Mininova Starts Filtering Torrents 267
Dreen writes with this snippet from TorrentFreak: "Just a few days before their court appearance, Mininova, the largest BitTorrent site on the Internet, has started to filter content. The site is using a third-party content recognition system that will detect and remove torrent files that link to copyright-infringing files."
Lol. (Score:4, Insightful)
Coming up next (Score:5, Insightful)
Mininova collapses. How Mininova went from being the largest BitTorrent site to being the smallest.
Re:Coming up next (Score:5, Funny)
Mininova collapses.
Mini-blackhole?
Re:Coming up next (Score:5, Funny)
Mininova collapses. How Mininova went from being the largest BitTorrent site to being the smallest.
Like a Suprnova collapsing, but with a smaller burst of radiation beforehand.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxtBG6FfSSw&NR=1
Remember when that other site got taken down, supernova I think? Yeah, it got taken down and nobody could find torrents anywhere else on the interweb after that.
In other news, traffic suddenly spikes at a new site, moninova. Hrmmm.
Re:Coming up next (Score:5, Informative)
You have to remember that Mininova was always something secondary/tertiary - before first SuperNova and then TorrentSpy both went under.
It had became "largest" solely because RIAA/MPAA have eliminated already everybody larger than MN.
TokyoTosho probably remains now sole source of anime torrents.
Re:Coming up next (Score:5, Informative)
TokyoTosho probably remains now sole source of anime torrents.
I use nyaatorrents [nyaatorrents.org] and boxtorrents [boxtorrents.com] to get most of my anime.
If you want a anime release search try baka-updates.com [baka-updates.com]
Re:Coming up next (Score:5, Insightful)
You win the prize for today.
One of the big strawmen foisted by the pro-piracy community is that Big Media thinks they can stop all piracy. The reality is that Big Media simply wants to keep it from going truly mainstream. By picking the low-hanging fruit, the goal is to scare people away from starting new trackers. If enough people are scared off, then the theory is that there won't be another TorrentSpy or Mininova in the USA -- just a number of smaller sites that stay under the radar.
It's very much like anti-theft measures at retailers and built into cars. The folks who put them in place know darn well that they won't stop everybody, but if they stop the bottom 80%, then it's a worthy investment.
Why Bother (Score:2, Insightful)
They're still going to end up in court.
Re:Why Bother (Score:5, Interesting)
Yes they are - but now they can more-or-less show 'good faith' to the judge.
Currently mininova - knowing full well the reason why people use their site - simply go by the strict laws.. if a copyright holder / representative tells them they're hosting particular copyrighted content, they'll take it down.
Of course it will be back up there 5 minutes later. This is pissing the Dutch interest groups off who are trying to slap the mininova people around a bit with other laws / more loose interpretations.
But now they can say "ahh, but look.. we installed a filter.. it's not our fault that them sneaky pirates find ways around those filters.. it would be *impossible* for us to manually go over each and every upload!".. then hope to exit the court grinning while their main page continues to display top 10 lists of every popular category with scarce 'legal' torrents (I think the Windows 7 Release Candidate was the only one when I checked yesterday and yes, I know there's nothing illegal about a torrent file itself.. splitting hairs over technical details is what they'll be doing in court).
Re:Why Bother (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Why Bother (Score:5, Insightful)
There's a difference between the Mininova defense and the TPB defense:
Mininova: "These are copyrighted, yes, but we do our best to remove content when flagged and we've even installed a filter to remove it automatically. It's not our fault if people still try and get around that."
TPB: "These are copyrighted, yes, but we don't fucking care. Ahahaha, losers."
I'm sure you can pick up the subtleties...
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There's a difference between the Mininova defense and the TPB defense:
Why is this modded +5 insightful!? The trials take/took place in different countries, which naturally don't hold the same laws. That is the only difference that matters as equal crimes will be treated differently in different countries.
-1, self centred.
