As More Retailers Ban Paper Money, It's Making Things Awkward For Customers Without Plastic (wsj.com) 698
An anonymous reader shared a report: Sam Schreiber was mid-shampoo at a Drybar blow-dry salon in Los Angeles when someone from the front desk approached her stylist with an emergency: a woman was trying to pay for her blow-out with cash. "There was this beat of silence," says Ms. Schreiber, 33 years old. "She literally brought $40." More and more businesses like Drybar don't want your money -- the paper kind at least. It's making things awkward for those who come ill prepared. After all, you can't give back a hairdo, an already dressed salad or the two beers you already drank. The salad chain Sweetgreen has stopped accepting cash in nearly all its locations.
Most Dig Inns -- which serve locally sourced, healthy fast food -- won't take your bills either. Starbucks went cashless at a Seattle location in January, and at some pubs in the U.K., you can no longer get a pint with pound notes. The practice of not accepting cash has become popular enough to catch the attention of American lawmakers. [...] Despite the popularity of debit- and credit-card transactions, plenty of people do still pay for things with actual money. Cash represented 30% of all transactions and 55% of those under $10, according to a Federal Reserve survey of 2,800 people conducted in October 2017.
Most Dig Inns -- which serve locally sourced, healthy fast food -- won't take your bills either. Starbucks went cashless at a Seattle location in January, and at some pubs in the U.K., you can no longer get a pint with pound notes. The practice of not accepting cash has become popular enough to catch the attention of American lawmakers. [...] Despite the popularity of debit- and credit-card transactions, plenty of people do still pay for things with actual money. Cash represented 30% of all transactions and 55% of those under $10, according to a Federal Reserve survey of 2,800 people conducted in October 2017.
Legal Tender (Score:5, Insightful)
For all debts, public and private.
Leave it on the counter and walk out.
Re:Legal Tender (Score:5, Informative)
http://theconversation.com/if-... [theconversation.com]
Re:Legal Tender (Score:5, Informative)
I'm the OP, and I absolutely agree with you. However, TFS posited a situation in which the debt is already incurred.
Re:Legal Tender (Score:4, Informative)
It is if they accept cash. The Federal Reserve [federalreserve.gov] says:
"all United States money as identified above is a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law which says otherwise."
Re:Legal Tender (Score:5, Interesting)
But their bank is FDIC insured. If they refuse cash the bank MUST revoke their status for transfers meaning their credit card clearinghouses can deposit the transactions.
Back in the 90s when we got paid in the military, before days of direct deposit, banks tried to refuse to cash checks if you didnt habe an account. I had 5 or 6 banks GROVELING once I started the process of revoking their FDIC for refusing to cash a governement check. Think they wont fire a customer to keep their FDIC status? Think again.
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if they provided goods or services FIRST, then you owe a debt.
Did you both sign a contract including all terms and conditions for the debt you have? If not then you aren't in debt, and when you walk out of that store you're not in trouble for failure to meet your contractual repayment obligations but rather you're gonna be done for stealing.
You can't incur debt buying a product or service.
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You can't incur debt buying a product or service.
Yes, you absolutely can.
Go to a sitdown restaurant and have a meal before the bill is presented? Debt. Get a haircut without paying first? Debt. Have a plumber fix your toilet then get the bill? Debt.
Sure, it is short term, but is still debt. And there is actually a contract, just a verbal one constrained by customs and traditional conventions.
Where isn't it debt? Where you pay first or the exchange is effectively simultaneous. Buying food at a fast food joint. You pay, then get food. Grocery stor
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No, not debt. Look up the *legal* definition of debt from a financial law reference. Not the dictionary definition. You have no incurred debt.
Looked it up [thefreedictionary.com], my definition works. You want to provide a citation that says otherwise?
Debt:
A sum of money that is owed or due to be paid because of an express agreement; a specified sum of money that one person is obligated to pay and that another has the legal right to collect or receive. A fixed and certain obligation to pay money or some other valuable thing or things, either in the present or in the future. In a still more general sense, that which is due from one person to another, whether money, goo
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They're in violation of 31 U.S. Code  5103 , which reads in full: "Legal tender: United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts."
The key term there is "public charges", which includes the charge for getting a government-issued ID.
