Microsoft Will Stream Ads To Grocery Carts 484
dptalia writes "Later this year, at ShopRite supermarkets in the eastern US, Microsoft will be rolling out computerized shopping carts. These carts will allow people with a ShopRite card to enter their shopping list on the ShopRite site from home, and then pull up the list on their grocery cart when they swipe their card. The new carts will also display advertisements depending on where in the supermarket the cart is, using RFID technology to help locate it."
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Every BSOD rewards the shopper with free cart of groceries.
Shop early, shop often!
It's the new version of Supermarket Sweep [wikipedia.org]
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=Smidge=
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If your are clumsy placing items in the cart and break the screen have your bought the shopping trolley. On top of all that, with all those wireless trolleys in
Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! (Score:5, Funny)
I thought the same thing about savings cards. YOU SAVED $18.43 MISTER LIVESTOCK! Surely people can not be this dumb, and this idea will fail... but no.
The vast majority of the population just eats this shit up. They actually read their junk mail. If it weren't for them you wouldn't get junk mail, because it wouldn't be worth mailing in the first place.
It is so sad. I do my part by avoiding these establishments, but I'm afraid it's not doing a damn bit of good.
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Amazes me, the shit that people will support. Give them a credit card and they'll buy their own golden cage and cheerfully lock themselves inside.
ObCaptcha: "Stress".
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As a subscriber you are probably not aware that /. has started inserting banner ads after some posts.
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Gasoline and groceries are commodities that you can buy wherever you like, with or without the BS. The point is that people _choose_ to buy them from places like I mentioned because they PREFER to be bombarded with advertising and promos.
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Gasoline and groceries are commodities that you can buy wherever you like, with or without the BS. The point is that people _choose_ to buy them from places like I mentioned because they PREFER to be bombarded with advertising and promos.
I just usually say I left my shopper's card at home. The cashier simply scans a "store card" and I get the benefits. However, I do lose the ten cents per gallon gas discount I get for every $50 spent. It's not hard for a family of four to generate $500 of grocery spending in a short time and get $1 off per gallon of gas on their next fill-up.
As for advertising, the grocery story sends all sorts of stuff to "resident" in this area, anyway. The only difference would be I get my name on the To: address.
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I remain unconvinced that I want to urinate on a plasma screen, given the voltage that they run at...
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In Shicago Re:Baaaaahhaaah! Baaaahhh! (Score:2)
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My aren't you blowing high and mighty (Score:2, Insightful)
Advertising has ALWAYS been with us. When commerce became viable the person selling something has always had to attract people to buy their wares. Not just the actual product but to buy it from them.
And it works, you fall for it too. How else do you know it was a SHELL gas station? If you were imune to it and not a sheep you would just tank at any gas station. (but without any advertising whatsoever, how would you know it is a gas station?) You obviously saw Shells adversting, yes even the sign that says S
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I did the same thing that the GP did, and the only reason I know it was a Shell station is because I explicitly checked once the ads started so I'd know which gas stations to avoid in the future. I wouldn't have known it was Shell if they hadn't made me care.
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And it works, you fall for it too. How else do you know it was a SHELL gas station? If you were imune to it and not a sheep you would just tank at any gas station. (but without any advertising whatsoever, how would you know it is a gas station?) You obviously saw Shells adversting, yes even the sign that says Shell is part of advertising.
So feel all high and mighty, the advertisers know your kind and they target you most succesfully.
Hmmm, let me check my dictionary... no, wait, I'm sorry, I don't see "piss the fuck out of me so much that I consciously remember which gas station this is so I can avoid it like the plague, even if it means driving five miles out of my way" as a definition for "successful". You must be using some sort of mystical marketing dictionary.
As for saving cards, good don't use them. Supermarkets are sure to care that they do not have to give you that discount. Teach them a lesson, pay more!
Me: "Oh, I'm sorry, I seem to have forgotten my card at home!"
Clerk: "Don't worry, I got it." *keys in the "store card"*
I have only once had a clerk who wouldn't give me t
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The best thing to do in such a letter is to be polite, precise, and calm. Insulting them or railing at them will just make them throw your letter away. Here's a sample letter, feel free to mangle it to your needs:
"I'm a long-time customer at Shell, and I almost always get my gas there (at your Main Street location in Los Santos) because it's so convenient for my drive to work. But ever since those flat-panel TVs have been installed out in the pump area, it's nearly unbearable to pump gas. Not only is the audio loud and distracting, but the TVs seem to cause people to take significantly longer to pump their gas (they just stand around staring at the TVs), meaning I end up waiting to get gas. As a result I've decided to start getting my gas at [insert local independent gas station here]. Maybe if the TVs are removed I might come back to Shell, but for now it's just not worth it.