Re:Why Bother (Score:5, Insightful)
No, he's right. The behaviour of the sites in question has a huge impact on the outcome... Mininova is at least attempting to appear as though they're cooperating with copyright holders. TPB, by contrast, has a long history of replying to C&D letters by telling them things like "This is Sweden, you've got no jurisdiction, silly American coroporation, so fuck off" and then posting said takedown notice on their site so that everybody can read their ridicule.
There's a slight difference. And the copyright laws aren't really *that* different in Sweden when compared to the Netherlands.
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No, he's right. The behaviour of the sites in question has a huge impact on the outcome...
Oh is he now? I would very much like to see what you're basing this "fact" on. Most likely your only references are other American trials, but prove me wrong and I'll stand corrected.
There's a slight difference. And the copyright laws aren't really *that* different in Sweden when compared to the Netherlands.
If you had any idea what you were talking about you'd know that the question is not about breaking or not breaking copyright laws, the question is about assisting in breaking copyright laws. This doesn't exist everywhere, Sweden included, I would know as I'm a Swede.
I'll admit I don't know much about Dutch law, but what I do k
Re:Why Bother (Score:5, Informative)
Correct - usually these sites are targeted under a "facilitating [whatever]" type thing;
"Hij benadrukt daarbij dat er, volgens hem, niets grijs is aan illegale torrentsites en trackers. 'Zij faciliteren de inbreuk en de torrents zijn ook een onmisbaar bestanddeel van de inbreuk. Dat is onrechtmatig, en een strafbaar feit,'" - citing Tim Kuik, BREIN (kinda like the riaa and mpaa and whatnot rolled into one).
To translate..
"He stresses that, according to him, torrentsites and trackers do not operate in a gray area. 'They facilitate the infringements and the torrents are a necessary part of the infringement. That is unlawful and a criminal act,'"
So regardless of whether mininova hosts the data, or even hosts the torrent files, if BREIN so wishes, they can sue under Dutch law.. and they are suing (court case upcoming). Whether the judge will agree with BREIN is another matter - but realistically, he would, and the arguments would be more about what damages are to be awarded.
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Re:Why Bother (Score:4, Informative)
And I know it's difficult for you to comprehend, but it's possible, even likely, that I'm not an American, and that I haven't set foot in the USA in more than a decade. The closest I've been to the US in recent memory was a flyover while I was on my way to the Netherlands Antilles (CuraÃao) for a vacation in January.
When have I said it's about breaking copyright laws?
If you actually read what I said, you'll notice that I said that it's appearances that matter. Mininova is trying to appear as though they are trying to help the copyright holders keep their rights, by removing copyrighted material when asked, and by trying to develop a filter. How effective that filter turns out to be is completely irrelevant. TPB responded to takedown requests by laughing at them and posting them publicly.
In other words, Mininova is trying to appear as though they are inhibiting the infringement, whereas TPB was trying to appear as though they were facilitating it. It's got nothing to do with whether or not the site itself is infringing on copyrights by linking torrents, and everything to do with how the site reacts to requests from copyright holders.
And appearances are all that matters. Mininova could implement a completely innefectual filter, but from having put it there in the first place, they can still claim that they're trying to help, and escape the kind of punishment that TPB has earned.
While I prefer not to flame, I feel I should point out that if you want any credibility, it helps to actually read what the person you're replying to is saying. This being Slashdot, however, I can forgive you for not doing so.
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"I don't intend to flamebait but seriously, the world doesn't spin around the US."
From what I've read many Swede's feel that Swedish copyright law is such to appease foreign corporate companies. Gee, I wonder where all those software companies are based? No, the world doesn't spin around the U.S. Unfortunately it does spin around large corporations.
And please, don't think you know the American public based on your small experience. We are hardly a homogeneous people.
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The trials take/took place in different countries, which naturally don't hold the same laws.
He was pointing out the differences in the defense put forth by each, not the difference in the laws of the country in which the trial took place.