Re: Legal Tender (Score:5, Informative)
If you drank the beer, you owe a debt. And have the right to pay with cash. The only way they can 'protest' is to demand exact change (or the excess becomes a 'tip')
In Norway, you have a right to pay cash in all cases, unless this necessitate over 30 units of money (bills/coins). So you can demand to pay cash at restaurants, but not ridiculous things like a big bag of low-denomination coins. You can't demand to pay a house that way, as it'd usually require over 30 of the biggest bills. Also, it might be dangerous for the recipient.
Re: Legal Tender (Score:3)
That's a fascinatingly weird law.
Re: Legal Tender (Score:5, Informative)
That's a fascinatingly weird law.
Not really: it's an anti-dickhead law. Thing is if you say all cash is legal tender then someone can pay back a $100,000 debt using a dump truck full of pennies incurring a large cost on the recipient. Anti dickhead laws only tend to come into effect after sufficient numbers of dickheads cause the law to be changed.
The UK has different rules stating for example that 1p coins are only legal tender for settlin a debt of up to 20p.
Re:Legal Tender (Score:5, Funny)
You should store your latinum in some kind of container. Maybe gold bars? They're not worth anything but they do look neat and shiny.
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Some places used to offer a discount if you used cash (since they avoid the fees). Sometimes though you'd get a discount if you used a credit card instead (to avoid cash on hand at night in a remote gas station).
So if some place no longer wants to use cash, then why not offer a discount? I really don't want some twenty something kid telling me that only old folks use cash and please swipe my phone to pay for the meal.
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Actually, to quote the Federal reserve [federalreserve.gov]:
"This statute means that all United States money as identified above is a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law which says otherwise."
So, no, they do not have to
Re:Legal Tender (Score:5, Insightful)
I have yet to see a single physical retailer turn down cash.
Re:Legal Tender (Score:4, Interesting)
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Especially a Salon. That is insane... they live off of cash tips. Read: avoid taxes.
One is explicitly supposed to report tips in tax returns. What you are suggesting is that such businesses engage in systematic and wilful tax fraud - a very serious charge, which you are putting forth without any supporting evidence.
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I have yet to see a single physical retailer turn down cash.
Not in America. But some other countries are nearly cashless. Sweden and China are the furthest along.
I spent two months in Shanghai last fall. Number of times I touched cash: 0.
Even the panhandlers accept electronic payments via QR stickers on their signs.
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Back when staying at the Playboy Club in NJ in the 1970's, I went to pay with cash. They said credit cards only. I offered a check, and they said no checks. I told them thankyou, my girlfriend and I had a wonderful weekend...at which point they got a manager and decided I could pay cash. BTW, that girlfriend is now my wife.
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I have yet to see a single physical retailer turn down cash.
UHaul, Hillsboro, Oregon, across from the airport.
Would not take cash for a strapping set.
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People would pay to see that.
Stockholm (Score:3)
I have yet to see a single physical retailer turn down cash.
Visit Stockholm sometime. I was there for an academic conference. The main university canteen refused cash and even a mobile food wagon was credit card only and refused cash. I've not seen that before or since but I have encountered it now. The problem with this is that credit cards charge a percentage fee for foreign currency transactions and some have a minimum on this fee which can make it really expensive for small value transactions.
Re:Legal Tender (Score:5, Interesting)
That's the trap of using plastic (or worse, phones), in that it becomes too easy to blow through your budget. For me, it's often that I'll notice that I only have $20 left and decide that I don't need dessert, or something similar. Without cash, money stops feeling like a real thing to some people, they don't have an internal regulator that says "stop spending". I know people (usually in their twenties) who will spend all of their paycheck and not think that this is wrong in any way.
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Personally, I've never felt any different in spending money off a card or cash and am conservative with both. I have heard from people that some how spending money on plastic is easier than with physical currency but I really just don't get that. It's all money and there's no differentiation for me.
Maybe it's because I've always been conservative with my money. I have friends who very likely make more than me in a year but when credit card debt payments are factored in they probably make at most the same as
Re:Legal Tender (Score:5, Informative)
For all debts, public and private.
Leave it on the counter and walk out.
Bingo. If you deliver services prior to obtaining payment, you must accept cash. Refusing to accept a cash payment after-the-fact would leave you without much recourse to collect in other ways. You're basically depending on the customer's kindness and patience with you.
