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The Almighty Buck

Mint Is Shutting Down, and It's Pushing Users Toward Credit Karma 41

Emma Roth reports via The Verge: Mint, the budgeting app owned by Intuit, is shutting down. Intuit announced on Tuesday that Mint will get absorbed into Intuit's other service, Credit Karma, when it officially goes away on January 1st, 2024 (via Bloomberg). But it's still not clear whether Credit Karma will get the budgeting features that Mint is known for. [...] Mint had 3.6 million monthly active users as of 2021, Bloomberg reports, but the app's development has slowed down considerably in recent years, with the last major updates being new categorization features and the ability to connect the Apple Card to Mint. [...]

Intuit first acquired Mint in 2009, an app that has offered a free way for users to track their budgets, manage expenses, negotiate bills, and keep tabs on subscriptions. Now, Intuit is inviting users to Credit Karma, a service that the company acquired in 2020. While Credit Karma offers similar features, like the ability to view transactions, track spending, aggregate financial accounts, and credit monitoring, it still doesn't come with the same budget tracking tool that many people specifically use Mint for, and it's not clear whether Credit Karma will ever adopt it. On a support page on Credit Karma's website, Intuit says "the new experience in Credit Karma does not offer the ability to set monthly and category budgets," adding that the app instead "offers a simplified way for you to build awareness of your spending, and track your savings."
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Mint Is Shutting Down, and It's Pushing Users Toward Credit Karma

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  • by DrLudicrous ( 607375 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:08PM (#63975676) Homepage
    YNAB FTW
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:11PM (#63975680)
    Mint, the budgeting app owned by Intuit,

    That headline almost gave me a heart attack.
  • by ArhcAngel ( 247594 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:14PM (#63975692)
    I saw

    Mint Is Shutting Down

    and I nearly lost it! It's funny because I still use Linux Mint but haven't used my Mint account in over a decade.

  • Intuit has as large of a customer base as they do. Anyone starting a business should understand basic bookkeeping since it greatly improves your odds of success. Which means many can save a lot of cash at the start by using something like guncash.
    • by SendBot ( 29932 )

      I don't know what guncash is, but as an American, I'm intrigued!
      (not to be confused with gun cache)

    • by ArhcAngel ( 247594 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:53PM (#63975766)
      2 things...If you are proposing an alternative
      1. Spell it correctly GnuCash
      2. Provide a URL to the alternative. GnuCash [gnucash.org]
    • Gun cash? Autocorrect strikes again!

    • by Zak3056 ( 69287 )

      Intuit has as large of a customer base as they do. Anyone starting a business should understand basic bookkeeping since it greatly improves your odds of success. Which means many can save a lot of cash at the start by using something like guncash.

      GnuCash is a Quicken replacement. If you are starting a business, you would not be using Quicken (except, perhaps, in the simplest possible case, such as a sole proprietor landscaping company, or an independent landlord that owns a small handful of properties), you would be using something like Quickbooks instead--which GnuCash is not a replacement for.

      Note: I have no love for Quickbooks and do not suggest anyone use it, but you need some kind of real accounting software to run a business, personal finance

    • I've tried gnucash and also Intuit's similar products of some stupid names I don't remember. They all suck. I can do much better with simple Excel (no not LOCalc, because that also sucks). The bookkeeping progs have terrible UIs, and if you don't want to do things exactly their super obscure way, you lose. The only advantage was that you could download stuff directly from banks or brokerages, but that also turned out to be so broken as to be unusable, not to mention probably a security risk.

  • I ditched Intuit many years ago, both Quicken and TurboTax. I've been using Moneydance ever since (no affiliation). It's not quite as polished, but it does the job well for me. It's not free (the best things rarely are), but it still has one-time license purchases available, or a subscription if you're that type of person.
  • I have some 27 years worth of transactions and investments tracked by Quicken.

    Locked in, would be very difficult to move out. They tried hard to push all quicken users to on line account and mint.

    Recently they said they are splitting on line version from desktop app. So I was sort of expecting them to dump one or the other. Looks like they are dumping the on line version.

    Good thing they are ditching the on line version. The performance was horrible, when they tried to do all the work on their servers

    • by echo123 ( 1266692 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @08:11PM (#63975784)

      Intuit is awful across the board. Don't forget TurboTax is also an intuit product. I was stuck with Quicken for about 17 years before I finally got everything into GnuCash about 15 years ago, and it was a great move! GnuCash is a God-Send compared to Quicken, especially for non-US banks that export transactions using the MT940 format, (while not using/paying for Intuit's proprietary formats).