His point stands, I think. A big "Fuck you guys" is gonna get you on the shitlist of pretty much any judge, court, or (probably) jury.
Re:Why Bother (Score:5, Insightful)
His point stands, I think. A big "Fuck you guys" is gonna get you on the shitlist of pretty much any judge, court, or (probably) jury.
I'm sorry, you're wrong. The attitude of the person has to be kept separate from the crime commited. The crime must be treated unbiased. The law doesn't say "It's illegal to break copyright laws, and if you're a bit of a middleman it's illegal if you have a nasty attitude, otherwise it's ok". In Sweden (which I guess differs from the states in this sense as you seem to think that everything works as it does in the US) you should be able to flip off the judge and shit on his desk if you want. You'll get sentenced for indecent exposure but this should have absolutely no impact on the initial trial. That's called a fair trial.
Re:Why Bother (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sorry, you're wrong. The attitude of the person has to be kept separate from the crime commited.
It "has to"? Are you certain? Did you write those laws, or are you merely providing your opinion? Well, obviously you either have no understanding of the pragmatics of law, or you choose not to agree with the way laws are carried out. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it less true.
Pretty much every criminal trial encounters the word "remorse" at one point or another, which shows that courts do take attitudes into consideration.
Re:Why Bother (Score:4, Informative)
Have you ever heard of "mens rea"? A required element of almost every crime is a culpable state of mind of the actor. There's a huge difference between doing the actions required for a crime (like, taking someone's stuff) with a reckless state of mind, as opposed to a purposeful statement of mind. (Recklessness would be if one knows there's a good chance that the stuff they are taking doesn't belong to them; purposeful would be if one took the stuff because it didn't belong to them.)
For most crimes, negligence isn't a culpable state of mind. If you didn't know the stuff you took didn't belong to you, but a hypothetical "reasonable person" in your situation would have known it probably didn't belong to you, then you're negligent. But you didn't commit a crime. On the other hand, if you were reckless about it (and the prosecution can prove that beyond a reasonable doubt), then you did commit a crime.
The parallels to copyright infringement (if it's a crime and not just a civil cause of action) by torrent sites should be obvious. The Pirate Bay was clearly at least reckless - more likely, knowing, which is more culpable - where as mininova is probably trying to show that they were just negligent, and that their action in putting up a filter is an attempt to correct that negligence. The judge might interpret the filter as reducing their culpability from recklessness to negligence.
This is all based on American criminal law under the model penal code, not civil law, and not dutch law. IANAL, YMMV, infringement isn't stealing, etc.
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What world do you live in?
Listen, dude... if you ever end up in court, may I offer some advice? A haircut, clean shave, a nice suit, and a very respectful attitude toward the judge. Don't loose your temper.
Yes, until we invent some kind of robo-judge who rules the planet with an even-handed titanium fist, even judges have egos.
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The attitude of the person has to be kept separate from the crime commited.
Attitude yes, intent no. Particularly if the crime is "aiding and abetting", "conspiracy to", "facilitating", "economical gain" or similar. Lots of things that are otherwise legal would be illegal if you're doing them in relation to a crime. If an employee left the window open, that's not a crime. If an employee left a window open with the intent that his co-conspirators could break in through that window, it's a crime. There's a difference between being google and "Get your latest hollywood movies here" di
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Mens rea [wikipedia.org] , dude, look it up. Don't they teach basic civics in school anymore?
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You must have missed the verdict [arstechnica.com]. What TPB case showed us is that different countries' laws are pretty much the same after all. Some of us might like to think there's no international consensus on this, but there is.
Re:Why Bother (Score:5, Informative)
I think the Windows 7 Release Candidate was the only one
I'm too lazy to double-check, but I would be mightily surprised if MS had consented to unregulated 3rd party distribution of any version of windows. Just because MS lets people freely download it from their own servers, and possibly those of a handful of designated 3rd parties, doesn't mean they've given permission for just anyone to distribute it.
