'Star Wars' Franchise Crosses $4 Billion, Eclipsing Disney's Lucasfilm Price (hollywoodreporter.com) 187
Combined, Disney and Lucasfilm's Star Wars: The Last Jedi, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story and Star Wars: The Force Awakens have surpassed $4.06 billion in ticket sales at the worldwide box office. That's more than what Disney paid to buy George Lucas' Star Wars franchise. From the Hollywood Reporter: While an interesting benchmark, it doesn't, of course, account for the hundreds of millions spent to produce and market the trio of films, or the fact that Disney splits box-office grosses with theater owners. Conversely, Disney has minted additional money from lucrative ancillary revenue streams, merchandising sales and theme park attractions. Opening in North America on Dec. 15, The Last Jedi zoomed past the $900 million mark on Thursday, finishing the day with $934.2 million globally, including $464.6 million domestically and $469.6 internationally (it doesn't land in China until Jan. 5). The sequel to The Force Awakens was directed by Rian Johnson, and has dominated the Christmas corridor. The Last Jedi will jump the $1 billion mark over New Year's weekend on its way to becoming the top-grossing 2017 release, eclipsing the $1.264 billion earned by fellow Disney title Beauty and the Beast. In December 2015, filmmaker J.J. Abrams' The Force Awakens shattered numerous records on its way to grossing $2.068 billion globally, including an all-time best $936.7 million in North America, not accounting for inflation.
A movie with a message (Score:5, Insightful)
"We can film whatever we want, slap Star Wars on it and rake in the cash."
They're coasting on fumes (Score:3)
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The product isn't bad. I've enjoyed the movies, and I was never a Star Wars dork growing up.
And believe me, for my 8 and 6 year old, and the kids in their class, they are anything but "that funny little movie dad liked." Ditto for their older cousins.
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Oh, c'mon! You think the occasional stinker (even if this was, I don't know, the numbers speak more loudly than the critics) is going to cause a panic in the boardroom? I doubt the new tax bill eliminated those deductions...
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I thnk of tihs movie as the "Batman vs. Superman" step.
I won't be paying for the next movie unless my friends see it first and are raving about it.
This was a terrible movie.
Bad pacing, editing, meaningless storylines, change to a craptastic universe (where every choice you make is wrong), bad writing.
The acting was decent.
The look and feel was good.
It reminds me of the DCU and the Kelven Star Trek lines.
It destroys a ton of existing extended universe canon and even effectively destroys a fair amount of "mov
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It destroys a ton of existing extended universe canon and even effectively destroys a fair amount of "movie only" canon.
Are you talking about The Force Awakens or The Last Jedi? Because it was The Force Awakens that destroyed the EU.
Re:They're coasting on fumes (Score:5, Insightful)
The really bad casino people and freedom for the "horses".
Can an entire franchise be supported by more and more virtue signalling?
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How quickly you forget the original trilogy. It's always been the evil faceless Storm Troopers, the cute and native Ewoks struggling against the technologically advanced invaders, the immortal bounty hunter and slave owner getting their just rewards...
Anyway, those scenes served an important purpose. They set up the last film, the new rebellion made up of the oppressed who can see the injustice around them.
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But some General and Vice Admiral got to lecture the audience and cast.
As opposed to a puppet?
The really bad casino people and freedom for the "horses".
Yeah the whole casino sequence sucked. It really was the weakest bit of the film by far.
Can an entire franchise be supported by more and more virtue signalling?
Oh looks like you're virtue signalling to the anti-SJW crowd about how you hate all the right things. Does the reflected virtue fillyou with warmth?
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Explain Transformers, then.
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Apparently. I loved the original trilogy back when, but all this new, ahem, "stuff" leaves me entirely cold. No soul left, just bad storytelling, generic "Star Wars" decor and CGI demos. No, thanks.
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Oh, there was some bad storytelling back in the original trilogy.
"A New Hope" was apparently a total mess in the rough cut; some radical and brilliant editing that cut out Lucas's flat-footed exposition and created the quick pacing we remember that film for. Lucas was largely absent from the second installment and returned to deliver a disappointing Return of the Jedi.
