Red Herring Comes Back 110
alinv writes "Red Herring, once the hype bible of the Valley VC economy, has made a comeback. The site was relaunched today. They are trying to pitch the site as an Economist-style, no-bylines gig. More details on the buyout by a French company and relaunch plans here."
Never a more appropriate name (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Never a more appropriate name (Score:2, Interesting)
It took me ages to realise that it wasn't a "the onion" style piss-take.
Re:Never a more appropriate name (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Never a more appropriate name (Score:1)
DotCom comeback? (Score:2, Redundant)
Then again, Red Hat isn't a dotcom
Re:DotCom comeback? (Score:2)
Can a dead cat bounce?
For everyone but its fanatical users, Napster has been an endless series of headaches. First it was the recording industry, whose five major labels - BMG, Sony, the Universal Music Group, EMI, and the Warner Music Group - cried copyright infringement and forced Napster to shutter its music file-swapping service in 2001.
Looks like they are trying to go back three years ago
Re:mirror (Score:5, Funny)
p.s. Hope your server stops smoking soon!
Red herring back? I dont know. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Red herring back? I dont know. (Score:2)
Bought by a French company... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Bought by a French company... (Score:1)
Re:Bought by a French company... (Score:2)
Bought by a French company ?? (Score:2)
Thomas Miconi-
(PS: More seriously, the man seems to be called Alex Serge-Vieux [dasar.com]. Never heard about him, but if his credentials are genuine, we can say two things:
1) He's probably not the most stupid manager on this planet (Paris-Dauphine and La Sorbonne means "good", especially if it's on the teaching side of the desk; same thing for Le Monde [lemonde.fr]).
2) His political inclinations seem to lean on the center-left. He served as a top civil servant under S
Re:Bought by a French company... (Score:1)
(Mods: it's a joke. I really like the French!)
Back from the dead (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Back from the dead (Score:2)
Re:Back from the dead (Score:1)
In Boston, the VC market is back to what it was just before the late-90s insanity. I guess the Valley has been slower to get out of the funk than Boston has...
New pronunciation (Score:1)
OK, it's not that funny, but when I hear it in my head it makes me giggle.
Re:New pronunciation (Score:2)
"Air-in"
Re:New pronunciation (Score:2)
Re:New pronunciation (Score:1)
Magasine Subscription (Score:4, Informative)
I wonder what'll happen to my subscription, I got a letter a while back saying that for every issue of Red Herring I was still to receive, I'd get 1.9 (!) copies of Business 2.0 instead.
Actually I find Business 2.0 more readable, and frankly more interesting
Re:Magasine Subscription (Score:2, Funny)
Too bad every other issue is missing the last 10% of the pages.
Re:Magasine Subscription (Score:1)
Re:Magasine Subscription (Score:5, Insightful)
If you want to read a magazine like The Economist [economist.com], then read The Economist.
Never invest in an group whose goal is: "We aim to be like 'them'!"
and never invest in Sun, but that's another story...
-B
Welcome Red Herring! (Score:1, Funny)
Re:is this a joke ? (Score:1)
Red Herring back? (Score:2, Funny)
I just hope... (Score:5, Interesting)
I just hope they won't be as arrogant as they used to be before. I think that almost every slashdotter would agree with me that the level or arrogance coming out of Red Herring during the dot-com boom, probably surpassed the arrogance and self-righteousness that comes out of Wired.
Damn! I'd better stop reading both those magazines.
Re:I just hope... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I just hope... (Score:1)
Re:I just hope... (Score:1)
What? You do realize that both Car & Driver and Road & Track, along with many other magazines are French-owned (Hachette-Filippachi)?
Re:I just hope... (Score:1)
Re:I just hope... (Score:2, Funny)
Indeed! I for one am confident that the French buyout will temper any arrogant and self-righteous behavior.
Re:I just hope... (Score:4, Interesting)
Now, their fulfillment department--that was arrogant. I had considered re-starting my subscription in their dying days, but then I received a letter one day saying something like, "I no longer have time to continue asking you to renew. Either do so or we'll remove you from our list." Let's hope this incarnation of Red Herring has a more, eh, mature management.
Who could possibly know more vibrant economies... (Score:2, Offtopic)
A more interesting question is what the under/over line is for the Euro collapsing. Given that France and German are blithely ignoring the deficit constraints required by the Euro agreement [nationalreview.com], it's only a matter of time. By then, all investments outside France, even in a failed American dot-com magazine, will look farsighted.
Primates capitulards et tou-jours en quete de harengs.