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I would be mightily surprised if MS had consented to unregulated 3rd party distribution of any version of windows. Just because MS lets people freely download it from their own servers, and possibly those of a handful of designated 3rd parties, doesn't mean they've given permission for just anyone to distribute it.
Most likely, especially since you still have a product key for the version of Windows 7 that you download. I'm making some assumptions here, but I'm guessing that you aren't issued a product key when you download Windows 7 via a torrent or an authorized 3rd party distributor. This would mean that Microsoft could technically go after torrent seeders as unauthorized distributors committing copyright infringement.
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Currently mininova - knowing full well the reason why people use their site - simply go by the strict laws.. if a copyright holder / representative tells them they're hosting particular copyrighted content, they'll take it down.
Well I'm curious what the law is in wherever-it-is-that-Mininova is filtered?
In the US, responding to takedown notices is all that's required, and there is no obligation ("good faith" or otherwise) to do more. My understanding is that the problem with TPB was that they didn't respond
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But now they can legitimately claim to be pussies and sheep led around by others, instead of people who believed in something and defied an unjust law, like the Pirate Bay team.
It makes them useless (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:It makes them useless (Score:5, Informative)
Well, I downloaded the latest Lost torrent from it yesterday without any problem (sorry, I can't wait until they decide to air it here in Europe), so the filter is apparently not very good.
Re:It makes them useless (Score:5, Informative)
FTA: Mininova co-founder Niek told TorrentFreak that the system will be tested for 12 weeks with only a few titles.
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Where in europe? :)
The latest Lost episode is on sky one this weekend. It's only a 3 day wait.
(not that I don't agree, I downloaded it too)
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So that move makes mininova useless for me (and presumably a lot of their users), because they plan to start removing the very content that I'm looking for. I realise they might still have their place, but I wanted t
Big Yawn (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Big Yawn (Score:5, Funny)
Biological weapon for a trebuchet.
Re:Big Yawn (Score:5, Insightful)
Mininova can not technically be an alternative to a Bittorrent tracker (like TPB etc.), since Mininova is not a tracker - it's just an indexed repository for .torrent files.
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Unless you turn off the uploading...
In the mean time I note that Mininova still has in excess of 200 seeds and leaches active on the Fallout 3 DLC released a few days ago. So that's some good anti-piracy filter.
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What in the hell's a "leach"?
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Last time I tried mininova it was pretty much the least usable of torrent sites, super slow. So I gave up on it a long time ago. Perhaps this is their attempt to regain relevance — the fearful can use them.
Re:Big Yawn (Score:5, Informative)
I know it's a wiki, but it's a carbon copy of the real lawbook, it's just the only page I could find that allows me to directly link to the article.
Let me translate something for you:
"Als inbreuk op het auteursrecht op een werk van letterkunde, wetenschap of kunst wordt niet beschouwd de verveelvoudiging welke beperkt blijft tot enkele exemplaren en welke uitsluitend dient tot eigen oefening, studie of gebruik van de natuurlijke persoon die zonder direct of indirect commercieel oogmerk de verveelvoudiging vervaardigt of tot het verveelvoudigen uitsluitend ten behoeve van zichzelf opdracht geeft."
Which you can translate loosly to:
"It is not considered copyright infringement if a copy is made solely for the purpose of own practice or study without direct or indirect commerical gain, and when the copy is only meant for himself".
If you want to read it yourself, here is a shoddy google translation: here [google.com]
In short, under Dutch law, it's legal to make copy's of copyrighted works (be it a movie, music or a piece of text), only if it's for yourself and does not give you a commercial gain. This rule was originally built to support people making back-up copies for them selves, but applies to the internet too. What you CAN'T do is upload copyrighted files (uploading = distribution), and this whole legal blurb doesn't apply to applications (uploading or downloading of software is both illegal).
