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The FBI Is Investigating Long Island Iced Tea's BlockChain Pivot (futurism.com) 48

Beverage firm Long Island Iced Tea -- now known as Long Blockchain -- is being investigated by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation for insider trading and securities fraud. From a report: Court records show that the FBI is investigating suspicious dealings that date back to December 2017 -- around the time when the beverage company changed its name and shifted its "primary corporate focus" from selling sweetened iced tea to blockchain. The company's stock shot up by almost 300 percent after it announced the pivot in late 2017. The FBI is focusing in on secretive phone message conversations about Long Island Iced Tea between two men, Oliver Lindsay and Gannon Giguiere, who were previously arrested for securities fraud related to a different company.
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The FBI Is Investigating Long Island Iced Tea's BlockChain Pivot

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  • Vaporous Woo (Score:4, Insightful)

    by sheramil ( 921315 ) on Friday July 26, 2019 @10:11AM (#58990758)

    How long will it be before they find that selling tea-based beverages is more profitable than trying to capitalize on pure woo?

    "The stock market loved the announcement."

    Of course they did, the morons.

    • Re:Vaporous Woo (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 26, 2019 @10:16AM (#58990788)

      "The stock market loved the announcement."

      Of course they did, the morons.

      Yep, the stock market loved it THEN. Probably not so much now.

      Before announcement - Dec 8, 2017 = $2.01/share
      After announcement - Dec 22, 2017 = $6.01/share
      Now = $0.34/share

      Hopefully their actual blockchain business dealings are working out better for them then it did the stock price, but since stock price generally reflects that sort of thing, I'm guess that's not the case either.

      • Re:Vaporous Woo (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Viol8 ( 599362 ) on Friday July 26, 2019 @10:26AM (#58990856) Homepage

        I've worked in a number of investment banks - most traders are barely educated dorks who if they weren't working the desk would be selling fake rolexes on a market stall. They see a buzzword , they press buy. They see their fellow sheep all suddenly selling because a phantom wolf was spotted, they press Sell.

      • Yep, the stock market loved it THEN. Probably not so much now.

        Before announcement - Dec 8, 2017 = $2.01/share After announcement - Dec 22, 2017 = $6.01/share Now = $0.34/share

        Long enough for a few people to get cured. Which is why they're being investigated.

    • Re:Vaporous Woo (Score:4, Interesting)

      by slack_justyb ( 862874 ) on Friday July 26, 2019 @10:27AM (#58990866)

      "The stock market loved the announcement."

      Of course they did, the morons.

      Well the US has pretty much converted retirement saving into something backed by the stock market. Be it 401(k), IRA, etc but far and wide the majority option is to invest your retirement on the current performance of the stock market. So it does beg the question of are we sure they're the morons or might it be us instead? And yes, before you go spouting off that you've got your retirement stuffed in your mattress, you and you alone does not negate the fact that the vast majority of America is bank rolling these morons to bring back high returns for their retirement.

      • by tomhath ( 637240 )

        So it does beg the question of are we sure they're the morons or might it be us instead?

        Investing and speculating are two entirely different things.

    • How long will it be before they find that selling tea-based beverages is more profitable than trying to capitalize on pure woo?

      Nobody has it worse than a publicly-traded soft drink manufacturer.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Ns. They're screwed otoh their were probably shenanigans when they were doing tea. Too bad as they were one of the first around here and way better than canned Lipton if a bit sweet for my tastes.

      Wouldn't surprise me at all if decades of shenanigans get uncovered, seen it with failing tech and ad companies, doing things like wiring money between many bank accounts which would, apparently, allow them the appearance of more money than they had at least for a while.... Amongst other things...

  • by cloud.pt ( 3412475 ) on Friday July 26, 2019 @10:27AM (#58990860)

    This is even more weird than that time Konami stopped making real games and focusing on Pachinko casinos' and Gym clubs' management

    • I'm sort of disappointed that Konami Sports Club [konami.com] doesn't tease that members who follow the strength training plan could be as ripped as Bill and Lance from Contra or Simon Belmont from Castlevania. The characters on the "My Fit Planner" look a lot more spindly than that. I'd bet they don't even have Dance Dance Revolution in the cardio theater.

  • by Hognoxious ( 631665 ) on Friday July 26, 2019 @05:48PM (#58994048) Homepage Journal

    investigated by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation

    The clue's in the name.
    If they were being tickled by the U.S. Federal Bureau of putting everything in the kitchen in the wrong place that would be news.

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