      It also wasn't nearly as difficult for me to switch as one might think. And this time of the year is the perfect time to be decisive, because here is the trick:

      Starting on January 1, ensure all transactions and accounts are balanced using GnuCash, simple as that. It is easy to do on January 1, because there are so few transactions to balance. Do the same for January 2nd, and so on, until you are completely comfortable with the GnuCash book-keeping process, (because the amount of transactions to import and keep balanced are so low in number as of January 1). Before January 1, just make a few GnuCash test drives to study how everything works. Don't bother trying to incorporate and balance transactions older than January 1 at this point.

      Later on, when you are completely comfortable with GnuCash and really ready to import past years' transactions, using backups just in case, it is relatively easy to import all those transactions in bulk, because you are only focused on importing and ensuring balances as of December 31 - January 1 for each account.

      This technique was relatively painless to implement, was totally worth it(!), and cured my Quicken headache.

      • Beginning of the year is the time to shift systems. You have to run both in parallel for a couple weeks to close out the old year, and then you are cleanly in the new year.

        Personally I use three spreadsheets, one for the budget, one for taxes and one for investments. I suppose I could combine them into one, but I prefer them separate. Then I can play what if without making a mess elsewhere.

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    • by R_Ramjet ( 994878 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @08:39PM (#63975800)
      Quicken hasn't been owned by Intuit since 2016.
    • by rskbrkr ( 824653 )
      Happily using Quicken 2011 with 23 years of data. Will be migrating to GnuCash once I can no longer install/run on the latest version of Windows.
    • by necro81 ( 917438 )

      I have some 27 years worth of transactions and investments tracked by Quicken.
      Locked in, would be very difficult to move out.

      Could you elaborate on what you mean by "locked in"?

      I, too, had many years of Quicken history on my Mac. My copy was from the early 00's: PowerPC era. When MacOS moved far enough to discontinue Rosetta, I was able to purchase a cheap "extended support" copy that was a 32-bit Intel recompile. Eventually MacOS upgraded far enough that even that wouldn't work. The up-to-date

  • by davide marney ( 231845 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @08:12PM (#63975788) Journal

    Plain Text Accounting for the nerds in the audience. https://plaintextaccounting.or... [plaintextaccounting.org]

  • Click bait? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ukoda ( 537183 ) on Thursday November 02, 2023 @09:11PM (#63975832) Homepage
    A headline saying Mint is shutting down on a tech site without making it clear it is not Linux Mint probably should be treated as click bait. How hard would have it been to write "Intuit Mint Is Shutting Down", and therefore not risk the health of concerned Linux Mint users?
  • I've been a non-budgeter person. Five years ago I was encouraged to budget, and one of the recommendations was the Intuit Mint page. I signed up, and ignored it for about a year, mainly from fear of linking all my finances to intuit. I gave in. Everything is linked, I figured it out. Budgeting turns out is a good thing. I bought a house this year as I understand my finances at a close level.

    I must change my routine now, that happens, but I'm not super excited about it.
  • ...and nothing of value was lost.

  • On one hand, I'd like nothing but the longest death with the deepest cuts for Intuit, so if Mint was costing them money, I would have loved for them to keep it going and bleed. On the other hand, maybe them cutting services is a sign that users hate them.
  • I would be bummed out if was the beginner-friendly linux distro that shut down. No matter one's opinion on its non-FOSS permissiveness, it does provide a fairly elegant desktop experience that's user-friendly enough for everyman.

    But I would have been relieved if it was the MVNO cell service. Their aggressive bombardment of online media with ads featuring Ryan Reynolds has led to me having a visceral reaction to his voice. I'm just so tired of it.

    But the Mint that actually did shut down? I have no opinio

  • I used this service when we were working on getting out of debt. Seeing our entire financial picture in a single pane of glass was nice.

    It became inconvenient over time because they struggled to keep up with evolving security requirements from Banks. That single-pane-of-glass is less of a convenience when updating it requires you to remove, readd, or reauth three or four institutions to see fresh data. I didn't really use the spending tracker features; Classifying transactions is not ADHD friendly. :|

  • I used to like Mint and used it a lot, but over time it had more and more trouble staying linked to my various bank accounts. As banks increased their security, whatever means Mint used to log in and scrape data became undependable. It got to the point where I was spending more time trying to fix broken bank connections than actually using Mint's features, and my main bank, mortgage and credit card would go months and even years broken, making Mint effectively useless at providing relevant, up-to-date data.

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