Your turn.
Re:Big Yawn (Score:4, Insightful)
In the United States, yes. The Robed Nine wanted a way around a few irritating constitutional restrictions, so they reasoned that by brewing beer and drinking beer at home, you were impacting the market for commercially-produced beer and therefore were subject to regulation as a commercial beer producer.
(Really? No. The real case was about growing wheat, not brewing beer, and the subject was "interstate commerce", not "commercial". But the reasoning was the same.)
Whether the Dutch have followed that sort of tortured reasoning is another question, but I'm sure the US doesn't have a monopoly on it.
Alternative? (Score:2, Informative)
I use Mininova often, primarily to find torrents for two TV shows I watch regularly.
So the question is - what are the alternatives?
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Site requires invitations.
Re:Alternative? (Score:5, Informative)
Depends which category you fall into.
Personally, I use NNTP.
There are a few ways you can go here.
I use www.bitnabber.com - for the monthly fee, I get the NNTP service, but also access to the download library - verified Music/Movie/TV/Games/Anime downloads, with full info (source, quality, reviews,etc) - makes browsing for a movie to download a breeze. Also supports streaming on downloading (try doing that on a torrent..)
The other way is to get yourself a cheaper NNTP account: usenetserver.com / giganews.com are the best.
From there, you can trawl NZB sites to get the NZBs for what you want to download.
There are some good ones out there, the best being newzbin.com - but it's invite only, hence why I went w/ the top option.
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Astraweb has a pay per download service that suits me better. $25 for 120gb lasts me ages. When the GBP/$ exchange rate was good, this worked out the cheapest option for me. Today I pay about 70p for a DVDR. Today it takes about 35 mins from start to finish to download. 3 years ago, on my very old PC, it would sometimes take longer to extract
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Check out easynews before you commit to a NNTP provider.
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18.5mbit down on my 20mbit cable modem. CPU + memory issues keep the speed down. Joining hundreds of parts is stressful on the electronics.
As an uncle post said, check the alternatives. Some are more suitable than others.
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Personally, I use NNTP.
The first rule of USENET is ... oh, nevermind.
I use www.bitnabber.com
For yucks, I visited the site. Cute and friendly so I guess it would appeal to novice users. That said, the following caught my eye:
Reading the above I'm reminded of the way in which N
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astraweb is the best provider out there.
Unlimited transfer, really fast, 200 day retention, SSL, 20 concurrent connections, for US$11/month.
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Your ISP probably already provides a news feed [..]
Really?
How many ISPs actually have a feed set up, let alone anything more than just text.
I only know of a single ISP that provides a news server in the UK, that Virgin Media but I don't know anyone that trusts it.
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Virgin has nothing to do with it.
It comes in via Highwinds Media.
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(In Virgin's case they don't own the server, they contract it out to a third party who provides the feed. I doubt it makes any difference to how easily they can inspect the logs, though.)
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http://www.torrentz.com/ [torrentz.com]
Search engine for search engines :) Plus you get the tracker list for free :) (So even if TPB goes down, your torrent will run.)
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http://eztv.it/
You own me a beer.
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AFAIK, all of the major network's shows are available as free ad-supported Flash video on their respective websites or Hulu. (My computer is too old to run said video, sadly, so I still use downloads.)
Isn't that a bit like... (Score:3, Insightful)
... hiding the body after you've been accused of murder, hoping that you'll then not be convicted?
Re:Isn't that a bit like... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Isn't that a bit like... (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe they can download the video of him hiding the body from Mininova???
