Within Next Five Years Your Pizzas Will Probably Be Delivered by Autonomous Cars, Domino's Pizza CEO Says (thestreet.com) 210
In an interview with The Street, Domino's Pizza outgoing CEO Patrick Doyle said in three to five years at the earliest he expects driverless cars and voice orders to shift the way the world orders pizza. From the report: "We have been investing in natural voice for ordering for a few years. We rolled that out in our own apps before Amazon launched Alexa and Alphabet launched Google Home...[and] we are making investments...to understand how consumers will want to interact with autonomous vehicles and pizza delivery," Doyle said.
Saw it first on Black Mirror (Score:2)
title says it all
Title schmitle (Score:5, Informative)
This is /.; don't trust the title.
The title says "Within Next Five Years Your Pizzas Will Probably", while the actual quote was "in three to five years at the earliest". That's two very different statements.
Either the editor can't read, or makes deliberately false statements in order to gain clicks.
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Are "clicks" cryptocurrency?
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LOL!
It's not the first time a /. title fails or is modified for effect. In this case at least they used "probably", so they can get away with anything because that word turns everything speculative.
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Probably not in five years. More like ten. But when automated delivery does come about, it'll probably be done by three or four wheeled electric "motorbikes" that won't give up your pizza without a credit card swipe or scanning currency into their "vault". While being run into by one of those things won't be a lot of fun, it probably won't be like being run over by a car.
Re:Saw it first on Black Mirror (Score:5, Insightful)
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Sure. And I'd like to be able to buy a dumb TV that didn't take 20-40 seconds to come to life when turned on then present me with an incomprehensible menu. Guess what. "THEY" have decided that I don't really want/need that so they aren't going to make it.
THEY will likely decide that you need the exercise of walking out to the curb to get your dinner.
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Sure you can buy a "dumb" TV. It's called a monitor.
If you don't have cable, just hook it up to an external HDTV tuner with HDMI-out.
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ATSC tuner--
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c... [bhphotovideo.com]
4k monitor, 42"--
https://www.newegg.com/Product... [newegg.com]
So I have to walk out and not have it at the door? (Score:5, Informative)
So I have to walk out and not have it at the door? I may as well pick it up or better yet pay more for better pizza at some other place.
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So your logic is that if you have to walk 20 feet, you might as well walk 20 feet, get in your car, drive for 10 minutes, walk another 20 feet, wait around for them to bring the pizza out, walk another 20 feet back to your car, drive another 10 minutes, and then walk another 20 feet?
Re:So I have to walk out and not have it at the do (Score:5, Interesting)
I think the logic is rather that if I ask for delivery, I want delivery. If Domino's does not provide this, I'll order from someone else who does.
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This. When I ask for delivery I mean for someone else to bring it to my door. I don't want to leave the house. In other words, I don't want to get dressed, put on shoes and walk out to the curb.
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Or, if you're living in an apartment complex, get dressed, wait for an eternity for the damn elevator, spend another eternity in said elevator, pick up the pizza, go through the elevator ritual again, find out that you forgot your door keys inside...
I prefer to have the pizza guy do the elevator dance.
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Drones and pizza delivery are a match made in haven. I believe good drones have a 24 km endurance. That should be perfect for pizza delivery.
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Or you could build drone-only pizza kitchens in more places to cover all the area within the range of drones. Since a kitchen is almost always the smallest area occupied within a regular restaurant, it would cost a lot less to operate. There's probably savings to be made on permits and other things, too.
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In other words, I don't want to get dressed...
So you answer the door naked when you order pizza?
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Umm... yeah.
Thinking about it, I did consider it odd that the delivery guy tipped me instead of me tipping him last time...
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I have. Your point?
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So you answer the door naked when you order pizza?
No, but I may be in my humble PJs. And it might be -20 outside, or raining sideways. And my driveway is long.
Or, I may be on crutches, in which case getting a pizza from the curb to the kitchen table is rather challenging.
In any case, I'd rather pay someone willing to do it a tip.
