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Why So Many Japanese Children Refuse To Go To School (bbc.com) 199

In Japan, more and more children are refusing to go to school, a phenomenon called "futoko." As the numbers keep rising, people are asking if it's a reflection of the school system, rather than a problem with the pupils themselves. From a report: Ten-year-old Yuta Ito waited until the annual Golden Week holiday last spring to tell his parents how he was feeling -- on a family day out he confessed that he no longer wanted to go to school. For months he had been attending his primary school with great reluctance, often refusing to go at all. He was being bullied and kept fighting with his classmates. His parents then had three choices: get Yuta to attend school counselling in the hope things would improve, home-school him, or send him to a free school. They chose the last option. Now Yuta spends his school days doing whatever he wants -- and he's much happier.

Yuta is one of Japan's many futoko, defined by Japan's education ministry as children who don't go to school for more than 30 days, for reasons unrelated to health or finances. The term has been variously translated as absenteeism, truancy, school phobia or school refusal. Attitudes to futoko have changed over the decades. Until 1992 school refusal -- then called tokokyoshi, meaning resistance -- was considered a type of mental illness. But in 1997 the terminology changed to the more neutral futoko, meaning non-attendance. On 17 October, the government announced that absenteeism among elementary and junior high school students had hit a record high, with 164,528 children absent for 30 days or more during 2018, up from 144,031 in 2017.

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Why So Many Japanese Children Refuse To Go To School

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  • I'm glad Yuta is doing better, but not everyone has that option. How about stopping the bullying?

    • Bullying is national treasure, why do you have to be so culturally insenstive? /s

  • by shmlco ( 594907 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @11:58AM (#59550194) Homepage

    "Now Yuta spends his school days doing whatever he wants -- and he's much happier."

    Yeah. Now. Check in again in about 20 years.

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      "Now Yuta spends his school days doing whatever he wants -- and he's much happier."

      Yeah. Now. Check in again in about 20 years.

      The article does say that these free schools also don't convey on the students what I assume is the Japanese equivalent of a high school diploma.

    • by Calydor ( 739835 )

      We would need to find a time machine to check the alternate timeline in which he stayed in the original school in order for your checkup in 20 years to have any meaning.

    • Re:Procrastination (Score:5, Insightful)

      by alvinrod ( 889928 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @01:00PM (#59550464)
      For all we know, he may well still be happier 20 years from now as well. There are plenty of jobs that a person can do without a high school education and some of them pay well. If this person has absolutely no interest in the type of career that the school system is designed to train people for then it's hard to argue that his time is wasted doing something else.

      If you choose to sit around playing video games on a phone all day, that probably isn't all that valuable. However, there are entire models of education [wikipedia.org] based around letting students be more independent and figure things out for themselves. I don't think that's a perfect model that works for every student either, but there are probably some people who could benefit from it.

      Presumably some sociologist has thought to look at the population that goes to these free schools to see what kind of outcomes they have. I tried to do some quick searching on this and stumbled across a story from 2012 [japantimes.co.jp] that's essentially the same as this one.
      • by rastos1 ( 601318 )

        There are plenty of jobs that a person can do without a high school

        Sure, they can dig the trenches with no education. However there is more to life than having a job. Do they understand interest? Will they know not to touch bare wires? Will they understand how vaccination works? Why not to eat stale food? Will they understand importance of freedom of speech? And that the world is not flat?

        Without education they can live like Amish. They will learn from their elderly and be happy. But it may be happiness

    • How good is being on the dole in Japan? In those progressive countries you can live pretty well without working.

  • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @12:00PM (#59550200)

    From the article:

    Many schools in Japan control every aspect of their pupils' appearance, forcing pupils to dye their brown hair black, or not allowing pupils to wear tights or coats, even in cold weather. In some cases they even decide on the colour of pupils' underwear.

    And they wonder why kids would rahter go as far as killing themselves over going to school.....

    I enjoy learning and enjoyed going to school, but oppressive rules like that would make even me hate going to school, and are indicative of an extremely oppressinve and controlling culture.

    • by Calydor ( 739835 )

      Holy crap. That's so far beyond totalitarian I have no words. It's like real-world Equilibrium just with no mood-suppressing drugs to help you.