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Aye; I can just imagine the jury sitting there with their laptops, one half bemoaning the audio / video quality, and the others screaming "FOR FUCK'S SAKE, SEED!!!!!!!1" :)
Not very effective (Score:3, Informative)
Victory! (Score:5, Insightful)
In any event being able to bully torrent sites into submission through legal means isn't what I'm worried about. I'm much more worried about them coercing ISP's into their little self-regulation schemes, as if it's somehow an ISP's responsibility to protect Sony BMG's copyrights. It strikes me as being just as misguided as expecting the people who maintain our roads to be responsible for people smuggling drugs across the border. Sorry guys, if you want to cling to the old IP system in the information age you should be prepared to do all the hard work yourself. If you don't like it I'm sure we can come up with some new, fairer systems to try.
Or, you know, just bribe politicians until you get your way. I guess that works too...
It's kinda funny... (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.mininova.org/tor/2569928
This is one of their "featured torrents". It's called "How to bypass mininovas copyright filter". I'm mildly amuzed.
Featured torrents: (Score:5, Interesting)
Featured torrents:
"How to bypass mininovas copyright filter"
I've browsed through a lot of the comments (Score:2, Informative)
Well done for proving the RIAA / MPAA right, boys. You're a true help to the cause.
Re:I've browsed through a lot of the comments (Score:5, Insightful)
If I say that Google shouldn't have to actively search out and filter content (which they don't, nor do they have to by US law), does that mean Google is predominantly used for copyright infringement? I don't think so.
Your argument is a straw man anyway. I don't think anyone would deny that bittorrent is mainly used for copyright infringement, but the issues are whether search engines should be liable. Also consider that even though something is copyright infringement by law doesn't mean it is unethical - e.g., someone downloading something they already bought in another format, or a BBC licence payer in the UK downloading BBC produced content, and another example would be using it as a form of timeshifting, downloading a show you just missed on TV you pay for. Consider, in the UK it's copyright infringement to copy a CD you've bought onto your own mp3 player. So it would be accurate to say that "MP3 players are used almost entirely for copyright infringement" - however that's not really a fair statement, and doesn't mean people are downloading things they haven't paid for.
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also consider that even though something is copyright infringement by law doesn't mean it is unethical
That something may be called ethical doesn't make it permissible, nor does it mean that another perspective on that same issue is unethical. Your response to the straw man begs the question and implies a binary where none exists.
Property law isn't entirely about ethics--in fact very little law is. Instead, it's simply about balancing competing interests. Ethical conduct is the domain of criminal law and certain areas of administrative law. Most transactions aren't questions of ethics, and any ethical ju
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There's no ethical violation, per se, in "unlawful taking
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My point was that "groupthink" is pissed off because they can't get the tracker for XXXXXX copyrighted content from Mininova anymore. They're not whinging about freedom being curtailed, or their rights being oppressed, defending Mininova as "only linking, not hosting." One guy above talks about downloading Lost.
Where's your altruism now? Don't kid yourself, bub. We all know that BitTorrent can be used for legal purposes (WoW patching, iPlayer / 4oD content etc), but that most of it is for illegal fi
Sony v. Universal & Selection Bias (Score:3, Interesting)
Apparently BitTorrent is predominantly used for copyright infringement. Well done for proving the RIAA / MPAA right, boys. You're a true help to the cause.
According to the logic of Sony v. Universal, as long as the technology has substantial non-infringing uses, the creators won't be held liable for contributory infringement. That's under US law, of course.
Also, there's this thing called selection bias. [wikipedia.org] Or don't you think people who primarily use Mininova to download infringing material would be more likely to comment on an article that says Mininova is filtering infringing material?
Sheesh.
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Well done for proving the RIAA / MPAA right, boys. You're a true help to the cause.
But they are right in that regard... I mean, come on. Let's not kid ourselves. I think this is an example where people just make-believe that bittorrent is some sort of misunderstood technology that is just being painted negatively by some evil group of corporate baddies. Everyone uses bittorrent to pirate media. I am sure some Freetard will pop on and say "I only use it to download linux distros and Creative Commons licensed music"-- but I guarantee you this douche is in the minority.
