Apple Blocks Coinbase Wallet App From Sending NFTs Because of In-App Purchase Dispute (macrumors.com) 32
Popular NFT and cryptocurrency app Coinbase Wallet today said that Apple required an NFT-sending feature to be removed from the app due to an in-app purchase dispute. MacRumors reports: Apple's App Store review team apparently told Coinbase that the "gas fees required to send NFTs need to be paid through in-app purchase." Apple wanted a cut of transactions, which Coinbase Wallet said is similar to Apple attempting to take a cut of fees for every email that's sent over the internet. Apple is asking for something that is not possible, because the in-app purchase system does not support cryptocurrency to begin with.
Coinbase Wallet says that Apple would not approve an app update until the NFT-sending feature was disabled, and the removal of the functionality will make it more difficult for iPhone users who have an NFT to transfer the NFT to other wallets or gift an NFT to friends or family. The developers behind the app say that Apple has introduced profit-protecting policies that come at the expense of "developer innovation across the crypto ecosystem." Coinbase Wallet is hoping that this is a mistake and has tweeted an invitation to Apple to discuss the matter.
Coinbase Wallet says that Apple would not approve an app update until the NFT-sending feature was disabled, and the removal of the functionality will make it more difficult for iPhone users who have an NFT to transfer the NFT to other wallets or gift an NFT to friends or family. The developers behind the app say that Apple has introduced profit-protecting policies that come at the expense of "developer innovation across the crypto ecosystem." Coinbase Wallet is hoping that this is a mistake and has tweeted an invitation to Apple to discuss the matter.
Like AVP Whoever wins...we lose (Score:5, Insightful)
Does Apple deserve 30%?...probably not, but Coinbase doesn't deserve to exist. Sorry, we should be regulating the fuck out of these scam fintech apps and doing what we can to make organized crime less convenient. The world is a better place without NFTs. If you're that motivated, go buy an Android phone. This is a situation that is solved by the free-market. Apple is making it more difficult to support criminals. I support that. Am I wrong?...maybe?...but that doesn't matter. That's why we have a free market, so it's not up to me. Vote with your feet. There are many affordable Android phones that will allow you to be cybercrime victims or launder your money via NFTs. I guess you just can't conveniently do it with your shiny Apple status symbol.
Good riddance. It's like that old movie Alien vs Predator: Whoever wins...we lose. Coinbase wins?...cybercrime and ponzi schemes...apple wins?...exploiting legitimate app developers down the road...of which I don't consider Coinbase to be...it causes a lot of harm and from what I can tell, no good.
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That's some Top Level Herpy-Derp there. Only super-stupid criminals would use something with a public ledger to transfer illegal funds.
Nice narrative, but completely fictitious.
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That's some Top Level Herpy-Derp there. Only super-stupid criminals would use something with a public ledger to transfer illegal funds.
Nice narrative, but completely fictitious.
This just in! All criminals are apparently quite smart, which is why they crime.
They use coinbase to get the funds in (Score:3)
Nice narrative, but completely fictitious.
A common scam is they instruct people to put money from their bank into coinbase via tether currency and then put that money into a fake bitcoin exchange as an "investment." They even show you success on your first transaction and offer to show you how to be a bitcoin trader. If you try to withdraw from the fake exchange without the guidance of your scammer, it will make up reasons why you cannot. No legit bank will do business with them...that's why they need coinbase and crypto in between. I've also h
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Personally I see blocking technologies because they are being abused as a mistaken shortcut to dealing with the abuse. Thieves use mopeds to get away from mugging
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Consumer: "I'd like to mortgage a new house..."
Apple: "That will be 30% to us"
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Sure apple can pay 30% of my mortgage.
Banks are payment processors. Even when they sre the entiry being paid.
Visa, venmo and paypal are also paent processors and not subject to apples 30% cut.
Notice how whenever people complain about apples 30% (excessive) they never mention that fact
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You'll have to end up paying 30% more because they will pass the additional cost on to you...
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Banning the app is fine but they should be honest about it and say it's fraud prevention. Otherwise the impression given is that they would let this sort of crap through as long as someone pays them off.
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I think that's exactly what Apple is saying. If the crypto nft guys could figure out how to pay the 30% then apple would take the cash.
And lol at the crypto HODL fanboy idiot who modded me down for saying their nft crypto shit is shit.
Here it goes again: your NFT is worthless. Your crypto "coins" are all shit. Web3 is a scam.
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Yes I noticed that at 68k. And 58k. And 48k. And 38k. And 28k. And 18k. And this moment it's 16981. I noticed that. And it will eventually be 8k and 800 and 80 and 8 and 80 cents and finally settle at its True Value. Zero.