Sincerely, Soandso"
And be sure you do this on PAPER, signed in pen, and mailed to their corporate headquarters. From a customer-service standpoint, this is the kind of letter companies tend to love, because 1) it's not insulting, rude, demanding, or insane; and 2) it provides actual useful feedback from actual customers. As a bonus, sometimes companies will send you free stuff, or gift certificates, or coupons, or whatever, usually worth more than the letter cost you to write and mail
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I still take the opportunity while pumping gas to clean the windows and/or check the oil, and make it a point to ignore the extra commercials. But the original reason I switched to this station is they are the only ones in the neighborhood to offer low-sulfur gas. As far as I know that hasn't changed, so they'll keep my business
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Mega chain retailers, gas stations included, rely on conformity to "plan-o-grams," actual required product placement blueprints, at which the minimum-wage dregs while away the hours in some attempt to conform. The aspirin goes near the coffee and next to the gum, because the hangover crowd will be there in the morning. Useless crap lead-containing toys are placed at knee-level next to the lines for the registers, because the little scamps will invariably demand the purchase of such items, just when impatient mommy has her wallet out--that is if the yuppie parents of said scamps have not left them in a still-running, unlocked car in an unattended parking lot. The tire gauges are near the motor oil, but just around the bend from the tampons; men buy them (both even), but single moms concerned about highway safety do as well. The expensive cigarette lighters are on the counter for easy theft, but the equally capable ones are behind it, hidden, where they are only stolen by employees. You practically trip over Red Bull and Coca-Cola on the way in, but god help you to find the generic cola. Just scratching the surface here, but you get my drift.
These plan-o-grams change frequently, as trends are explored and exploited. The monitors are another campaign in the impulse buy campaign, and I have only addressed gas (petrol) stations. I have multiple experiences as a retail manager, and as a gas station employee, and I am somewhat fascinated by these ploys.
Moving to other sellers, specifically electronics.... Next Christmas, or at any competitive sale time, closely examine the "loss leaders" employed by retailers. The idea is this: sell item X at near or below cost, knowing that it will trigger increased revenue from accessory items Y and Z, either instantly via the marketing miracle of "batteries not included" or continuously via "games sold separately." Barbies need outfits. Xboxen require games. My favorite, from my Radio $hack days, was to sell the remote control car at my cost exactly (which I revealed), so that I could easily demand that the poor sucker dad buy two rechargeable batteries (gotta have a spare, especially at well over 90% margin) and all the 9-volts he could carry (insane low cost, insane standard market price fixing), all the while coming out smelling like a rose. This is standard procedure, so you know the more devious schemes are way more insulting, such as video screens on your shopping cart.
As for grocery stores, we have always realized that kid cereal is on the bottom, bargain cereal is at waist level and receives limited shelf real estate, and that premium cereal is highlighted with "sale pricing" (also known as standard mark-up) and is at shoulder level, as far as the eye can see. Frankly, grocers endure painfully low profit margin percentages, but thankfully for them, humans cannot live without food (particularly for rural markets, the choke price for milk and bread can get pretty ridiculous). Closely examine the items in the advertisement from week to week. When ground beef is on sale, regularly priced hamburger buns are generously placed right in the meat market, with a slammin' pyramid of regularly priced ketchup and pickle slices opposing; lettuce and onions are not on special either. The same gas station methods are employed at the registers, and it is no accident that toys and school supplies come right after cereal, aisle-wise. You'll also notice t
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I love those shell tv's (Score:3, Insightful)
Now if you want to see advertising at its most crass, and annoylingly blatant I suggust you look at miejers ( never know how to spell that, what the heck is a J doing in the middle of the
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Ultimately I was pretty glad they installed those vile things. I never did write to Ralph's and thank them for making me leave the path of least resistance.
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I don't fully understand what your problem is. Savings cards? Some people like saving money, and aren't so fucking sad and lazy that they can actually _gasp_ walk to the garbage/recycling can and just throw it away? Using a card you can save hundreds of dollars a year! What fools!
I think part of this is a good idea. Being able to have your shopping list instantly seems like a good idea to me.
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With the volume up: Thank you for buying ansell condoms. People who purchased this product also bought...
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Speaking of that, when I initially glanced at the title I thought it read "Microsoft Will Stream Ass to Grocery Carts". I don't know whether to be relieved or disappointed.
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But seriously folks, after mapping out our local store and the kind of items in each aisle/section, it was pretty easy to generate the most efficient route to take through the store after entering all the items we needed to pick up. To make things easier a pulldown list of menus for each day throws all the ingredients required into the list so we don't miss anything.
