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Seamless, Grubhub Deliver Confusion With Mistaken Restaurant Listings (sfchronicle.com) 179

An anonymous reader shares a report: Pim Techamuanvivit was managing her Michelin-starred Thai restaurant in San Francisco, Kin Khao, around 8:30 p.m. on Saturday when she got an unexpected call. A customer was wondering when food from his order on the online food delivery company Seamless was coming, as he had been waiting 45 minutes. "I think you must be confused, because I don't do delivery," Techamuanvivit told him. Techamuanvivit said the man then asked, "So what are you doing on Seamless?" The restaurateur soon discovered that her restaurant had a page on both Seamless and Grubhub. Both brands are owned by Grubhub, a Chicago online food delivery company that merged with New York's Seamless in 2013. The delivery sites listed her restaurant and its address with a menu that she does not serve, including pad Thai and, of all things in a restaurant that specializes in lesser-known Thai regional cuisine, Vietnamese pho.

"It's outrageous. They can't get away with this. They can't totally fake a restaurant that doesn't do delivery and go pick up food from, I don't know, some rat-infested warehouse somewhere and deliver to my guests," said Techamuanvivit, who added that she intends to sue Seamless. Grubhub said that the company partners with more than 140,000 restaurants in over 2,700 U.S. cities, and that most orders are from restaurants with which it has an explicit partnership. The company recently started adding other restaurants to its sites without such a partnership, when it finds restaurants that are in high demand, it said. In those cases, someone from the company orders the food ahead or at the restaurant, and a driver is sent to pick it up, it added.

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Seamless, Grubhub Deliver Confusion With Mistaken Restaurant Listings

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  • by gmack ( 197796 ) <gmack@@@innerfire...net> on Monday January 27, 2020 @01:05PM (#59661100) Homepage Journal

    The company recently started adding other restaurants to its sites without such a partnership, when it finds restaurants that are in high demand, it said. In those cases, someone from the company orders the food ahead or at the restaurant, and a driver is sent to pick it up, it added.

    If the restaurant is not setup for delivery, this sort of stunt is problematic. Delivery requires a proper setup with hot and cold bags kept separate and delivery drivers timed to grab the order right when it's ready.

    UberEats is even worse for food quality, they have somehow convinced a bunch of restaurants that they can delivery and some of them don't even have easy access for the delivery drivers to park, to top it off there is no scheduling so the food can be sitting for 15 - 20 minutes before the delivery driver even manages to show up. A situation made worse by the delivery drivers being afraid to take UberEats orders because it nets them bad reviews.

    • If the restaurant is not setup for delivery, this sort of stunt is problematic.

      It gets worse and worse; the individual employees and contractors for Seamless and Grubhub might have serious felony criminal liability here. They have to know what is going on, so that they can go to the "wrong" place to pick up the food and deliver it.

  • by iced_773 ( 857608 ) on Monday January 27, 2020 @01:11PM (#59661140)
    There was an article [c-ville.com] in the local media last summer about this kind of thing.
  • Fraud. If these delivery services can't be bothered to check facts, then the government shouldn't be bothered to let them continue operation.
  • Will say a restaurant is closed if there isn’t a delivery driver available.

    • by gmack ( 197796 )

      Strangely enough, that's an improvement on SkipTheDishes and UberEATS who will just place the order and have the driver deliver it up to an hour later when one becomes available. Nothing like eating lukewarm food that's been sitting out for 45 minutes waiting for someone to pick it up.

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      Will say a restaurant is closed if there isn’t a delivery driver available.

      I've had the opposite happen: Grubhub showed a restaurant open when they were closed for the day (Chinese restaurants close on holidays?) Sat there for a good hour waiting, then had to call grubhub, get that order canceled, then wait for a new order from a different restaurant get delivered. Even worse, my wife was pregnant.

      • Why in hell would you place a second order with them? They lied to you up front. Order a pizza. You know they make them themselves and you know they deliver in thermal bags.
        • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

          Why in hell would you place a second order with them? They lied to you up front. Order a pizza. You know they make them themselves and you know they deliver in thermal bags.

          Pregnant wife wanted Chinese. We only order from 2 places, both of which I have picked up from in person before, so we know what we're getting.

      • Even worse, my wife was pregnant.
        That is actually not so bad. Boy or Girl?

  • by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Monday January 27, 2020 @01:38PM (#59661278) Journal

    "They can't totally fake a restaurant that doesn't do delivery and go pick up food from, I don't know, some rat-infested warehouse somewhere and deliver to my guests,"

    Not to quibble, but it appears they can. Whether or not it's legal is another matter.

  • i was always a bit skeptical about just eating in restaurants (especially fast food) and now this, there is no way in hell am i going to install an app then order food so just snot-nosed teenager on a scooter can paw through it before handing it to me, and no telling what grease pit it came from
    • by nagora ( 177841 )

      i was always a bit skeptical about just eating in restaurants (especially fast food)

      Which is it: restaurant or fast food? It can't be both. No, I don't care what Ronald McDonald told you when you were five - he lied.

  • You get a real Thai experience. I've been to nearly 60 countries, but Thailand surely takes the crown for scams. Nowhere else have I seen scamming elevated to industrial levels the way they do it.

    • India: Hold my beer.

      Seriously though, the scamming in Thailand is really restricted to the "tourist" areas and goods in the department stores. Lots of knock-off Lego and Barbie products. The quality of kids toys there is terrible and for some reason, books and kid reading material are either ridiculously expensive or non-existent. If you want to avoid Thai scams, get to know the citizens where you are. They hate the scammers even more than you probably do and will steer you clear of them.

  • Doordash - how many times we ordered food from them that was never delivered. So now we won't use them or merchants that employ them.
  • Sounds like Grubhub violating restaurants' menu ownership and ability to control their own activities, and acting like it's the restaurants' fault when they complain:

    “Out of the 140,000 restaurants we partner with, diners increasingly want delivery. If a restaurant doesn’t want those orders, we’re happy to remove them,” the spokesperson told SFGATE over the phone. SFgate source [sfgate.com]

    If that doesn't come off as assholish, I don't know what is.
  • I tried Grubhub years ago. I quickly got the impression that the whole operation was shady. Same with several competitors.

    The only one that I trust currently is Uber Eats, and that's probably just because I haven't used them enough. At least I can see the driver went to the restaurant I ordered from.

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