      • Being told to dye your hair is "far beyond totalitarian"? What happened to being forced to starve, genocided, and beaten? Those are cool? I would ask someone who was in a Japanese concentration camp getting tortured and gassed whether they prefer that over being forced to dye their hair. If we aren't able to have a sense of proportion we're F'd ok? Being told to dye your hair is inconvenient and a pain, it's not the same as torture .. you have zero clue.

        • by Calydor ( 739835 )

          Being told exactly how you must look, literally right down to the color of your fucking UNDERWEAR, with no semblance of personal freedom and choice, is indeed totalitarian. Do you also think it's okay to tell people which gender they must be, what job they must have, which spouse they must marry, how many kids they must have and so on?

          • You are equating being forced to do ONE or two things with the equivalent of being forced to do EVERYTHING against your will. Being forced to dye your hair is not the same as being told whom to marry. It's crazy to go ballistic if you can't do even one thing different than the way you want, with no regard for how it affects others. Being forced to dye your hair blue isn't the same as being forced to marry someone you don't like. Being forced to wear clothes in public isn't the same as being locked in a room

      • Holy crap. That's so far beyond totalitarian I have no words.

        No offense, but you need more words.

        This isn't even close to totalitarianism. Most people who've experienced the real thing would slap the snot out of you for watering down the word into near-meaninglessness.

        It's control, it's stifling of individual expression, it's enforcing conformity, etc etc etc but it's not totalitarianism.

        "Totalitarianism is a political system or a form of government that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extrem

        • I think people are redefining words here. https://www.merriam-webster.co... [merriam-webster.com]
          Note that several of those definitions are not about government controls. So yes, stifling of individual expression by those in authority (a school), enforcing of conformity, and punishment for being different can indeed be totalitarian by the dictionary definition even though it's not being used in a political sense.

        • by sjames ( 1099 )

          Other than the political part, the definition fits pretty well if you're not even allowed to have the hair color you were born with.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 23, 2019 @12:18PM (#59550304)
      My wife (who is Japanese) and I were talking about our son's last day of school before winter break, they played games and ate junk food all day. She said in Japan on their last day, they studied for 2 hours then had to clean the school from floor to ceiling.

      Elementary school in Japan is very strict, they do try to remove the individualistic characteristics from the kids... total obedience. A friend of mine met his wife in Japan while he taught English at the schools. He figures they will eventually move back to Japan but not until their kids are at least teens. He got to experience that school culture for years and has no desire to put his kids through it.
      • I have a friend who taught English in Japan for years got married and came back to the US before having kids and probably won't go back until they are grown. He said the cost/size of housing was terrible also.

        • by Ogive17 ( 691899 )
          Depends on where they want to live. With the rapidly aging population and the desire of younger generations to live in the urban centers, you can find rural houses that have been abandoned for super cheap.
    • I've been to Japan, and although there is nearly zero violent crime .. it's laughable to think they are an oppressive culture. Literally the freedom to do anything from hiring a hot prostitute to walking around dressed as an anime character exists there. So I am not sure what aspects of it are oppressive .. maybe the schools are "oppressive"? If that's true it's worth it to be oppressed for 18 years and then to have the freedom to do basically whatever after that. I am sure they have a valid reason for impl

      • by Ogive17 ( 691899 )
        Elementary school in Japan is a bit like being assimilated by the Borg. You are part of the collective, do not step out of line. Your career path is normally decided before you enter high school. Don't get good enough test scores, it's off to vocational prep high school for you! You talk about just dealing with it until becoming an adult... well imagine having to make your career choice by the time you are 13 years old.

        Even with our inferior education standards in the US, we still pump out a number o
      • I wouldn't trust the crime statistics personally. There was a fiasco awhile back where statisticians showed that the police frequently only classified a murder as a murder if there was a clear suspect to pin it on. They didn't want to mess up their murder case closure rates by having murders on the books that weren't likely to be solved. From an American perspective Japanese culture is far more indoctrinating. Hell just look at what is expected as the cultural norm in a business office.

        • If the actual number is 20x higher .. that's still lower than here. Do you honestly think they can fudge the numbers by 20x?