Re:Who could possibly know more vibrant economies. (Score:2)
Euro collapsing? Last time I looked the Euro has been gradually gaining strength [yahoo.com] against the dollar and sterling for the last couple of years. But then perhaps you know something that the markets don't... Or maybe you're just prejudiced against the Europeans...
Re:Who could possibly know more vibrant economies. (Score:2)
If you think that deficit spending will lead to devaluation of currency, then be ready for the U.S. dollar to be worth the same as the peso. It doesn't work that way, at least not in black and white.
Re:Who could possibly know more vibrant economies. (Score:2)
I have to buy groceries in pesos, you insensitive clod!
Front page link? (Score:5, Funny)
Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Maybe they could print hilarious examples of "grammar gone awry"? Makes me laugh.
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Fewest cockroaches. Cockroaches are discrete. And, by that, I don't mean that they can keep secrets.
-j
It's coming around again... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:It's coming around again... (Score:2)
RH launch will boost some sites traffic (Score:2, Funny)
Re:RH launch will boost some sites traffic (Score:1)
My the grapes are sour today (Score:5, Interesting)
Now Red Herring is back, and it seems to be the whipping boy for the Dot-Com era. We can all remember back to those days and blame all the hype and excesses and idiocy of that time on one magazine. But let's be honest - a lot of people bought into the hype in those years, and it wasn't just the writers and editors at Red Herring. In fact, a lot of their articles were pretty sceptical.
If Red Herring's re-emergence means that seed investors are slowly edging back into the technology field, so much the better for those of us who do work in the tech world. I for one like it when there are multiple sources of information and multiple viewpoints. Schadenfreude only gets you so far.
Re:My the grapes are sour today (Score:1)
I've never seen a magazine before or since that managed such a tight focus on the *business* of technology, and that really kept to the cutting edge. At that point, it was a much better magazine than it ever had been before, which was just when they decided to pull the plug.
It really doesn't deserve
Re:My the grapes are sour today (Score:2)
That's so true. I remember seeing some of the headlines in the last few months of their existence, and thinking, "Damn, they sure aren't afraid to bite the hand that feeds them." They also had some really good writers, and the amount of actual facts they got their hands on seemed to be much better (again, in their end-game) than any of the other tech mags.
I for one hope that the new endeavor
No bylines? (Score:2)
No bylines? Isn't that just a license to spew? Who is their audience, and who do they think will pay for advertising? How do they plan on gaining credibility? For that matter, who would want to write for them? They mentioned a selection of freelance authors. Are they writing nothing but editorials? I hope it's not another Salon.com. Advertisers don't like
War in the Valley? (Score:1)
Return to the Future (Score:1)
New NYTimes entry point (Score:3, Funny)
&partner=MOREOVER
I guess we can stop abusing &partner=GOOGLE now.
No bylines??? (Score:1)
Running on .NET (Score:1)
So what? (Score:2)
Forget about VC (until you don't need it) [alwayson-network.com]
bernard Lunn [Concordia Consulting LLC] | POSTED: 09.18.03 @05:26
In case you still have any illusions about writing a business plan and getting a few million dollars of venture capital, here is the wake up call. It won?t happen. Period.
OK, maybe you think, ?I can get angel money to build the prototype and then get some money to get it to market.? Sorry, that used to be true but the goal post just got moved again.
Bottom line article sum
Bitter are we? (Score:2)
Just as a datapoint, according to the most recent surveys by Fenwick and West the SV venture market is picking up again. The bottom was probably Q1 of this year, in the past quarter the number of down rounds decreased and the number of companies getting seed and A round funding increased.
VCs move in herds, and at the moment the herd is breaking out its checkbook again. BTW, Mr. Lunn is full of it. I know from perso
boo.com reborn? (Score:2)
Or do we have to wait until fuckedcompany.com reveals it?
Are you the 5th, 8th, or 10th company in your technology space?
So you think you've been anointed by the VCs as THE NEXT BIG THING. Well, Renaissance Ventures apparently still thinks SCO is the NEXT BIG THING, too. Perhaps your backers are just as good at picking winners.
There was once a time when people were impressed by what VCs consider the NEXT BIG THING. That time is considered ancient history by
one other thing... (Score:2)
You sound like a 16 year old who heard about all the musicians who've decided to do without record labels and said "What clu3l3ss luz3rz, all the more money for m3!"
Your position with respect to what's in your contract is also similar.
If you're lucky, you'll get the money and a VC willing to work his Roladex (it will not be a contacts database) for you. And if you actually manage to build a real company with real products that people will be buying. . . you
Second bubble (Score:2)
Re:I see the connection now! (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Great Journalistic Attitude (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Great Journalistic Attitude (Score:2)
Nope, definately doesn't rhyme.