Starbucks is another matter because they collect when you place your order. They can go cashless because there is never a 'debt' involved with 'pay first.'
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I did a search and found some of the federal reserve info elsewhere posted in this discussion, but nothing that solidly proved your point. Others have quoted legal dictionaries that state that short-term debt is still in fact debt.
Absent clear case law it's reasonable to view any agreement to pay later as debt, whether 'later' is 45 minutes or 45 months.
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Debt has well defined payback terms pre-negotiated at the time debt is incurred.
The payback terms for the debt you incur for a haircut are that you pay before you leave, which in most cases is expected to be on the same day. That's even better-defined than the "offer to pay tomorrow" in your example.
If they're claiming that you owe them money, that's a debt and legal tender rules apply. The entire point of legal tender, after all, is to ensure that there is a standard way to settle exactly these sorts of disputes. Practically speaking it's less a matter of retail or contract law and mo
Re:Legal Tender (Score:5, Insightful)
Exactly this. Already got a hairdo? Already had your salad dressed? Already drank two beers? You’re in their debt and they are legally required to accept cash as payment for that debt.
The only way to go cashless is by charging up front, before any goods or services are rendered. I.e. They can refuse the business of anyone who will pay with cash, but they can’t refuse to accept cash for any business already done. That’s why a place like Starbucks can legally go cashless, and also why a typical sit-down restaurant can’t or won’t.
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As somebody who has been in retail for more than a decade and a half, I have to say that whatever company you work for is either horribly managed, or just
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You realize you just accused someone of being a thief and a vagrant as a response to someone making a strong opinion on a legal responsibility of a business being avoided?
And then you explain how your business avoided modernizing and leapt right onto a single payment platform without making an effort to grow into a system that could easily handle all methods of payment easily. You even seem proud of this which is really odd.
Your position is even stranger since many small businesses refuse credit cards to av
Re:Legal Tender (Score:4, Funny)
In this context it is. Sue you? (Score:2)
In this context, it's a debt after the service has been rendered.
For your own analysis of your financial situation, you can use whatever definition of "debt" you want.
Think about it this way. After they refuse your cash payment and you walk away, what would be their next step? They could sue you, saying you owe them $40. You'd walk into court with the cash in hand, saying "I tried to pay them" and the judge would have a few words for them about wasting the Court's time. They could refuse service to you nex
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Owing money for a service is not being in debt
Wrong.
Debt:
A sum of money that is owed or due to be paid because of an express agreement; a specified sum of money that one person is obligated to pay and that another has the legal right to collect or receive.
A fixed and certain obligation to pay money or some other valuable thing or things, either in the present or in the future. In a still more general sense, that which is due from one person to another, whether money, goods, or services.
In a broad sense, any duty to respond to another in money, labor, or service; it may even mean a moral or honorary obligation, unenforceable by legal action. Also, sometimes an aggregate of separate debts, or the total sum of the existing claims against a person or company. Thus we speak of the "national debt," the "bonded debt" of a corporation, and so on.
https://legal-dictionary.thefr... [thefreedictionary.com]
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I am aware of the costs of cash to business but that is not my problem (it is your cost of doing business).
What they are doing is transferring the cost/effort of a small transaction to the customer, it is s/he who now has an extra card transaction that needs to be checked when the monthly statement arrives. I know some who do not check statements ... to whom I ask "how do you notice errors or fraudulent transactions ?"
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That's fair, but they're under no obligation to give you change.
Bullshit! They're under no obligation to immediately give you change in cash, but they're absolutely under obligation to give you change eventually. Keeping the surplus portion would be theft.
And no need to get hand-wavy; if they refused to accept the cash, they also waived their right to accuse you of "theft of services." It doesn't matter who refuses. If they've refused to accept, it is merely a civil debt, you can come back and pay them later, just the same as they can try to make you wait.
Quick solution (Score:2)
Why can't one of the hair stylists or other customers take the cash and pay with their credit card?
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They could as a one-off, but I believe this breaks some cash-advance rules. Meh.
On a larger scale, this will get you flagged for money laundering and/or tax evasion.
Re:Quick solution (Score:5, Insightful)
I prefer to not have records of every financial transaction stored in other peoples' databases...if at all possible.