It's super quick to get through the store now.
We suggested to the store management that they provide
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Don't worry about it, the carts won't work. (Score:2)
Seems like it is hard enough to find a regular old analog-wheels-to-hold-my-stuff cart that has all the welds intact. Imagine trying to find some wi-fi thingy that is working, charged up, etc.
Bah. When I was a kid we had to kill our own food. And we liked it!
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If you don't like the ads... (Score:5, Funny)
Actually, given how shopping carts are treated (banged around the parking lot, slammed around by the cart-pushers, left in the rain, cleaned with a high-pressure hose), I suspect quite a few of these will be broken shortly after introduction.
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What if they used the sapphire-crystal displays we say here a few weeks back?
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No bumping necessary. It's the only OS I know that will crash by itself if you leave it alone long enough.
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Well, at least the homeless will get to see what they can't afford as they pass by the store with the stolen cart.
Thats the microsoft curse. (Score:2)
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rj
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what a great time to be homeless (Score:5, Funny)
It could be good! (Score:3, Interesting)
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What is a grocery store? (Score:3, Interesting)
It's 2008 and the big innovation is a shopping car that spams you while it directs you around a bunch of aisles essentially the same way we did in 1945, but with more targeted marking and shelving placement than ever? Really? That's the best we can do?
Maybe it's a generational thing, but I have not shopped in a grocery store in almost my entire adult life. The last time I went into a grocery store was 1999. I get my groceries delivered to me with the click of a button. I decide what time I want my groceries, they come to my door and carry them into my kitchen. I spend almost zero time involved in groceries. While this is probably only available in big cities like the bay area, Portland, Denver and others, this is something that should be both available *and* used everywhere by almost every one. You don't still go out and butcher or milk your own cow. You don't go out and pick your own oranges. So why wheel a cart around like some sort of trained monkey in a store full of fluorescent lights and elevator music and snotty whining kids grabbing things off the shelves and throwing tantrums in the middle of the aisle?
Hell, I haven't bought shoes in person or tools or entertainment in person in years, either. Except for rare instances involving things like my car that can't be otherwise addressed, I have reduced actual physical shopping to something I no longer "have" to do. For years, the only shopping I've had to do is that which I *choose* to do. Things that make it a luxury. Places and things that I can enjoy going to and shopping for (such as home entertainment stuff). I farm the crap shopping off to the wonderful services that Albertsons, Safeway, Kingsoopers and others now offer (and before that, Webvan, etc).
So that there's a new little attachment to a shopping car that more efficiently delivers shit to your eyeballs while supposedly easing up your shopping situation -- IN 2008 -- is the least impressive thing I've heard this year.
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I'm sure one good wack into the side of an asile will disable these damn things. Or dropping a 50lb bag of chicken feed on it will do.
"butcher or milk your own cow" I get eggs from my chickens, does that count?
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Secondly, you sit in you house waiting for deliveries? - how quaint - just like the milk vendor used to in the old days. Just go to the shop and pick stuff up, why is that so hard. With the time you save not sitting around for the delivery illegal alien, you could
Re:What is a grocery store? (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, we guessed that.
Do you have a wife or a girlfriend? Ask her about women's clothing sizes, especially with everything being made in 97 different countries. One week's "Small" is next week's "Extra Large" and vice versa. Every women I've known gave up on mail order because they were retuning 4 out of 5 items, and it was steadily getting worse. For some reason men's clothes don't suffer the same variance. Only $INSERT_FAVORITE_DEITY knows why.
The problem is that you seem incapable civilly stating that you shop for groceries online and that it's the best thing since sliced bread. You seem incapable of not adding insults against anyone who still likes to shop at the store for a host of valid reasons. That might be why some people suggest you might wont more social interaction because, quite frankly, you really fucking suck at it.
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Man, oh man, do I wish I had mod points. *high five*
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Food is pretty much the only thing I *don't* buy online, but I've got it down to a science. I go food shopping at 11pm on Friday or Saturday night... p
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In short, if you care about what you eat, you need to find it yourself. You might not need to butcher the cow or catch the fish, but you need to be able to look at what's for same and decide if its good quality or not. I doubt what you get is any good.
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During the winter months, is it warm enough down there in your parent's basement?
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What's not cost effective about it? I could spend the time and trouble going to Safeway or Albertsons or Kingsoopers and buying groceries or I could save all that time and effort and pay Safeway or Albertsons or Kingsoopers to bring the SAME groceries TO ME.