    • by hey! ( 33014 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @01:04PM (#59550478) Homepage Journal

      Some people think it's really important for children to learn to conform and be obedient. Others think it's important to teach them to think for themselves and question authority. The thing is neither of them is wrong all the time, nor right all the time. Wear a tie to work because that's expected, and show up when you're supposed to? Check. Tell people at work things they need to hear but don't wan to? Refuse to go along with things you think are wrong? Check also.

      People conceive of education as if conformity or individuality were mutually exclusive, but as a human being you need both. You need be yourself, and at the same time function as part of the society you live in. To do that takes flexibility and resilience, and teaching those things should start with practicing them. We should consider that there is actually some merit to the notion that kids need to learn to suck it up and do things they don't want. But people also need to recognize when they've gone overboard and what they're doing isn't working.

    • "Many schools in Japan control every aspect of their pupils' appearance, forcing pupils to dye their brown hair black, or not allowing pupils to wear tights or coats, even in cold weather. In some cases they even decide on the colour of pupils' underwear." Being micromanaged to the extreme would kill anybody's spirit. Inmates in a super locked down prison like ADX Florence have more freedom than this! And that last one is all kind of ick. How would they even know what color of underwear a student is wearing
  • by fluffernutter ( 1411889 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @12:02PM (#59550214)
    Very few kids actually *want* to go to school. The idea is that the parents force them to do it. Has been this way since the down of time.
    • Never really minded being educated. Sure, some of it seemed pointless, or perhaps the methods used, but education in itself was OK.

      The other 21 students in the room is what made school miserable for me....

    • Re:Different, how? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by jiriw ( 444695 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @02:01PM (#59550732) Homepage

      The down of time.... Well of course kids wouldn't want their down time being intruded upon.

      Anyway, I hated going to school at first. Not because I was forced to or wasn't interested in learning new things. I just didn't fit in. And it's usually the 'other kids' that find out first. And kids can be cruel. My yearly reports were like this: "Jiri usually looks out of the window and every now and then helps cleaning the terrarium" (we had a terrarium with some small beasties in class).

      That changed when I went to another school where I was able to actually learn interesting things and had a possibility to partially set my own pace. I was still one of the somewhat 'weirder' students but it was not like I totally fell out of tune. And say what? Three years later with the end-of-elementary school testing I scored 548 out of 550. Only one person in the district had a higher score - no-one saw that coming. (In the Netherlands we have a test called CITO test. Most children go through it at the age of 12 - the end of their elementary school period, to have some indication which level of high school/pre college would be a good fit for them. The test has three main categories of which Dutch language skills and basic calculations are mandatory).

      Subsequently I was bullied again in high school but did great in class because of some amazing teachers, extra curriculum I could attend and an overall great school and then flunked again in university because I was definitely not ready to handle the independence - to say I'm easily distracted is an understatement and I rather liked to program and explore the internet in the terminal room (in 1996) than attend the colleges. But at that time I had found out the best way to learn something for me is to just do it and work it out myself. And that there were a few things which were too hard for me to actually get decent enough at to make it my job and I'd better pick something else than stall and delay and buck and get nothing done at all (my breaking point was the fluency needed in solving third order differential equations to pass the exams for some of the more advanced physics classes - I then went on doing some -succesfull- classes in computer science at a more practical level in the last few years of my studies and then dropped out).

      Nowadays I'm doing great as a part time (80%) software developer for various small companies and earn enough to support myself and a mountain of hobbies and interests like radio amateurism, electronics and computer* (the asterisk is intentional). My 'down time' I split between those hobbies and volunteering work for some groups and organizations (mostly again hobby related, like for VERON, the Dutch version of the ARRL).

      So, school isn't for everyone and there are many types of education. And while I can only judge from my perspective as a child, I think as a parent, it's your responsibility to find a form of education that fits your child and make him/her to actually want to go to school. School should be fun, challenging at the right level... else it's just a waste of time. At a later age, count yourself lucky if he/she picks up something that is both interesting and gives him/her the opportunity to become independent in society. Oh, and be a parent. Raise your children. Don't expect school to be solely responsible for a child's education. There is tons of things I learned from my parents. Things you can never learn in school (like how to keep your finances in check, social rules, a way of learn to cope with the unexplainable - and yes, that may include some form of religion - and at the other side, encourage independent thinking and truthseeking, the importance of hygiene etc.). And to them, I will be eternally grateful for that.

    • Lots of kids want to go to school on the first day of the school year.

