it, it's not uncertain at all. I've never met anyone who believed in the literal existence of Hell who wasn't absolutely 100% sure he wasn't going there. It's all those icky ... other ... people who are going to burn in eternal torment, while the good and virtuous spend a blissful afterlife with the Lord.
And yet, strangely, most of these folks try just as hard to avoid death as the rest of us do.
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Honestly, I can't for the life of me see why theists think that religion brings peace and comfort. What is any amount of Earthly reassurance, in the face of the threat of infinite torture?
I don't like music. I listened to some once, and it didn't appeal to me, so I can't see how anybody would actually enjoy listening to music of any kind. ;-)
The fire and brimstone business is symptomatic of the kind of thinking that produces zero tolerance policies. Can't think of what to do about students using drugs, so lets get something really harsh policies on paper. I don't have much faith, so I'd better make the little I have go as far as possible by making it harsh as possible. Since I'm afraid of
Re:Odd. (Score:4, Funny)
I think there is a part of the Bible that says the only unforgivable sin, the only thing that can keep you from going to heaven, is the complete and absolute rejection of God. However, since God is infinite and unknowable you can't really reject him completely. You can reject the parts you know about, but not the parts you don't know about. You might not even want to reject those parts if you did know about them. Ergo, no one goes to hell.
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B) I *am* Jewish, and "Le-Chaim" means "To Life" if you approximate it to modern Hebrew. If you look at the etymology of it, and at the purpose of the phrase, it becomes more complicated, and (arguably) a question of opinion.
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I'm wondering exactly how they posed the question--because I'm not scared of death in the slightest, but I'm scared as fuck of dying. I have a feeling that won't be pleasant unless I'm very lucky.
That said, regardless of how I get there I'd pick consciousness over oblivion any day.
Re:Odd. (Score:4, Insightful)
"Isn't fear of death natural?"
The fear of _dying_ perhaps, death itself feels like it felt before you were born.
That wasn't so bad, wasn't it?
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I would decouple the fear of death from the belief in the supernatural. Philosophically I am interested in the supernatural even if I am perfectly fine with the idea of not existing after my biological death (if my predecessors had been immortal there would have been no resources for me to exist so I can't possibly complain can I). It's a matter of getting to the truth, not to find some comfort. And I think many people who were later converted to a religion lived in harsh realities where death was so common
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And that's leaving out the part in which you actually die, which isn't going to be any fun either.
Have you ever considered the possibility of being shot in bed at age 90 by a jealous husband?
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Exactly the opposite.
If you believe in after life, you'd probably expect "they" will settle the score once you die, and who isn't a "sinner"?
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Once again, timothy can't put down the paint thinner long enough to check his submission - look at the very first sentence. "... lower literacy leve." See what you did wrong there, timothy? But no, he manages to embarrass himself once again.
Go and get yourself cleaned up, timothy, and try again.
Re:Odd. (Score:4, Funny)
Just wait til you graduate from "I can't even tell anymore whether I'm trolling at any given time."
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Oh what utter rot.
Have any proof to back up your unfounded assertions that having a degree makes you more conformist?
Philosophy iss interesting, sometimes, but an awful lot of it is just mental masturbation.
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You don't hang out with a lot of people who either dropped out of high school or who are downright proud of managing to force their way through high school, do you?
I'd say that if anything my experience has shown me that while there are outliers who go against the norm overall people with less education tend to be a lot more conformist, a lot more likely to listen to authorities (that's not to say they won't be loudly and irrationally opposed to authorities they dislike, just that from what I've seen they t
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Wait, it's nonconformist to support one of the two dominant political trends in the most powerful country in the world? Lolwhut.
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Academics are a very small subset of people with degrees. And I'm not quite sure why clamouring for Kodos rather than Kang makes you a social revolutionary, but arguing here that a modern university degree tends to restrict the mind is like preaching atheism to the converted. Curiosity rarely survives formal education.
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Curiosity rarely survives formal education.
I think that depends a lot on the education and the teacher (as well as the student).
I've seen a lot of students basically get brainwashed by professors who demand perfect conformance to their personal quirks, for some reason this seems especially common among those studying to become teachers, social workers and economists, but I've also seen plenty of examples of professors that would rather pass a student that did something wrong but used their own mind while failing those who just repeat what's in the c
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Care to share a little summary? I'm not inclined to give Hitchens my money just on the recommendation of some random comment on Slashdot, but I've heard a lot of what Hitchens has to say about religion and he rarely gives anything other than the Abrahamic religions more than a few offhand remarks. What exactly is his critique of, for instance, mindfulness?
The more wealthy have the time to ponder (Score:3)
As a thought exercise, its un-nerving to say the least!
"I don't sleep. I hate those little slices of d
Re:The more wealthy have the time to ponder (Score:4, Insightful)
Everything becomes quiet...then silence. Peace at last.
That's incorrect -- death is not peaceful silence. Peaceful silence is something people have experienced and are familiar with. Death is your own non-existence, which by definition it is impossible for you to experience.
(You might get some moments of peaceful silence just before you die.... but that's not death, that's dying. And depending on how you die, you might not even get that)
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I can't imagine that not existing would be anything other than peaceful and silent. If it's loud and violent, I don't want to ever not exist.
Re:The more wealthy have the time to ponder (Score:5, Insightful)
Death is your own non-existence, which by definition it is impossible for you to experience.
I work on the method of thinking about what life was like (for me personally) before I was born. That's identical to death in my opinion. What I personally experienced in 1856 is identical to what I will personally experience in 2156.
Definitely a bit of weird thing to wrap your head around in terms of the "non-existence", but I feel it's a better comparison than the post you replied to talking about "peaceful silence".
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I am male and have a university degree. I fear death more than anyone I've never met.
Lemme guess -- football scholarship?
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Good job quoting out-of-context to support your contrarian post. I'm sure a good proportion of readers here won't have read the rest of that sentence in the article and won't know that you're trolling until they get to the third or fourth line in your post.
Re:What about the people in US Government? (Score:4, Insightful)
They fear the rule of law more than death and Government is their God.
Yes, and they also kidnap infants and drink their blood at their Satanic gatherings.
Can we stop with the hysteria yet? People in the US government are like people anywhere else -- some good, some bad, most just trying to pay their bills and keep out of trouble. Just because it's in the political interest of certain right-wing media organizations to regularly vilify them doesn't mean you have to mindlessly play along.
Re:What about the people in US Government? (Score:4)
People with security clearance fear the law and follow it ruthlessly.
Spoken like someone who has never been around anyone with a security clearance.
People with clearances are like everybody else except they try to not to talk about some parts of their work. You take two people working for the same organization with roughly the same background and responsibilities but one has a clearance and the other doesn't, you aren't going to find a significant variation except the one with the clearance is more reticent about talking about their job. Ain't nothing 'ruthless' about it.
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I'm sure this will make many atheists happy to here (despite the fact that this is coming from the University of Grenada...I mean, c'mon!?)
Actually, it is Granada. A few thousand miles and the Atlantic Ocean are between Grenada and Granada.
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the University of Grenada...I mean, c'mon!?
Granada, not Grenada. Only one letter, but it makes a rather large difference.
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Did you not get your degree? ;> According to this (half-baked) article, we're supposed to fear death less than others if we went to University.
Me, I'm looking forward to dying one day. Not yet; I've got lots of stuff to try to iron out, but heck, living forever in this pattern would be really tiresome after a while.
When you start to see the repeating cycles and you realize that NOTHING changes except your own emotional reactions to a repeating series of events, (people seem to revisit an event stream a