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This. When I ask for delivery I mean for someone else to bring it to my door. I don't want to leave the house. In other words, I don't want to get dressed, put on shoes and walk out to the curb.
I'm sure they'll find a market without you. Like back when I didn't own a car or when I've had a few beers. For me it's more the "fit for socializing" aspect, like if I haven't showered, haven't shaved, hung over, dirty/sweaty clothes and just want to chow down a pizza in front of the TV or PC. Personally I'd rather get my slob ass down to the curb with zero social interaction than greet the pizza delivery guy like that, in fact I might just opt for a frozen pizza instead. A small physical discomfort becaus
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Personally I'd rather get my slob ass down to the curb with zero social interaction than greet the pizza delivery guy like that,
It's nice that you live in a place with no neighbors at all. Otherwise, you cannot guarantee "zero social interaction". You're going to the curb, and there are people driving by in cars -- some of them you might know. All of them will see you at your, umm, best? If you are in an apartment building, you could run into any of your neighbors, even the cute girl you're trying to hit on.
With to-the-door delivery, you know the social interaction you will have. One person, who you are paying, and unless your frie
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I'm sure they will do just fine with out my patronage. An so will I. It is not like domnos is the only game in town for pizza delivery. Plus its not like delivery is the only option I have. Good thing about having other drivers in my household that I can tell to go get me a pizza. So there are plenty of options for pizza with out leaving the house.
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"If Domino's does not provide this, I'll order from someone else who does."
Doesn't matter to me. If I want a Pizza I sure won't order one from Domino's not even if they'd drone it beside my lazyboy.
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If I want pizza I also wouldn't call Domino's. But from time to time I order there and get that ... whatever food that is they are delivering.
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So your logic is that if you have to walk 20 feet, you might as well walk 20 feet, get in your car, drive for 10 minutes, walk another 20 feet, wait around for them to bring the pizza out, walk another 20 feet back to your car, drive another 10 minutes, and then walk another 20 feet?
It what twisted Escher world or yours is the the front do of an apartment on the 10th floor of a building no more than 20 feet away from where an automated vehicle will drop off he pizza that you ordered?
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Its almost like we have multiple communities and cultures, and something that works for one might not work for all.
Also, maybe having autonomous delivery doesn't mean drivers no longer exist. Like a gradual rollout to the areas that make the most sense, and leaving people to do the apartments.
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Its almost like we have multiple communities and cultures, and something that works for one might not work for all.
Do you mean the sort of thing take totally invalidates hipp5's absolutist statement?
Also, maybe having autonomous delivery doesn't mean drivers no longer exist. Like a gradual rollout to the areas that make the most sense, and leaving people to do the apartments.
Funny how TFA has this quote:
Will people come out of their homes and apartments to get the pizzas, what do we need to do to make that process seamless. You have seen some of our work public on that. We want to be at the forefront.
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So I have to walk out and not have it at the door? I may as well pick it up
To be clear, are you one of those self-centred people who live directly opposite a Dominos and still orders takeaway? If so your comparison is quite silly.
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To be clear, are you one of those self-centred people who live directly opposite a Dominos and still orders takeaway?
He's probably one of those self-centered people who figures if he's paying delivery prices he deserves actual delivery and not "pretty close". He probably also thinks that if he's got to get presentable to go out in the weather to get his pizza, he might as well go someplace good.
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Sometimes I think I have strayed a bit much from the path of wisdom, and become a little too much of a lazy bastard. And it's the worst, when we're thinking about "grubhubbing," usually because I'm too impaired to cook or drive.
Then I get on the Internet, read stuff like this, and feel a lot better. On an absolute scale, I consider myself to be a wreck of an irresponsible, underachieving, criminally-lazy dimwit. But relatively, I feel downright smug! Meet the driver out front!? That's no problem at all! T
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Exactly this. I ordered in because I don't want to go out. Its cold. Id have to get layered up, put on boots to trudge through the snow around the building to the parking lot. Whereas you will be parked in front of the wrong building.
I will order from someone else.
Note to all, I do tip well especially if the weather is crappy.