Lucas has tried to blame the bad rough cut of New Hope on his first editor and take credit for the changes in the final theatrical cut, but
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Well, back then the Star Wars universe was fresh and that compensated for a lot and, as you say, editing saved a lot. I do agree that The Return of the Jedi fell short, I just did not know that George "Fuckup" Lucas was the reason. I had wondered why Episodes 4 and 5 were not affected so much by his lack of talent, but your explanation fixes that. Thanks!
Now, the universe is not fresh anymore at all and the new trilogy just copies earlier stuff and does handover to younger actors.
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This is the problem with franchises. It's the promise of the same thing over and over again that brings fans back, but you can't really have the same experience over and over again. What you have to do is open up new facets of the story, the way the Battlestar Galactica reboot did, but even that you can't do that indefinitely.
The problem isn't the universe, the problem is not having anything to add to it. I feel this way about steampunk novels. Using the standard tropes simplifies the writer's job, and
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I completely agree. On the book-side, it is not just steampunk, it affects every genre. Initially, even one of the "generic" ones may be fun, but after 2-3 you have seen it all and they become boring. Authors with original ideas and the talent to use them well are rare. And, unfortunately, authors with original ideas almost always seem to do significantly worse commercially that those producing generic re-hashes. Case in point: The Star Wars franchise seems to do very well commercially. Oh, well. At least w
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It really isn't true you can turn anything into a hit with marketing and branding. I think the truth is more like this: with a powerful brand, any reasonably solid installment is guaranteed to be a hit. That's why Disney wanted this brand.
But solid isn't the same as perfect. Anything as complex as a movie is bound to have plenty of flaws you can latch onto. When Disney bought this brand they didn't put it into the hands of complete hacks, they put smart people on it, and the mistakes are the kinds of m
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The saddest thing is Lucas got $4 billion MORE to be made to go away.
Yeah, well, where did the money really come from? Let's not blame people for being successful.
Re:A movie with a message (Score:4, Informative)
I'm honestly now not sure if JJ or Lucas is worse. George Lucas, for all his (myriad) faults was at least original. JJ took the original trilogy and just put it in a blender and hit frappe. What came out was Star Wars for millennials.
Empire vs Rebels
Empire/First Order vs Resistance
Force sensitive struggles to find himself on a journey to fulfill his birthright accompanied by cute droid.
Force sensitive struggles to find herself on a journey to fulfill her birthright accompanied by cute droid.
Evil shadowy overlord who in the past persuaded angsty rebellious jedi to betray the Jedi and destroy them, turning angsty rebellious jedi into evil sidekick.
Evil shadowy overlord who persuaded angsty rebellious jedi to betray the Jedi and destroy them, turning angsty rebellious jedi into evil sidekick.
Have to destroy death star in final battle to save rebel base.
Have to destroy death planet in final battle to save rebel base.
Yawn.
Sure, the more control Lucas got, the worse his films got. Hands down awful. But at least the stupidity was his. I have to give him that. What was JJ's excuse?
Re:A movie with a message (Score:4, Insightful)
Take, for example, the "mining ship" in Star Trek. No cargo hold for anything they mine, and a very impractical shape for anything that's doing mining. You can picture JJ in the boardroom, shouting "scarier, more menacing" and writing it in like a character. He ruined that when he wrote a hatch in dirt into Lost as a character. But the mining ship was stupid, for a mining ship. Every decision he makes is stupid, and designed to "entertain", not "tell a story". He should work for Cirque du Soleil. The other really stupid thing in Star Trek is the chase. Kirk is being chased by an instadeath. A larger creature (impractical for an ice planet), kills the creature and doesn't eat it. Picture a hunter out to kill a deer. It kills a deer. It notices the deer is chasing a mouse. The hunter ignores the deer he just killed, and chases after the mouse. That's the decision JJ made. It's stupid, and it ruins everything he touches.
Some like that, and endless lens flare, but, personally, I find his obvious and deliberate decisions to be stupid and distracting.
Re:A movie with a message (Score:5, Insightful)
Make weak males , Mary Sue females throughout the movies. Come on Luke Skywalker gets his ass beat by a girl who just a week later didn't even know what the force existed. Oh and she can lift more than Yoda with the force. So she is basically the most powerful Jedi after about a week.