Transactions recorded and tracked: BINGO (Score:5, Insightful)
Yet another way the balance of power shifts in a cashless society.
Pound notes??? (Score:4, Funny)
"At some pubs in the U.K., you can no longer get a pint with pound notes." I'd be surprised if you can find any that accept them. Pound notes were withdrawn 30 years ago.
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Semantics, the 1 Pound Note was withdrawn, but the rest of the paper money in Britain is still various numerations of pounds.
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"Pound note" means a one pound note. If you're talking about a five pound note, there's a different name for that.
I have an idea: (Score:5, Insightful)
accept cash or your services are free.
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Call the police.
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really? (Score:3, Insightful)
Power shifting (Score:5, Insightful)
Though cash can be stolen, it is way more difficult for "authorities" or whoever to revoke remotely. Plastic, charge cards, debit cards are all revocable. I am *very* wary of a shift to mechanisms that can produce financial disability by remote control.
It's been increasingly true for large purchases, but this changeover to plastic for small purchases (as in "food", etc.) is comfortably convenient and OK until it's not.
These issues are separate from the question of how many entities get to "participate in", as in "charge a fee for" all transactions, outside the ability of the actual paying customers to affect those decisions.
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Discrimination (Score:5, Insightful)
This discriminates against the "unbanked". About a third of US adults (including my long-term tenant), don't have a bank account, much less a credit card. There are many reasons for this - bounced a check/overdrew an account in the past, medical or job problems, etc. And for low income people, bank accounts can be expensive. BoA charges a service fee of $12 a month for balances below $1500. So my tenant just gets a money order to pay the rent, cause it is cheaper.
Paper money states "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private". Once you have accepted a service, such as from a hair salon or restaurant, you now owe a debt until it is paid. So they should have to take cash, even though it may upset their business methods.
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Good point. I'm surprised this is going on in California of all places. Then again, maybe CA gives out debit cards to low-income residents (they're already trying to figure out how to fund free cell service [slashdot.org]).
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Cashless is also like having a sign that says "no one over 40 allowed".
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There are many reasons for this - bounced a check/overdrew an account in the past
Banks will not close your account because of bounced checks or overdrafts. In fact, they LOVE these irresponsible customers since they get to charge lots of fees.
Most banks offer a "no-checking" account that only allows payments via a debit card, and then only if enough money is in the account. These accounts are usually free.
medical or job problems, etc.
What does this have to do with having a bank account?
BoA charges a service fee of $12 a month for balances below $1500.
Only for "normal" checking accounts. Who needs that? I haven't written a paper check in years.
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It isn’t just them— some people like to use cash for certain things because that is how they manage their spending. There are plenty of good reasons to prefer cash over cards, especially for transactions under $100. I like using cash where I think it may go unreported as income (a black economy is a good thing), and if it wasn’t for credit card points, I would go back to using it exclusively.
Re:Discrimination (Score:4, Insightful)
It isn’t just them— some people like to use cash for certain things because that is how they manage their spending. There are plenty of good reasons to prefer cash over cards, especially for transactions under $100.
Studies, namely observing peoples brain activity, show that using cash has close to equal parts of disgust and pleasure whereas using plastic gets rid of the disgust part of the equation.
For the average person, using cash automatically makes it easier to manage their money. They see it going and feel disgust.
For the average business, it is the opposite, they want you to spend money without disgust by using plastic as you're more likely to spend.
Re:Discrimination (Score:5, Insightful)
Also children. It's perfectly reasonable for a child to go to a store or a hairdresser on their own.
Re:Discrimination (Score:5, Interesting)
Yeah - that's intentional. These businesses don't want "their kind" in their establishments. Requiring cards is a low-pass filter on the people they feel are beneath them. "The trash can take itself out", etc.
"No cash" at s brick-and-mortar is a label that says "an elitist asshole runs this place".
Not paying by card as it costs 2-5% (Score:5, Insightful)
Now handling cash is also not for free but at least with bigger shops it is not 2-5%. Anyone has an idea how much does the cash handling and transfers cost?
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Most merchant accounts are going to pay 2% or less. A small merchant that takes in ~$1500/day is generally going to be better off paying the $30 in credit card fees compared to the hassles of managing cash.