Exactly... the rare occasions when I order pizza are usually when the weather is crappy, and I don't want to go out myself. If people have to go outside in pouring rain, etc. to get their pizza, orders will probably plummet during bad weather.
In fact, I'd rather get in my car (in the attached garage), drive the one block to the pizza place, and sprint inside to do my business if it's pouring rain, not stand outside fiddling with a machine and getting soaked.
Doubt it - desperate people power food delivery (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Doubt it - desperate people power food delivery (Score:4, Funny)
Quick, someone call the CEO of the pizza chain with 11,000 stores and tell him he's making a huge mistake! He needs to see OP's post ASAP so that he can take its lesson on pizza economics to heart and avoid making a grave mistake on his company's future.
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Take a look at this then get back to us:
https://biz.dominos.com/web/public/franchise
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=franchise
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You're assuming that the CEO is truly interested in autonomous vehicles, and not just chasing the latest trend just to get some free publicity for his brand.
Re:Doubt it - desperate people power food delivery (Score:4, Interesting)
I wonder if someone will take up the banner and provide a food delivery service for many restaurants, so that each store doesn't have to buy their own vehicles. Oh wait... https://www.ubereats.com
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I wonder if someone will take up the banner and provide a food delivery service for many restaurants, so that each store doesn't have to buy their own vehicles. Oh wait... https://www.ubereats.com/ [ubereats.com]
Or Grubhub and countless other businesses. Hell, we had something like that 25 years ago when I was a little kid. It's not at all a new concept.
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Fast forward to today, people are willing to take on the expense and liability of using their ow
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Like the Uber and Lyft cab companies?
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Part of the reason delivery works today is that shops rely on people desperate enough to try to make tip money as drivers during slow hours
What is wrong with America that you have to tip for a company to survive. Also having worked for a Pizza joint for 3 years ... you pay for your own gas, and WTF don't you get a company car with advertising? What the heck is wrong with you.
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In the US dominos uses the car of the employee. They pay the employee X per mile for gas and maintenance. Most small mom and pop pizza joints also use the employee cars, same with most chinese restaurants. Very few delivery places in the US own their own vehicles.
His AI follows the axiom: Garbage Out, Garbage In (Score:2)
What they want vs. reality (Score:2)
to understand how consumers will want to interact with autonomous vehicles and pizza delivery
I'm betting they want free pizzas to be delivered to thier door by a sexy robot who got there in an autonomous car. I'm also guessing the autonomous car loaded with fresh pizza at night in many neighborhoods will fare about as well as that new 5th grader who wet his pants during his introduction to home room class.
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Reminds me of a Shadowrun RPG dialogue.
Dwarf: Who you calling?
Troll (on the phone): Domino's.
Dwarf: What? Why?
Troll: Well, I'm hungry, you need a car, that kills two birds with one stone.
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Autonomous cars across US in 5 years? (Score:2)
There are some promising advances, but it seems optimistic to believe that there will be vast fleets of fully autonomous cars operating throughout the US within 5 years. Only a minority of conventional cars have anything like a self-drive mode.
Besides, Domino's is shit pizza, shittier as pizza than Taco Bell is as Mexican food.
The legions of local pizza places will still depend on stoners with aging Hondas and legions of fools with expensive cars desperate to do anything to make their car payments.
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They can't make an automated sink that works reliably. I'm not holding my breath on cars. Sure they work with an engineer babysitting them. But how about after 2 years of pizza shop maintenance. Will a single sensor on them still work right? I think not.
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I would guess it'll go like chip making technology. Basically all the players own at least some patents that all the other players need (or at least really want) so they all license them to each other. If your R&D did really well, you own more (or better patents) you make some money off this process, if your R&D didn't luck out, it costs you some money. But it doesn't really stop anyone getting access to anuything
Autonomous cars? (Score:3)
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Indeed, why does it have to be cars? It's not like a pizza is a huge item that weights a lot either.
Pizza delivery by drones? Much better solution IMHO. Bypasses all the traffic, goes in a straight line to the customer.