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The Force, Jedi and Sith are three very different and distinct things - you don't need to be a Jedi or a Sith to be good in the force.
When are people going to accept that? Anakin was an exceptional pod racer because he was a powerful force user, but he wasn't a Jedi until later on.
Luke had fuck all training and yet it is accepted as a strong Jedi. He didn't go through an apprenticeship, had at most a few weeks of training with Yoda and yet apparently he's kick ass enough that being beaten by a girl who ha
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Rey fighting Kylo Ren to a draw was something I could accept as fiction. The stormtrooper Fin fighting Kylo Ren with a lightsaber for more than a millisecond before being cut in half is what I couldn't suspend my disbelief for.
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Ren was severely wounded during both of those battles, and Fin is a trained soldier who will have received hand to hand combat training - he was still having his arse kicked by Ren. Not that much of a leap, really.
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You are citing the producer's t-shirt as evidence?
When did Luke get beaten up by Ray? What movie were you watching?
Ray basically failed in that movie, she didn't convince Luke to do all that much and couldn't turn Ren from the dark side either. In fact Ren used her to make himself supreme leader. Some Mary Sue.
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It's Rey, you stupid twat.
Would you take someone's scholarly musings on Dickens seriously if he kept referring to "Nickolas Nickelby"? Actually, I doubt you'd notice.
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If you can't defeat the message, attack the messeneger.
At least it means that on a fundamental level you agree with AmiMojo and concede that his assessment was correct.
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That's a bit racist. And I thought he was a nip?
Not sure what logical system that's based on, but since you didn't deny that you're a complete waste of oxygen it means that on a fundamental level you agree with my assessment that you are one.
P.S. Bizarre coincidence, you turning up.
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That's a bit racist.
One thing I've noticed abut right-wingers is you all have serious trouble understanding basic words. "raist" is atually a speific word with a specific meaning, it's not simply a word meaning "stuff I don't like".
It's kind of like monkey see monkey do.
Speaking of monkey see monkey do, you've done a bit more:
but since you didn't deny
That's because until now it didn't come up. The big difference is that AmiMojo made a sound point and instead of addressing the point, you attacked the messe
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What movie were you watching?
The one that got covered in yucky girl cooties.
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That pretty much sums it up. The first three movies had less than 1 minute of dialogue by female characters other then Leia, who was damseled twice and the second time in a bikini. Now we have some movies with some women in better roles and it's an all out assault on men, an insult to the entire gender.
In fact thinking any it, Rey is the only female force user we have seen for more than a moment on screen. Maybe that's what the shirt is referring to, given the title of the first movie in the new trilogy.
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The first three movies had less than 1 minute of dialogue by female characters other then Leia, who was damseled twice and the second time in a bikini. Now we have some movies with some women in better roles and it's an all out assault on men, an insult to the entire gender.
Han Solo was literally Objectified. Luke needed saving on several occasions. Leia was always the leader. Her capture and display showed the depravity and barbarousness of the outer rim, it was a different place perfect for escapism. The franchise would have died in the 80's without it. The prequels showed women senators, queens, civilization in the Republic. The latest went back to the outer rim and we get...a high end casino with a police force that cares about parking regulations?
Let's look at the charact
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When did Luke get beaten up by Ray? What movie were you watching?
I believe it was right after Luke interrupted the finger sex scene. He walks away, she cracks him on the head with her staff, they tussle and she gets the best of him finally threatening him with the light saber. She beat up fricking Luke Skywalker. Because female.
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Anakin was super powerful, Luke was not. There's also the possibility that fewer Jedi makes each individual practitioner more powerful.
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Wait, you think you saw the whole mining ship? From the size of it (9,368.7 meters according to http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/... [wikia.com]), I'm thinking you barely saw the bridge in the movie.
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The rebel base facing eminent destruction was added with creative editing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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George Lucas was original? lolwut? He’s long admitted that Star Wars was highly derivative.
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JJ makes interesting movies. Lucas makes repetitive tripe.
