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Trump Administration Rescinds Rule on Foreign Students (apnews.com) 27

Facing eight federal lawsuits and opposition from hundreds of universities, the Trump administration on Tuesday rescinded a rule that would have required international students to transfer or leave the country if their schools held classes entirely online because of the pandemic. From a report: The decision was announced at the start of a hearing in a federal lawsuit in Boston brought by Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs said federal immigration authorities agreed to pull the July 6 directive and "return to the status quo." A lawyer representing the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said only that the judge's characterization was correct.

The announcement brings relief to thousands of foreign students who had been at risk of being deported from the country, along with hundreds of universities that were scrambling to reassess their plans for the fall in light of the policy. Under the policy, international students in the U.S. would have been forbidden from taking all their courses online this fall. New visas would not have been issued to students at schools planning to provide all classes online, which includes Harvard. Students already in the U.S. would have faced deportation if they didn't transfer schools or leave the country voluntarily.

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  • One-legged man in an arse-kicking competition. But he's gonna Make America Great Again!

  • by stikves ( 127823 ) on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:50PM (#60298306) Homepage

    Many of the students would be punished for events outside their control. I was once on a student visa, and I remember how difficult it was to balance coursework and always living at the edge of poverty. Once all said and done, I was able to get a full time job, and now can contribute to the society.

    Most of these people would want to do the same. They came here for a good education, and usually stay because it is a great country. But they now have to endure the additional burden of the covid lockdown without already existing research load, courses, and always persistent difficulties.

    It is good to hear that they reached a solution.

    • It won't help a large number of students though. Embassies remain closed for regular visas and the border remains closed to much of the world. If you don't already have a visa and aren't already in the United States, there's still a host of obstacles in your path.

  • BS (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Shaitan ( 22585 ) on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:51PM (#60298310)

    "The announcement brings relief to thousands of foreign students who had been at risk of being deported from the country, along with hundreds of universities that were scrambling to reassess their plans for the fall in light of the policy."

    This is all just universities banking on facilitating insourcing via loopholes in student visa policy. Not enough h1bs to displace your US workers to dilute salaries as much as you'd like, np, just have them get the usual diploma mill degree and then jump on a fast track MA/PHD scam from a respectable US University at the highest possible rate. When they are done their advanced degree facilitates keeping them on more stable ongoing basis.

  • Great news! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by DogDude ( 805747 ) on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @04:54PM (#60298320)
    King Orange has done everything he can to hurt the US, but I believe that other than killing a few hundred thousand Americans, this would have been the worst. The damage would have been incalculable, and would have lasted for decades. We'd lose our best and brightest for decades. Also, all of the companies that are in the US employing these people, would have left as well. I'm not a foreign student, but most of the best students that I know are foreign. I'm having a big beer to celebrate this!
    • More like the administration put out actions without a plan and then refused to answer basic questions about enforcement. The challenge by multiple universities was to get clarification on the rules. Instead of providing any clarification, the administration just waived a flag and gave up.
    • by mark-t ( 151149 )

      King Orange has done everything he can to hurt the US, but I believe that other than killing a few hundred thousand Americans, this would have been the worst.

      Unfortunately, I suspect the worst is about to come. Watch what happens if or when he ever starts to think there is a chance he will lose the next election.

  • China sends hundreds of thousands of students to US Univs to do undergrad paying full international tuition. They form a significant source of revenue for the universities. These students are usually children of ultra rich people who dress like models and drive super expensive cars. India too sends such rich students but not in that many numbers. Indian students are usually fro graduate schools hoping to snag a H1B with a US Masters degree.

    The hostility shown by the current administration has scared off

    • " These students are usually children of ultra rich people who dress like models and drive super expensive cars. India too sends such rich students but not in that many numbers. "

      What do the RWNJ's say about that? After all, they are the ones screaming the loudest about the Chinese being communist.

  • It looks to me like they wanted to be assholes, but then it got to be too much trouble so they gave up.

    There was never any justification for the action other than they just wanted to be assholes to some non-white group that couldn't fight back. Their supporters absolutely love them for that. But then it turns out the demographic had supporters that would fight back after all (it is about money after all) so they folded like a soggy dixie cup.

    • by RightSaidFred99 ( 874576 ) on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @05:20PM (#60298410)

      This was indeed stupid but has nothing to do with your laughable knee-jerk "non white" comment. It has to do with that buffoon wanting to force schools to open thinking he can just force the economy to open and somehow salvage the one talking point he thinks he has - "the economy", before the election.

      He thought he would force them to open for classes so they don't lose students - he thought wrong.

      • Why can’t it be both? A majority of grad students in the US is from China or India. Removing them or forcing the schools back to opening classes is a victory either way for the administration.
  • But the real question is, did they field test this idea at all? What was the problem that this was supposed to fix? Did they workshop any other ideas?

    Or was it just "foreigners bad"?

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