I would guess they would end up paying about $3 per cashier drawer to count cash, and another $10 per day to break down the cash for new drawers, and maybe $10/day for going to the bank. When you add back the risks of handling cash, it might not be worth it. As you work with more cash, the costs likely
A retailer answers (Score:5, Informative)
When I'm out and about spending money, I always use cash.
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About 7% of average business revenue is lost in theft, the majority of which is employee theft. For small coffee/food shops/chains and restaurants this number is a lot higher. Going cashless prevents the majority of theft, even if they have to pay 1-2% for the credit card fees.
Re:A retailer answers (Score:4, Insightful)
The majority of employee theft is of goods, not cash
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About 7% of average business revenue is lost in theft, the majority of which is employee theft.
Sounds made-up, but OK, let's go with your numbers.
For small coffee/food shops/chains and restaurants this number is a lot higher.
What? You mean the folks behind the counter at my local non-starbucks coffee shop are eating/drinking (stealing) 7% of sales?
Going cashless prevents the majority of theft, even if they have to pay 1-2% for the credit card fees.
They pay 3%, plus 15-30 cents/transaction:
Re:Not paying by card as it costs 2-5% (Score:4, Informative)
Anyone has an idea how much does the cash handling and transfers cost?
I can answer that for the case of very small companies, in our case a 6 person ISP at the time, as I was the person handling the monthly billing cycle.
Basically the costs were so insignificant they weren't even taken into account.
We had one of those cash register drawer lock boxes, about $20-30 one time expense, that was kept in a locked desk drawer in a locked office.
Once every two weeks, assuming we had anything in it, I would leave work on Friday about 30 minutes early but still "on the clock", drive to the bank on my way home, and despot the cash in the ATM, bringing the receipt back with me Monday.
For the most part the ATM was on my way, so didn't cost any more in gas or wear and tear on my car than compared to say stopping for fast food on the way home.
Like I said we literally didn't even factor that in, because from my point of view I got to leave 30 minutes early for a 10 minute task and beat out rush hour traffic. So I felt no reason to complain.
Even the company I work for now of about 200 employees uses this same method, although I'm not involved in billing. The plant controller handles the petty cash, which as far as I know is the only reason for having cash there.
We do however have expense forms to report millage on for any personal vehicle usage for work purposes.
10-15 minutes of time plus what, 0.05 miles of gas, are variables so inexpensive that I never bothered mathing that out since, as you can see, they are so very insignificant.
The only one potential factor I have no experience with is for frequent and larger cash amount runs. One may make the argument that the safety of the person doing the ATM run should come into play.
Once you hit that point however, at least in the late 90's, Dunbar armored car services were around $60/visit to do that for you.
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You want weed in Cali... (Score:2, Interesting)
Bring cash, because dispensaries take nothing else.
Lazy and cheap businesses (Score:3)
This is just businesses (IE the corporate level that makes decisions) being lazy and cheap. If you don't accept cash...
You don't have to worry about your employees stealing it, so you don't have to audit it to make sure tills balance out and that deposits match sales receipts.
You don't have to train your managers to make sure they have proper cash and change on hand when the business opens daily.
You don't have to pay employees for the overhead time of counting cash when shifts start or end.
You don't have to pay managers for making trips to banks to get change or make deposits (yes, I know, many businesses already don't pay them for their time while doing this).
You don't have to have a special safe or procedures in place for when too much cash accumulates.
You don't have to have local bank accounts for deposit.
You no longer have to make sure your employees can count or do simple math.
Insurance is likely cheaper since cash doesn't have to be insured and the risk of robbery is decreased.
None of this has anything to do with what the customers want, or what is convenient to them. It is about saving money and reducing the responsibility you entrust to managers and employees and consolidating control.
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You call it lazy and cheap, others would likely call it innovative and efficient.
For what good reason should your hairdressers be accountants, security guards, and couriers? Back in the day businesses had a cashier, but as time goes on, it's clear that that's not a required position.
If you don't need to store cash, as you point out, you don't need procedures, audits, staff training, specialized hardware and software, daily (or at least weekly) trips to the local bank, insurance, concerns about embezzlement
It's almost as if accepting cash isn't free (Score:4, Interesting)
I can tell you that if you're running a business that can be robbed doing away with cash is a huge boon to the employees. Though it's going to be interesting when we become cashless and petty crime just goes away. I guess you can mug me for my shoes and my cell phone. But as soon as I get home I'm going to lock the cell phone (and modern DRM means you can't even use it for parts) and my shoes cost $50 bucks on Amazon.