Or maybe you were just joking when you said "too big to fail" because that's what is always said about broken things. Like Enron. But you appear to be serious.
You think hyperinflation will save it? Ok let's do some math and hypotheticals. The USD dollar inflates by 10x making ea
I don't know who to root for (Score:5, Insightful)
Once again, Apple is abusing its position as owner of their walled garden. Once again, why their racketeeting scheme is allowed to continue is the question that should come to everybody's mind.
So fuck Apple. Once again.
On the other hand, the company raising a stink is a crypto-NFT-currency scammer. So ya know, fuck Coinbase too.
The lesson here is: don't be a fool. Don't buy an Apple product and don't invest in crypto bullshit.
apple takes 0 from sports books and lotto apps (Score:2)
apple takes 0 from sports books and lotto apps.
And it may be an case of the states saying we can't give you 30% by law.
Or with the lotto we can give you the same commissions that any other retailer gets.
also we must use OUR bank and not the apple bank to hold funds.
it's too far (Score:4, Insightful)
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The last few weeks seem to be the beginning of the end for Apple's extortionate behavior. Some big players like Musk (love him or hate him) are starting to sound the alarm and preparing for battle. This will not end well for Apple, but it's going to be a long stupid battle.
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Musk did a 180 yesterday, said it was all a misunderstanding.
Of course maybe today he'll do another 180...
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I don't actually have a problem Apple taking a cut for deployment and hosting services for the app - I do quibble about the cut, 5% seems a lot more reasonable - but the in-app purchases that don't actually HAVE a deployment and hosting service cost to it, that's too much.
Apple: We deserve a cut because we're hosting and processing payments
Vendors: We don't want you to do either thing
Apple: Pay us, bitches
This whole mess could be avoided if... (Score:4, Insightful)
Apple just allowed sideloading... I've ranted extensively on that subject before in other comments on stories, and won't repeat such dissertation here.
However, the more interesting thing here is that Apple is evidently asking for a commission on physical merchandise, in this case gasoline, which from what I recall is an explicit exemption to the rule with regards to in app purchases.
From a href="https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/">">here:
In other words, by Apple's own policy, one is explicitly *NOT* supposed to use in-app purchases for such things.
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Incorrect. "gas fees" are what the Ethereum network calls "transaction fees". Everytime you do anything on the ETH blockchain, the cost is called "gas fee". It's not actual physical gas.
All Apple is doing here is demanding the cut if you want to change your NFT ownership. So
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Pepperidge Farm Remembers (Score:2)
I 'member when the web came about, and we were all like "sweet, look we can have these decentralized apps running on the Interwebz!" But the interface sucked, and then we got smartphones and were all like "Nice! Now we get these cool looking apps let's use those!". Then Web 2.0 came and we wuz all "Yo, now the web actually looks pretty cool now, let's use that". Then we go'ed "nah, nvm fam fuck that we'll use apps on our phones".
I dabbled with crypto a bit, I'll admit, but it's mostly a concept that draws i
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When the iPhone first came out, Apples stance was "use progressive web apps - look, heres how you can use manifests to 'install' them so they have their own icon, work offline and everything."
But no, people weren't happy with that, they wanted native apps, and they shouted long and hard until Apple gave them native apps, along with mechanisms for payment, SDKs and all the other supporting stuff. And the world rejoiced at that point.
Progressive web apps still exist, still work just fine, and are not limited
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When the iPhone first came out, Apples stance was "use progressive web apps - look, heres how you can use manifests to 'install' them so they have their own icon, work offline and everything."
Yes, and it was both a really stupid idea, and obviously anticompetitive because Apple's own apps on iDevices were native.
But no, people weren't happy with that, they wanted native apps, and they shouted long and hard until Apple gave them native apps, along with mechanisms for payment, SDKs and all the other supporting stuff. And the world rejoiced at that point.
Only the noobs making fart apps want Apple to handle payments. Everyone else wants to use the same payment processor they use for everything else.
Probably asked before (Score:2)
I know this has been asked before, but can anybody explain why they need an app in the first place? Does the web browser on Apple devices really not run JavaScript, or run it so poorly that it can't be used? Do they block JavaScript from performing web sockets and other things that are used to build the equivalent of "apps" on my PC?
I don't use crApple products, so I honestly don't know. I have a hard time believing the web browser is that crippled, so it seems like Coinbase has only itself to blame. I
The only things of value in this entire story are (Score:3)
... the gas fees.
Someone has to pay for Apple's security (Score:2)
https://twitter.com/CryptoKale... [twitter.com]
Waiting on Coinbase to fail..... (Score:3)