I don't know how it works in the US, but here (Paris), I actually *walk* to one of the supermarkets that's 500m away, then shop, then give them my address and they deliver the stuff (free past a certain amount, and I shop for groceries only once every 3 weeks or so) 1 or two hours later at a pre agreed time.
Takes about 40 minutes of my time. And I get to go out and get various other things in the neighbourhood while I'm at it. I looked at shopping online but it wasn't worth the hassle (takes longer unless
A cookie fo your cookies (Score:5, Funny)
So the shopping cart will beg me to buy something as I go near it.
My daughter already does this for me. I am good.
But the real question is... (Score:3, Insightful)
A typical Ad (Score:3, Funny)
It looks like you want to buy a loaf of bread. Would you like some help?
Want to get the best out of your bread? Visit the Windows Wheat Live web site today!
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That will NEVER happen (Score:3, Insightful)
It's a great idea, but stores arrange their shelves and produce specifically to get people to impulse shop. That's why the candy is near the cash machines - so your kids will freak out while you're standing there waiting, in the hopes that you'll cave in and buy them the candy so they'll shut up. The less time you spend in the store, the less changes for you to impulse buy something.
Stores would never do anything that would decrease your time being exposed to their products.
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A lot depends on the store: some stores strongly believe the Piggly Wiggly model that says you make more money by putting "necessities" (diapers, toothpaste, whatever) at the back so that you'll impulse buy your way to and f
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Microsoft Shoppin Cart (Score:2, Funny)
As always, Douglas Adams had the foresight... (Score:3, Funny)
This is because they operate on the curious principle of "defocused temporal perception". In other words they have the capacity to see dimly into the immediate future, which enables the elevator to be on the right floor to pick you up even before you knew you wanted it, thus eliminating all the tedious chatting, relaxing, and making friends that people were previously forced to do whist waiting for elevators.
About this time someone rediscovered an old patent for an ancient device called a "staircase" that let people simply walk from one floor to another, thus dispensing with the whole tedious need for elevators at all...
Quick, someone patent the paper and pencil shopping list!
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THANK GOODNESS! (Score:5, Insightful)
Thank GOD somebody has found a way to exploit this obvious adver-hole in our lives. But this is only the beginning, dammit. I want my dishwasher to leave streaks on my dishes in the shape of a Whirlpool logo. Red traffic lights should be replaced with reminders that Goodyear tires would help you stop more quickly, and green with reminders to buy Amoco Ultimate gasoline. Each light bulb should cast the logo and name of a popular pharmaceutical against the floor, ceiling, or wall (talk to your doctor about it!). When I'm calling somebody on the phone, I shouldn't have to listen to some boring "ring" sound -- not when I could hear about the virtues of Domino's pizza! We must not rest until every single person is being sold something every second of every minute of every hour of every day from every square meter of the globe. Together, we can do it.
This message brought to you by The Association of National Advertisers [ana.net]. Raping your eyes and ears, over and over, and you can't stop it.(tm)
* Static photos already there -- obviously insufficient
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In other news... (Score:2)
Grocery list (Score:5, Funny)
Customers with a ShopRite loyalty card will be able to log into a Web site at home and type in their grocery lists; when they get to the store and swipe their card on the MediaCart console, the list will appear.
..will appear on the screen for all to see, yay! I can't wait until people take peeks at my grocery list on my hi-tech shopping cart.
-Strawberries.. Check
-Whipped cream.. Check
-Cucumbers.. Check
-Whiskey.. Check
-Vaseline.. Check
-Bullwhip.. Check
-Laxative suppositories.. Check
-Making people who read my grocery list look embarrassed.. Check
Who? (Score:4, Insightful)
Bottom falls out of pencil sharpener market. (Score:2, Interesting)
Ads while I shop? (Score:2)
Theft (Score:5, Interesting)
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Can't keep me away (Score:2)
What a great new venue for Clippy! (Score:2)
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Let's see, we're gonna need.... (Score:2)
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I'd hate for these things to get hacked... (Score:2)
WTF! (Score:2)
What do they have in their mind about the "humans" on the receiving end?
Are we machines - button pushed here, response there? Probably that's what it is - objects to be "guided" and "lead".
If I want to see something, I also want to be the one having some kind of choice what and how to select it.
The only explanation I have is that all this information "rain" pouring down has some kind of subliminal effect and pays in $$'s - or fa
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2. I've got a few uses for smallish lcd screens, looks like i'll be taking a few home with me!
The History of Computing in a Nutshell (Score:5, Funny)
Microsoft gives us an annoying shopping cart.
Golden opportunity for hackers? (Score:3, Interesting)
Why should they learn? (Score:2)
Has any punishment they've received been equal to or greater than the benefits they receive as a monopoly?