Re: A movie with a message (Score:1)
The worst alternative it's not George Lucas doing the same thing. It's the more likely alternative that he would spend another decade just sitting on it doing nothing, and then releasing a couple new remasterings or anniversary cuts just for a payday. At least Disney is making new films.
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HUGE misconception and misunderstanding:
[Deluded defense of deus ex machina BULLSHIT redacted]
Deus ex machina BULLSHIT is still BULLSHIT.
Yes - midichlorians are a BULLSHIT deus ex machina contraption that solves nothing. Worse, they reduce the entire struggle in the Star Wars universe to a pissing contest between the genetically-chosen few.
Yoda's instruction of Luke in The Empire Strikes Back shows where this could have gone.
Instead Lucas reduced his universe to a series of conflicts between genetically-endowed Übermensch, no better in concept than Highlander II: The Quickening.
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> I don't think "deus ex machina" means what you think it means
He is using it properly. Although it's typical usage is a system to solve plots, that is not its only use, and today it basically means anything that you pull out of your ass and stick in the story.
> What they are is retcon.
I can be more than one thing.
All profit now? (Score:2)
Makes me wonder if Disney will reduce the amount of cash they put in from now on, while taking the profits from the next couple of movies.
Ticket Sales != Profit (Score:2)
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It appears the "break even" amount for this film was 800 billion dollars.
That is one huge marketing budget.
$4bn in ticket sales? thats very nearly $0 profit! (Score:2, Informative)
i bet all that money has evaporated somewhere to show a loss on the balance sheet seeing as Harry Potter, order of the phoenix took $612m across all formats but apparantly made a $167m loss
http://deadline.com/2010/07/studio-shame-even-harry-potter-pic-loses-money-because-of-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting-51886/
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Most of the money in the franchise is in toy licensing.
Get over yourselves (Score:5, Insightful)
I bought the comics. I had the toys. I read "Splinter of the Mind's Eye." I loved everything Star Wars.
Nevertheless.
People need to get over themselves. These movies are not the second coming of Christ. They are *never* going to be able to live up to fanboy expectations, so let those expectations go. See the movies, have a good time, enjoy the light sabers and the Falcon but stop getting so worked up about a 2.5 hours of popcorn fun.
Not worked up, just frustrated. (Score:3, Insightful)
There was a whole universe of non-Lucas Star Wars that was what made it enjoyable to me. They shit all over the intricately woven story spanning dozens of authors that had been wrought over the 15ish years that Lucas had sat idle before crafting another film, and between him and now Disney, have managed to shit all over those stories such that a fictional schism is the only way to resolve it, much like with the TOS vs TNG trekkies, those who were into the FASA/Starfleet Battles Klingons and assorted races,
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but for whatever reason, people seem to prefer to sheeple around the biggest assholes creative works, rather than banding together and forging their own
Because I have a life. I have a family. Kids. A job. I loved Star Wars as a kid, and enjoy it as an adult, but it's just some movies - Not a hokey religion.
Every year I go to a Star Wars movie and enjoy AT-ATs and Chewbacca and X-Wings and everything else and then I go back to my life. I few months later I buy the Blu-Ray and my kids enjoy it agai
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There was a whole universe of non-Lucas Star Wars that was what made it enjoyable to me. They shit all over the intricately woven story spanning dozens of authors that had been wrought over the 15ish years that Lucas had sat idle before crafting another film, and between him and now Disney, have managed to shit all over those stories such that a fictional schism is the only way to resolve it, much like with the TOS vs TNG trekkies, those who were into the FASA/Starfleet Battles Klingons and assorted races, versus those who followed TNG and company when they changed them into an almost unrecognizable race.
For hardcore fans both of these events were slaps in the face. As I have said previously, the only real way to work around it is to boycott both universes and collaborate on new sci-fi universes owned and controlled by the fans, with restrictions/gentlemen's agreements on who does what with which characters, and on what are acceptable worldchanging events to weave into storylines. The potential is there, but for whatever reason, people seem to prefer to sheeple around the biggest assholes creative works, rather than banding together and forging their own, even if they will band together and forge derivative works of other's proprietary works to the same degree of effort.
