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United States Education Medicine

Covid-19 Deaths Rose In US College Towns When Students Returned (deccanherald.com) 264

The New York Times reports: As coronavirus deaths soar across the country, deaths in communities that are home to colleges have risen faster than the rest of the nation, a New York Times analysis of 203 counties where students compose at least 10 percent of the population has found... [S]ince the end of August, deaths from the coronavirus have doubled in counties with a large college population, compared with a 58 percent increase in the rest of the nation.

Few of the victims were college students, but rather older people and others living and working in the community.

Health officials and family members of some people who died in such counties described large surges of cases involving students followed by subsequent infections and deaths in the wider community. "When the rate of transmission in the surrounding community is high and increasing," said Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, "you are going to see more deaths...." [I]n September and October, when deaths were well below earlier peaks and fairly steady, they were already rising in many college communities. That trend highlighted a central fear of health officials — that young adults with limited symptoms may unwittingly transmit the virus, increasing the possibility it would ultimately spread to someone more vulnerable...

"All it really takes is one cavalier interaction," said Tali Elfassy, an epidemiologist at the University of Miami.

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Covid-19 Deaths Rose In US College Towns When Students Returned

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  • by nagora ( 177841 ) on Monday December 14, 2020 @03:54AM (#60828396)

    In what way is this news for anyone?

    • by feedayeen ( 1322473 ) on Monday December 14, 2020 @04:15AM (#60828424)

      A sizable percentage of the population seems to legitimately think that children and young adults getting exposed is fine, because they rarely develop complications. For 49 of the last 50 years parents have been blaming their kids for getting sick, but in 2020 we collectively forgot that diseases can jump from younger people to older people or they think that if Timmy has a mild case, so will Granny when she caches it from Timmy.

      This falls under the same category of science as "things we all kind of knew but we needed to prove anyway'" except this time it's a variation in the form of "things we all kind of knew, but were inconvenient, so we chose to believe in something else."

      • by nagora ( 177841 ) on Monday December 14, 2020 @05:12AM (#60828484)

        This falls under the same category of science as "things we all kind of knew but we needed to prove anyway'"

        There is literally a world of proof that's accumulated for almost a year.

        • Remember.  Half the people are below average.
          • If you have an 80 year old, a 79 yar old, and a twenty year old, are half of them below the average age? You know how averages work, don't you?
            • Can't you be nicer on Slashdot? That's just mean.
      • Also a certain President keeps repeating misinformation that children "almost immune" from CoVID. As a general rule, healthy children and young adults are less likely to suffer long term effects from CoVID. But that does not mean they cannot contract it, spread it, or do not suffer serious effects (like death) at all.
        • The long-term effects part of your statement is starting to see some serious challenges in data. I recommend keeping your opinion open on that... as todayâ(TM)s kids enter puberty, thereâ(TM)s growing concern we will see a spike in heart failure from this virus, matching what happened after the 1918 flu. No conclusive data yet, but several papers out there raising reasonable concern.

    • It is news to the people who do not watch mainstream news.

      There has been a trend of us getting news from more timely and targeted sources.
      Your a Republican who wants to know about what is happening in politics you watch Fox News and go to conservative news sites, and social media will be happy to direct you there.
      Your a Democrat who wants to know about what is happening in politics you watch MSNBC and go to liberal news sites, and social media will be happy to direct you there.

      We are missing traditional mai

      • by nagora ( 177841 )

        One of the messages that seemed to be taken out from the normal discord, is the fact that the Masks are not to protect the wearing from catching the virus, but for someone who might have it and not know it from spreading it.

        Yeah, I've noticed that too.

  • by rapjr ( 732628 ) on Monday December 14, 2020 @05:17AM (#60828496)
    So if this is happening with colleges, is it also happening with grade schools? I see reports that COVID-19 hasn't spread in -some- grade schools that have reopened, though it has in others that were closed again, but if there is asymptomatic spread how would they know? I would doubt they are doing PCR tests on kids with no symptoms to find out, but maybe they are. We do know COVID-19 occurs in children, so it seems entirely possible they are spreading it among themselves and hence to their families. Maybe asymptomatic spread is rarer (no symptoms means no sneezing, droplets, etc.) but seems like it could still be happening on a large enough scale to have an effect.
    • by shilly ( 142940 )

      Yes, this is absolutely a real path for disease spread. We see it time and again.

    • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

      Colleges are slightly different in that the students are from outside the community. While its not true of metro areas a lot of rural American towns don't probably have somewhat limited contact with the outside. Farmers taking produce to market, retailers receiving inventory, etc. The rest of the folks mostly interact within a small set of surrounding communities. The people the do frequently travel further a field probably are the ones most willing and capable of taking appropriate precautions.

      However you

    • So if this is happening with colleges, is it also happening with grade schools?

      Of course it is. Grade school kids are vectors of illness every day.

    • Tons of schools have opened up only to close again because of positive cases. You couldn't pay me enough to be a teacher right now. Being stuck in a small room with 30 children? Outbreak city.

  • by AndyKron ( 937105 ) on Monday December 14, 2020 @05:41AM (#60828532)
    No shit. But at least they got to kiss their mummy
  • The hypocrisy... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by jbssm ( 961115 ) on Monday December 14, 2020 @08:06AM (#60828794)
    I have a very high suspicion, that a great deal of those college students, were the same ones posting on their social media, that Trump was a monster for not imposing stricter pandemic measures.
    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      I have a very high suspicion, that a great deal of those college students, were the same ones posting on their social media, that Trump was a monster for not imposing stricter pandemic measures.

      It's true, jbssm is hearing this from many, great people.

  • by OneHundredAndTen ( 1523865 ) on Monday December 14, 2020 @09:13AM (#60829030)
    Way too many people go to college for the so-called 'college experience' - i.e. binge drinking, partying, fooling around, and doing stupid things in general outside one's parents jurisdiction. Anything but learning: if you go undeclared even better for, that way, you can devote yourself full time to those activities without any pretense. What is intriguing is why so many are willing to mortgage their future for that, or how many parents are willing to foot the bill. I guess you are young only once, and stupid all your life.
    • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

      So many parents are willing to foot the bill because they have been propagandized into the belief that if they children doing go directly from high school to university (no some community college) they are destine to be wage slaves in some Amazon warehouse or burger flippers their entire lives; with no hope of improving their station EVER.

      The vast majority of 18 year olds have no practical experience with large five figure sums let alone six figure sums. They don't have a sense of what 30 years is only bei

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