Sure I love giving 3% or my income away (Score:2)
To payment processors.
All debts... (Score:3)
For all debts, public and private. It says so right on the bills.
Now, someone can refuse to SELL you something as you haven't incurred a debt at that point. But if you've been rendered a service (or generally own someone money outside of an immediate transactional service like retail sale) then cash is, as it says, legal tender for that debt.
It would make an interesting court case, but I highly doubt the US government would allow a court case saying it's OK to refuse US Legal Tender. If for no other reason than they have a very strong, vested interest in maintaining the $ as broadly accepted currency - it's a big part of the reason behind it's stability. If the country issuing it says it's OK to refuse it, that sets a very dangerous precedent.
tl;dr: Currency says it's for all debts and US Gov't wouldn't undermine the $ value/stability by allowing it to be refused. Story is a non-story. They have to take it or forego payment.
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If you won't take my money (Score:4, Insightful)
If you won't take my money, you won't get my money.
I mean, aren't you in the business of getting money? Isn't that what the actual end-goal is?
It's Business 101: get the money.
But it's not a problem, I'll just shop elsewhere.
I'll also vigorously shit-talk your hipster establishment non-stop, probably on Yelp as well as everywhere else I can think of.
Technological Solution (Score:3)
Since ancient times we have had to deal with the problem of markets preferring one type of payment but having an influx of other kinds. Meant there was money to be made offering the service of converting to the preferred currency. Malls, airports, or anywhere with concentrated shops will have had ATMs available exactly so people can get their electronic holdings into a spendable format. Seems like we will start installing machines to accept deposits and put them on temporary credit cards, or something similar.
But I do wonder if refusing cash is an actually business savvy phenomenon which will endure. Spend untold amounts on advertising for the one in a thousand chance someone who sees the ad will come to your shop, and then turn away guaranteed customers with payment in hand? When a competing shop shows up accepting cash, I will bet their mistake becomes evident.
Why is it a problem? (Score:2)
UK, cash... (Score:2)
You haven't been able to get a pint with pound notes since 1988, so that would be ALL the pubs in the U.K. You can still get pints with pound coins, although contactless is the norm these days. It will be a very sad day when physical currency is no longer legal tender, all anonymity of payment will be lost - which kinda makes the idea of cryptocurrency payments suddenly more relevant, except for that tricky issue of volatility ..
and then the system is down? and can they call cop (Score:2)
and then the system is down? and can they call the cops if you don't have a card and they will not take your cash?
It's not that they can't take cash (Score:2)
Big mistake (Score:5, Insightful)
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It is a civil right guaranteed by the US Constitution. Even though the work privacy is not explicitly stated, it is pretty obvious from the 4th amendment (and to a lesser extent the 5th, 3rd, and 1st). The right to privacy has been central to many Supreme Court decisions, including Griswold v. Connecticut and Roe v. Wade, so at this point it is very much established law.
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You might want to slow down on the hur-dur and figure out what you're trying to say.
You used the phrases "human right" and "civil right" but I think you actually meant to be differentiating between "natural rights" and "legal rights."
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Very few Chinese restaurants take credit cards.
I’ve eaten at lots of Chinese restaurants, and I’ve never EVER been in one which doesn’t take credit cards.
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On what grounds are they seeking to discourage me?
I know I'm not the prettiest person to walk into a shop but most businesses welcome my custom.
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The key word here is "DEBT". In this context, "debt" refers to one of two things: Either something that you owe due to process (like taxes - ie "public debt") or due to the seller/provider having extended you (long OR short term) credit for goods they are unwilling or unable to accept a return on. ("private debt") Example like being allowed to pump gas, consume food, or experience entertainment are things that are impractical or impossible to return. You can either demand payment in advance (in which ca
Re:Article is Paywalled (Score:5, Interesting)
Seriously? It's almost 2019 and you don't have a browser extension to bypass paywalls, and you're on /.?
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If it's got a paywall, I don't need a way past it since I don't want to continue on that website any further.
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