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Nothing like air-cooled pizza.
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You do know about insulated pizza bags, right? And the bag itself would probably be inside an insulated compartment as well.
Delivery by Dalek is superior (Score:2)
Essentially a mobility scooter with an insulated cylindrical body of pizza-diameter, with slide-out drawers, a card reader and a cell phone. Throw on some standard lights for road safety.
The thing drives itself to your door, calls you on your phone to advise it has arrived, and when you put your payment card in the reader the drawer(s) with your pizza(s) slide open.
Easy-peasy.
HAH! (Score:2)
Like I eat Domino's pizza.
The Deliverator (Score:2)
I want my pizzas delivered by a Deliverator under the watchful eye of Uncle Enzo.
https://101books.net/2013/02/0... [101books.net]
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I must admit I'd rather that the pizzas were delivered to someone a few blocks away, while I just watched. The collateral damage from actually getting pizza this way is a bit much
Not happening (Score:2)
First, you'd need to have a vegan pizza on the menu - and I'm not talking about vegetables as topping. Probably won't happen before another decade.
Second, you'd need to open a Domino's Pizza in my small town of 10K people. Never going to happen.
Third, autonomous cars are a lie from the industrial military complex controlled by the covfefe flat earthers.
Yeah... but. (Score:2)
That doesn't mean you won't still need a delivery person inside the car. When I order pizza at a dorm or a hotel and any multi tenant building , I'm generally not interested in going outside and finding the car to get the pizza from it.
Second opinion (Score:2)
Domino's CEO has an interesting opinion, but I really want to hear what the CEO of Domino's insurance company thinks of the proposal.
No more paying by cash (Score:2)
Though I suspect most people don't pay for pizza with cash anyway.
I can't help but wonder, though, which is cheaper:
Workman's comp for drivers who get robbed, or repair bills for self driving cars that get vandalized.
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Well, it is not. But I have to admit I will buy the dough these days and pre-rolled, because it is much less of a mess. I also like some of the newer deep-frozen ones, they have gotten pretty good, at least here.
First misread that as "Autocannon" (Score:2)
Why yes, I'd like a Marauder to shoot it thru my front door, so I won't hafta go outside.
Dunno how the pizza will fare, tho
Unlikely (Score:2)
As the mom and pop pizza places I order from still don't even have computers.
Why the fuck would I want that? (Score:2)
That means I have to walk down to the street to get my pizza from a car.
It's a better service when it's delivered to my door. Especially if it's raining.
Next step: Bake it at your door (Score:2)
The would be only reasonable. The raw product is refrigerated or frozen anyways. Just make it so that it is just ready when arriving. While I am eating either high-quality deep frozen pizza or making my own, I would try that.
I'd like to know.. (Score:2)
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A gram. Two if he's cute.
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Plus delivery boy?
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Sorry, if I'm not making my own pizza, I'm going to order from someone who makes good pizza.
And Domino's ain't that.
Given that Domino's revenue was almost $2.5 billion in 2016, it seems like many people don't agree with you, or they do and just don't care.
Re:Sounds right ... (Score:4)
Domino's pizza is just a little better than a frozen pizza. Yes, there are better pizzaria's, one of them is right down the road. Problem is they don't deliver, and are not open at 11 PM.
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You mean there will finally be a chance that the pizza is still hot when it arrives? Now THAT would be a change I could get behind!
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Would you want one of those American autonomous cars instead?
Careful what you wish for, this could be your car this one has to park behind...
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I fail to see the big change. Whether some pizza delivery guy is driving to me or the sans-delivery guy autonomous car, it does not generate an additional vehicle on the road. Without my pizza, the delivery guy's car is not on the road.
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It depends. Suppose the savings from not having a driver allows the delivery company to have 2 vehicles on the road instead of one.
Or suppose, right now that I drop my kids off at school on the way to work. It works, but the timing isn't ideal and its not exactly on the way. In the future I can send the kids in an autonomous car, which will drop them off and then drive home empty. I can leave for work directly on my own (overlapping) schedule.
drivers also do inside work when not on the road (Score:2)
drivers also do inside work when not on the road. Still the cost of owning cars is lot more then paying $1 a run to the drivers.