      They have to forced on a day to day basis, sure, same with anything else.

      But if there is some reason they can't go for more than a week, like a sickness, or teacher strike, or something, most students are eager to get back. At least until the first bell rings.

  • by Ryzilynt ( 3492885 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @12:09PM (#59550264)

    Interesting , I never considered saying "i'm not going". Probably because it wasn't an option. My father would have laughed at me. These kids get to go to "free school" where they do whatever they want and get no degree or diploma? Then they can sit in the room in their parents house and never come out? Good plan.

    I wonder if video games have anything to do with this.

  • by kackle ( 910159 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @12:55PM (#59550450)
    I remember seeing a documentary years ago about how at least one Japanese(?) school handled "bullying". They would just let the little kids "fight it out" (they were so young that it wasn't violent as much as it was one kid taking toys away from another). They stated that it was meant to teach the kids how to deal with such struggles. I don't remember any of the details, but if they allow that mentality to go on as they get older, I can see why some bullied kids ("Be nice." their parents might tell them) would want to avoid that scene altogether.

    As one who was bullied (and whose parents taught "Be nice."), I'd say one of the bigger issues is that a kid has no options. An adult can move out of a crappy neighborhood, change social groups or get a different job. But a kid mostly HAS to stand at that bus stop, ride the same bus and sit in his assigned seat next to so-and-so. Thinking that it will end in so many years when you graduate is not comforting.
  • Japan is special.... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by times05 ( 1683662 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @01:27PM (#59550578)

    Why is it that in every article about Japan there's some new Japanese term for something that MUST be mentioned???? Would not mentioning what word for absenteeism is in Japanese somehow diminish the article? Why don't we do that for any other culture?

    For example, there's an article below this about Ethiopia launching satellite, yet nobody wrote what Ethiopian term for satellite or related stuff is. Article above is about Emirati spyware, again surprise, no words from UAE dictionary thrown at the reader. Above that article about South Korea, yet AGAIN, no South Korean terms mentioned.....

    • by Aighearach ( 97333 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @02:28PM (#59550842)

      The Japanese term for people with your complaint is Baka.

    • by Dunbal ( 464142 ) *

      Why is it that in every article about Japan there's some new Japanese term for something that MUST be mentioned????

      Ahh this phenomenon is known by the Japanese term "detarame", which can also mean the shit of the bull.

    • You seem oddly upset by this, but it's unclear why. Anyway, part of the reason is that they tend to come up with specific words for stuff like this. It's not just "absenteeism", it's a specific form of it. Not sure how interesting it is that there would be words in other languages that translate directly to 'satellite' or 'spyware'. Now, if there were a cool sounding word in Ethiopian for some new type of satellite launch they had invented where they use a fucking slingshot and then shoot the satellite in m
    • It like the Klingon in star trek, it's the only language that the universal translator will not translate certain words and you will have to explain.
      • by HiThere ( 15173 )

        You understate the case. Japanese has too many characters for specific terms to fit into Unicode. Most of them are rare poetic forms, but they're part of the official language.

        (Actually, I suspect that they just overflow the section of Unicode allotted to Japanese...but it's still special.)

  • I was never under the impression that I actually had a choice.
  • by AxisOfPleasure ( 5902864 ) on Monday December 23, 2019 @03:35PM (#59551134)

    When I was young, it seemed that life was so wonderful
    A miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical
    And all the birds in the trees, well they'd be singing so happily
    Oh joyfully, playfully watching me
    But then they send me away to teach me how to be sensible
    Logical, oh responsible, practical
    And they showed me a world where I could be so dependable
    Oh clinical, oh intellectual, cynical.

    There are times when all the world's asleep
    The questions run too deep
    For such a simple man
    Won't you please, please tell me what we've learned
    I know it sounds absurd
    Please tell me who I am

  • by Qbertino ( 265505 ) <moiraNO@SPAMmodparlor.com> on Monday December 23, 2019 @06:58PM (#59551886)

    Read the essay "Why Nerds are unpopular" by Paul Graham. paulgraham.com/nerds.html it should be. That essay sums up my youth and school in general pretty much spot on. I figure it's ten times that for Japanese and Korean and probably Chinese schools as well.

    That kids don't want to school in Japan is a sign of good mental health and common sense,in more ways than one IMHO.

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