Wow.
You seem to take make-believe stories a bit too seriously.
Did you actually stuff "real way" into that fantastical rant? For some reason, I don't think reality intrudes too deeply into your life.
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Don't feel bad. The new movies also shit over the old movies, their choices, their ethics, and their fundamental character traits.
So they are not just attacking the books. (Disney pretty much just handwaved all that canon out of existence anyway.).
Won't be getting more of my money.
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Let's be honest here. The originals had bad dialogue and average acting. Yeah the effects were ground breaking at the time but the story itself isn't original either.
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The originals had Lucas' vision, and his ex Wife and some awesome editors to save it.
As lucas filmed it, it was a clunky piece of crap- but it was a diamond in the rough and as a group they made it something special.
The originals had the type of flaws every film has. Films are not reality. People rarely talk in reality like they do in films (not as quick witted for one thing- no second takes in real life either).
I agree entirely- the originals had bad dialogue and the acting was average. But there was c
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OMFG you precious entitled snowflake.
You can still enjoy all those stories.
The Expanded Universe was *never* the same level of canon as the films, and it would've been an idiotic decision on their part to be slavishly beholden to decades of EU stories. Do you actually think Lucas would've let new story ideas be rigidly boxed in by the EU if he had made these new films instead of Disney? Are y
Re:Not worked up, just frustrated. (Score:4, Insightful)
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I notice you didn't address the second point. "The Force is female"
That's because I don't know what you're talking about, Anonymouse Coward. I've only seen the movie once, but nevertheless I don't recall any dialogue talking about the gender of the force.
...and even if I did, I wouldn't care. The fact that a mythical made up fairy tale 'force' has a gender doesn't affect me, or any man, in any way. Feeling threatened as a man by something like this is ridiculous.
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and it would've been an idiotic decision on their part to be slavishly beholden to decades of EU stories.
Really? I realize that the EU stories were getting to the point of where the actors were currently aging too, but they still could have kept a lot of EU, declared the last few years of EU as non-cannon, and have kept most of it. I think that would have been a wonderful decision because then hardcore fans would have loved it all the more.
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They can if they want to, EU is available to writers as a resource.
(Same link as above)
I would love to
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It wasn't the plot that got me, it was the really bad (tactics/physics/etc) space battles. Star Wars practically defined impressive space battles. The latest one was... horrible. In ways avoided by earlier movies. Everything was done in 2D with spaceships effected by gravity. Dramatic concluding explosion with no forewarning that changed the in universe physics. The way that the bombs were released (in terms of the interior of the ship) made no sense.
Also, some of the "jokes" they threw into the dialo
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I actually meant the really horrific effect that the ships slowed down and listed/dipped (in the same direction!) as they were disabled. I don't really care about the bombs. I assume that they were just actively pushed down.
Yeah, in a stupid way that was unnecessarily delayed (wait until 2 other capital ships are destroyed and like 1/2 the small escape pods). And there are no hyperspace torpedoes. O
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Now...
How did the bombers suddenly appear next to the lead ship without being noticed?
Cloaked?
Okay- so the First Order has anti cloaking technology but doesn't use it when they are in battle.
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Looking at the rest... the bombs were rendered with gravity. it was dumb.
The bombers were like tissue paper compared to B-52's. Bombers are normally built tough. That's their role- to slowly approach the enemy and then drop bombs.
Tho to be honest- lack of missiles after 20 years of technological advance is a bit m
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Wait, you seem to have missed that this is Act 2. They were trying to pull an Empire Which had hope but was all setbacks for the heros.
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Why the fuck would you simulate the dropping of a bomb with artificial gravity when you could just fire it like a torpedo?
It's just another example of the stupidity of the writers and apparently the viewers.
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"Surely they can't literally mean bombers? That makes no sense in space!"
There's plenty of gravity in space. What do you think keeps the moon from flying away? And it's 250,000 miles out there.
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There's a reason you saw Star Wars in the theater 13 times in one year and you will be hard pressed to see The Last Jedi 13 times in the rest of your life.
Yes. In 1977 I was 10 years old.