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Hmm... that pizza box could work as fuselage with a lifting factor, maybe you'd need some wings and a cheap way to power it...
Well, thinking about it, the F4 was less aerodynamic, it just could work.
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That problem has already been solved [wikipedia.org].
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In fact, all food can be gelatenous white goop that is textured and flavored to perfection. Yum! The best thing is that it wouldn't be all that different than the quality of pizzas delivered to your door currently. Or McDonalds delicious food-like product.
If the goop could be delivered by some type of plumbing system, then slow, pesky, inefficient humans would never need to leave their domestic units. Doors and windows could be removed. There
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No, some cretin would figure out how to install a virus in your 3D printed pizza, maybe it generates hard pellets upon which you could break a tooth. And there's nothing wrong with McDonalds that isn't wrong with Velveeta Cheese Food (apparently it cannot be called cheese, which is convenient since no one has ever called it cheese).
"gelatenous white goop"...Mmmmmmm...pizza flavored Jello!!
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Or: ((Jello flavored pizza) flavored Jello)
As for McDonalds and Velveeta, the gelatinous cheese-like substance that McDonalds serves certainly tastes better than Velveeta's gelatinous cheese-like substance.
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Those robots are not cheap to buy or maintain.
Actually, they are cheap. Most cars already have power steering and braking, so no new actuators are needed. Just some cameras and some software. Software has a high NRE, but near zero marginal cost.
5 megapixel cameras cost less than $5 each. Beginning on 1/1/2018, rear facing cameras are mandatory on all new cars, so only the front and side/oblique cameras are an additional expense.
Lidar is expensive (~ $5000 per car) but it isn't necessary. Waymo uses it, but Tesla does not. The cost will likely drop
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Those robots are not cheap to buy or maintain.
Actually, they are cheap. Most cars already have power steering and braking, so no new actuators are needed. Just some cameras and some software. Software has a high NRE, but near zero marginal cost.
5 megapixel cameras cost less than $5 each. Beginning on 1/1/2018, rear facing cameras are mandatory on all new cars, so only the front and side/oblique cameras are an additional expense.
Lidar is expensive (~ $5000 per car) but it isn't necessary. Waymo uses it, but Tesla does not. The cost will likely drop a lot with mass production.
Self driving capability will add between 0% and 10% to the cost of a car.
Let's break this down a bit further to find the justification here:
Cost of each autonomous car: $25K (assuming your estimates only increasing the cost slightly) x number of cars (5) per location: $125K
Annual vehicle costs (maintenance, fuel/electricity, etc.): this varies depending on type of car (EV vs. IC), but I'd estimate $15 - 25K for each. These vehicles will be driven damn near every single day in stop-and-go city traffic. Total annual vehicle costs: $75 - $125K
Now, let's not forget about the inevi
Adaptive cruise control, forward collision avoidan (Score:2)
but brakes are still mechanical and will continue to be so for the forseeable future due to FMVSS requirements. {...} Yes, I am aware there are cars with electric brakes that can stop themselves... just wanted to clear up that "most" is more "a special few".
And due to the high popularity of adaptive cruise control (ACC) and forward collision avoidance systems (FCAS), the "special few" is becoming "quite a big percentage of the cars present on today's street".
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Also, D
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I think what we need here are robots to order the pizzas and then some other robots to eat it for us. It's a bit like the Electric Monk in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, it believes things for us.
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Exactly. At one point did we decide our economy exists to serve machines and not us?
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>Weren't we all promised cool, sleek, aerodynamic FLYING CARS?
Even just a year or two ago, it was upscaled quadracopters to move humans.
Apparently, somebody eventually did the math on energy consumption, the utility analysis on the ability to get from a->b under various common conditions, and the insurance costs of having urban skies full of flying metal just waiting to become kinetic energy weapons.
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Yeah this is not the case in the US. Most pizza delivery is done by car in the US.