There is no misunderst
Are there any torrents left? (Score:3, Insightful)
I guess the open source stuff will still be there, and any software that is in the public domain. How about those e-books that are nowhere else to be found, except on torrents?
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I'm going to agree here. (Score:2)
It ceases to amaze me that a torrent site attempts to go legal and all I see comment-wise is a bunch of whines and complaints that Mininova will die.
I've realized in the last few years that I actually agree with people's ability to exercise their copyrights--and if I don't agree with the terms they set out for use of their content...I don't consume it.
I don't find alternate ways of obtaining it, I don't talk about it, and I definitely don't buy it. I'll use an alternative that is legal, or go without. It do
try bt.etree or legaltorrents (Score:3, Insightful)
There's bt.etree.org [etree.org], which shares live concert recordings of taper-friendly bands, and which tracks the shifting of petabytes each year. (It is, IMO, a much more useful site if you click on the "hide Grateful Dead and Phish" button at the bottom of the page, but opinions may vary.) There's also legaltorrents.com [legaltorrents.com] which specializes in creative-commons media. Neither one is going to have as much mainstream material as the illegal sites (that should go without saying), but etree, at least, has some fairly b
Mininova goes Supernova (Score:4, Insightful)
That will prove to be 99.9% of their traffic, and revenue... .....have you seen any ISOs around here lately?
well it was fun while it lasted, now on to the next one!
(crouches down as if on a hunt)
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Hmm, no, which is weird since I'm a complete junkie when it comes to BitTorrent.
Freenet? (Score:2)
Does anyone have any idea how difficult it would be to set up a tracker within freenet? Is there already a project anywhere trying to do this?
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Never mind Freenet for this, you could use I2P [i2p2.de] which also features in-network Bittorrent. Of course if you really want to only share the torrents with an anonymising network you'll need to do modifications but at least it'll be easier when you can use existing tracker software. TOR [torproject.org]'s hidden services would work as well I suppose.
Just hosting the tracker on one of these networks is an interesting idea. It wouldn't provide any protection for the downloaders and seeders themselves but if people aren't quite
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It seems to me... (Score:4, Interesting)
...that this is yet another opportunity to come up with a way of making a distributed lookup system part of the bit torrent spec. Sure, it wouldn't be as quick, but if your client can listen for other nearby clients and query them for a list of files that they've accessed (not just ones being seeded by them, but ones they've connected to recently or are currently connected to). I'm sure this would greatly limit the number of seeds you find, but with a proper system of distributed "well, I've heard this guy has this" and "I'm seeding this right now and I've transfered it to this guy who might also be seeding" and such would give you a fairly decent list of seeds that you can probably get a good speed to (since they're somewhat 'local'). This would have the benefit of not needing a search site, nor needing any centralized repository.
On the other hand if this worked and was really successful, the RIAA would just try to ban the protocol from ISP's.
Indexted DHT URI's only legit? (Score:4, Interesting)
I've often wondered if a list of indexed DHT URI hashes would be any stronger in court.
I figure at some point we will have sites that don't link to or have torrents but just indexed and categorized DHT URI links.
Encrypting solution for torrent sites... (Score:2, Interesting)
I think all torrent sites should 2-way encrypt all their search results (meaning the titles, descriptions, etc..) and put a statement up that says decrypting is not allowed. Then have "hackers" make a firefox addon that automatically decrypts the text on torrent sites. Everybody (except MIAA/RIAA) starts using the addon. The MIAA/RIAA can't use the addon because that would violate their own laws can be sued for breaking encryption.
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I prefer Hulu (Score:2)
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A critical error on their part, imho.
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In addition to what the other reply said, it doesn't work outside the US.
Private sites are better anyway (Score:3, Informative)
Why expose your IP address by using a public tracker found on Mininova? It's just asking for trouble. Plus, the invite-only sites almost always have much better transfer speeds because ratio matters.
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1) I'd never join a group which would have me for a member.
2) Being a member of an invite-only site makes me a target.
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