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I put away 24 viewings of star wars in 18 weeks when i was 17.
Now I've put away viewing of star wars for as long as they continue in this direction.
Restart from this dystopic mirror universe kelvin star wars and return to the extended universe version.
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And what I'm saying is- if this movie was good, I'd be seeing it a dozen times over the next couple months in my 50's.
But crap is crap.
If anything- I'm hoping for early onset senility so I can forget this.
Fortunately, recent memories go first while long term memories stick around longer.
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So, I have to like the movie because it says "Star Wars" somewhere on the package?
No, you don't have to like the movie.
But you do have to get over the fact that it didn't live up to your expectations. It's just a movie. If you didn't enjoy it, stop watching them and go for a walk instead.
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This is only because they refused to use the material that was in the books, in the Expanded Universe.
How exactly was that supposed to work, Anonymous Coward?
The EU picks up not long after ROTJ. TFA was filmed 32 years after ROTJ.
Would you have a scroll that is ten minutes long explaining about Grand Admiral Thrawn and Jaina and Jacen (in their late 30s)? You'd have a 50 year old force ghost Mara Jade walking around with Leia?
That's nice and all (Score:1)
But that doesn't make these good movies.
I never thought I'd say it but I miss Jar Jar (Score:3, Insightful)
The Last Jedi apparently died in Return of the Jedi.
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These Disney Star Wars films are so focus group tested they've lost anything that made them special. Just like the recent Marvel movies, so incredibly tuned to maximize revenue across the widest cross section of people, they've become ... boring.
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No, not like the recent marvel films.
More in common with Kelvin star trek and DCU movies.
Marvel is very popular with the fans with consistently high audience ratings on all RT, MC, IMDB, and CinemaScore.
And, it's also pretty good to excellent with critics.
The critical ratings (and delay of ratings) for DCU movies and the critical ratings for the last jedi have me deeply suspicious that with a 500+ million dollar marketing revenue and the carrot of early access to the movie (and hence Youtube revenue) that t
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I would guess that the Marvel movies do well with the fans that still go to see them, as everyone else has tuned them out by now. They've got the formula finely tuned now - the people who were bored by them stopped going years ago, leaving just the hardcore fanbase.
With Disney's plan to crank out Star Wars movies at a rate of 1 per year, perhaps the Star Wars franchise will suffer the same fate. As long as they can crank out safe, derivative Star Wars movies for less than they'll bring in from their dedic
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The Last Jedi apparently died in Return of the Jedi.
I was watching Return of the Jedi with my six year old last night, and something that stuck out to me was when Yoda declared Luke the last Jedi. So if you take the phrase "the last Jedi" as a title then the movie title The Last Jedi works as a way to say "Luke Skywalkers Movie."
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Well, in the prequels, you got the bit about how there's always two Sith, a master and apprentice. They didn't say it, but with all the talk about balance, that implies there should be only be two Jedi also. So at the end of the prequels, we got just that - all the Jedi were gone except Obi-wan and Yoda, and we had two dark-side users, Palpatine and Vader. After this, it seems that things tend to head to this equilibrium. If it's too out of whack, the force will even go so far as creating powerful force
The expanded universe still exists. (Score:2)
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The Admiral Thrawn books by Zahn were simply spectacular.
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If the recent movies have left you dissatisfied go check out some of the novels from the expanded universe.
There were a few stinkers in the Expanded Universe, but I really enjoyed the majority of the novels.
Ticket revenue splits (Score:2)
How many times have I read that the reason for the very high food prices is that the theaters don't get keep revenue from the ticket sales? Is this not true? Have we been lied to and the reason the food prices are so high is simply that people will pay the absurd prices?
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This is one of the criticisms of the Disney/Fox merger, incidentally. It would give Disney control of roughly 40
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That deal isn't as good as it seems.
The day after christmas, with a parking lot full of cars, the 8pm showing of TLJ was practically empty.
Essentially Disney puts the movie in so many theaters that everyone who wants to see it, sees it the first few days.
This movie has zero reviewing potential among half the audience (they hate it), zero reviewing potential among another quarter to a third of the audience (they are casual and just don't care), and apparently 3-4 reviewings among youtube reviewers and 1-3 v
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I keep saying "I'm told" or "I've heard" - I'm getting all of this from a hazy memory of a conversation that I had with a friend of mine who worked as a projectionist. I'm just hedging in case someone comes alon
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How many times have I read that the reason for the very high food prices is that the theaters don't get keep revenue from the ticket sales? Is this not true? Have we been lied to and the reason the food prices are so high is simply that people will pay the absurd prices?
As an example, Regal Cinemas: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/e... [sec.gov]
Admissions (ticket sales) was $1,454M while Film Rental was $785M. So out of ticket sales, they kept slightly less than half. Concessions was "only" $553M. But the whole business, after all the expenses, made $175M. On $2,158M total revenues that's just 8%. So, yes, theatres turn a profit but at 8% they aren't exactly fleecing viewers with absurd prices.
ABC helps (Score:2)
The message of the last movie (Score:2)
Star Wars: The Worst Kind Of Franchise (Score:1)
Star Wars is only relevant because it's Star Wars. That's it. It's middling at best.
How much longer will we deny the fact that Empire is all there is? I didn't want to admit it to myself. History has proven Empire wasn't so much part of an excellent *series* as it was part of excellent resurgence in cinema of the late 70s early 80s, which gave us stone cold classics like Empire, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Blade Runner, E.T.
Bottom line: I have felt completely gipped leaving the theatre after episodes 1,2,3
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Bottom line: I have felt completely gipped leaving the theatre after episodes 1,2,3,6,7,8.
I didn't. Oh, wait, that's because I never watched any of them. When Episode 1 came out, I waited, saw what people were saying about it, then didn't go. Most of what I know about Episode 1, I learned from that Weird Al song. No Jar Jar, no annoying little kid, no recycled "it's yet another death star all over again" plots, no SJW bullshit. I've heard that 2 and 3 weren't as bad as 1, but I'll pass.
I still like the original trilogy, but mostly the first movie, which is rough but fun. And I don't go out of m
just like the star trek reboots (Score:2)
I imagine there will be a huge splash and a instant halt with the modern take on interesting movies meshed with modern visual and audio noise that tires easily
I just cant stand any modern action movie, its just an assult of noise on every sense the medium allows, and there's nothing to take away form it other than how shit the local cinema's sound system is along with low FPS flickery blury shit video
LUCAS'S WIFE ONLY RECUT ONE SCENE! (Score:1)
This rumor that has been spread online about A New Hope being some disaster, that was only saved by Marcia Lucas coming to the rescue and re-editing into a classic film is FALSE.
As Lucas was shooting the film in England and Tunisia, an assembly edit was done by an editor. Lucas didn't get to see it, as he was shooting every day and seeing only dailies at night. That was typical of film making in those days, as the film had to go to a lab and be processed before it could be seen or cut. When shooting was
Smoking (Score:2)
I did not see this particular Star War movie, but i doubt that it is a cinematographic art. Frankly, I think it is a set of dorky cliches for kind of naive children and adults.
I may be wrong, but it is my impression.
SJW Wars (Score:1)
A new meme for snowflakes is born as the franchise dies
Duh, it's profitable (Score:2)
Repeat what Mark Hamill said.... A good movie isn't one because of it's content but rather from it's box office profits.
God has blessed that man. In the future he is going to make millions for a days work just by being a force Ghost.
Why even bother discussing this crap (Score:2)
Disney has minted additional money from lucrative ancillary revenue streams
Disney is a huge toy company that uses really expensive movies to promote their stuff. The Porg creature is a good example, how much money they are going to make from this character alone.
Translated (Score:2)
In other words, nebulously defined value passes arbitrary round figure; no actual story here.
He should have charged more. (Score:2)
Might be downhill from here (Score:2)
The Last Jedi sucked. It really sucked bad in every way. The entire mythos has been ruined. All the characters I cared about have been ruined. And the new feminist crapfest has not come up with anything compelling.
I have watched every Star Wars, in theaters, since the first Star Wars in 1977. I doubt I will every watch another. I don't care what happens any more.
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Those links don't seem to work. Did you type them correctly?