New Darth Vader Costume Revealed in upcoming DVDs 396
Jethro73 writes "Whether you love or hate the Special Edition only release, you should be excited to see the new Darth Vader costume on the upcoming Trilogy DVD set. Here are some more details on the upcoming DVD set."
Decisions, decisions... (Score:5, Funny)
Ah crap, now I'm stumped.
Do I make a clone of Jay Maynard's cool TRON costume [ibiblio.org] or of Darth's outfit [yahoo.com]? Our annual Sci Fi convention is next month and I don't want to wear my Vulcan Ears for the 24th time.
Re:Decisions, decisions... (Score:3, Funny)
Seriously. Discuss.
Re:Decisions, decisions... (Score:2, Informative)
This was played out to it's sad sad end yesterday.
Re:Decisions, decisions... (Score:2)
Re:Decisions, decisions... (Score:5, Funny)
I think the real TRON would definitely wear a cup and a girdle as part of this costume.
I really didn't need to see Milton's nads.
Re:Decisions, decisions... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Decisions, decisions... (Score:5, Funny)
Um, this is a story? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Um, this is a story? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Um, this is a story? (Score:5, Funny)
halloween (Score:4, Funny)
image (Score:4, Funny)
So any bets on when an image file is leaked?
Re:image (Score:3, Funny)
Re:image (Score:5, Funny)
-Carolyn
wait wait wait (Score:2, Insightful)
*pre-emptive frowny face*
Re:wait wait wait (Score:4, Interesting)
a new suit would really interrupt the mood.
Re:wait wait wait (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:wait wait wait (Score:2)
/grouchynerd
Re:wait wait wait (Score:3, Interesting)
don't tell me (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:don't tell me (Score:3, Insightful)
Theoretically the empire is going downhill over time, so it makes sense that the equipment circa episode 4 is pretty beat up. Nonetheless, vader is the 2nd in charge of the whole deal, so one would assume that he's going to be taken care of. In the real world, many dictators have gold plated houses while their citizens starve. could be the same here.
It could be cool (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:It could be cool (Score:3, Insightful)
'Oh, what you see in the movies from this guy kinda sucks...but you should SEE what they reject!'
Ob. Triumph the Insult Comic Dog quote. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Ob. Triumph the Insult Comic Dog quote. (Score:4, Funny)
"Seriously, have you ever talked to a woman without having to give your credit card number."
Re:Ob. Triumph the Insult Comic Dog quote. (Score:2)
Just like another recent movie... (Score:5, Funny)
So there you go. Black pajamas with a motorcycle helmet.
Re:Just like another recent movie... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Just like another recent movie... (Score:2)
If he were large for his age, he could have gone as a mutant ninja sumo wrestler.
Just one question? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Just one question? (Score:5, Funny)
> Does Han Solo shoot first?
Shoot what? You mean he doesn't point a walkie talkie at Greedo and run away?
I've been duped!
Re:Just one question? (Score:2)
Re:Just one question? (Score:2, Interesting)
What exactly is all this talk about Han shooting first? I read about it here all the time but I've never been able to figure out what people are talking about.
Re:Just one question? (Score:5, Informative)
In the original version of the film, Han Solo shoots Greedo, but in the 1997 "Special Edition" re-release Lucas changed it so that Greedo shot first and Solo is simply defending himself.
Re:Just one question? (Score:5, Funny)
Civil Procedure, Star Wars Style (Score:5, Funny)
GREEDO: I need somebody to give this subpoena to Solo's Wookee co-pilot.
BARTENDER: Hey! We don't serve their kind here!
Re:Just one question? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Just one question? (Score:2)
I guess the basic idea is Lucas didn't want Han looking like a bad guy and a lot of fans got their undees in a bundle about it.
could be worse (Score:2)
Vader could've just 'guessed' that Han would want to shoot him, and pulled Han's blaster right out of the holster BEFORE Han even grabbed it to shoot!
You know this is going to be in the next iteration of the ever shifting re-editions of the Star Wars movies...
Re:Just one question? (Score:2)
Yes, the official release are the SE with the Greedo Incident (TM).
If you want the original, there are widescreen LaserDisc rips to DVD available as torrents right now. They have menus, audio commentary, and are even anamorphic 2.35:1. Check the usual torrent sites. The DVDs are amazing.
Re:Just one question? (Score:5, Informative)
The specific instance he's referring to is the scene in the Mos Eisley Cantina where Han is confronted by Greedo, the bounty hunter. During their conversation, Han draws his blaster under the table points it at Greedo. When he feels like he's got no other choice he fires, killing Greedo in cold blood.
In the special edition, Greedo fires the first shot, forcing Han to "retaliate" by killing Greedo in self-defense.
Down with SE.
Re:Just one question? (Score:4, Interesting)
For me, part of the original Star Wars saga involved the changes that Han Solo went through thorough the course of the movies.
He WAS a heartless mercenary with loyalty to his ship and His Wookie and that was about it.
The moment when he shows up at the end of "An New Hope" and blasts the Tie Fighters is supposed to show how he has changed, how his motivations and alliances have become altered by his experiences with the rebels.
It makes perfect sense for the Han Solo we meet at the beginning of "A New Hope" to shoot first. He isn't a hero yet, and it's foolish for Lucas to claim that "A hero doesn't do that sort of thing."
Lucas is trying to whitewash the very stories he created, and in so doing he ignores the very precepts of the Journey of the Here that he pompously claims were the foundation of the characters.
Solo begins as a mercenary, and that's all that he is.
By the end he's one of the heros, but he doesn't start as one.
Do some research Lucas. Not even the Buddha started off that way, and a lot of heroes have tragic histories where they weren't exactly heros. Hell, the most interesting heros are the ones that were at one point villains.
I liked Han because he changes. He grows as a sentient being.
Re:Just one question? (Score:5, Insightful)
So you'll only think about buying the DVDs if he DOES shoot first? I'm not a moderator, but your comment makes no sense!
Most Star Wars fans know what I'm about to say -- it's not a particularly esoteric piece of knowledge: in the original trilogy, Han Solo shot first. Lucas altered this in the Special Edition so that Greedo shot first, because he felt that the original version made Han too "cold-blooded." [google.com] Obligatory Google searches here [google.com] and here [google.com].
Many Star Wars fans, including the poster to whom you responded, dislike Lucas' altering of Solo's actions, because they feel it came from a place of political correctness, wanting to make Solo less of an anti-hero and more of a hero.
Re:Just one question? (Score:5, Insightful)
Ok so let us magnify the scale here just a bit and see if the point becomes evident:
If Hamlet had killed Rosencrantz and Guildenstern after they had made an attack on him, rather than killing them because he knew that someone (Claudius) had told them to kill him then Hamlet would have been the righteous hero who prevailed in an upfront manner and there would have been no questions about it.
Instead he killed them through trickery and without -direct- evidence of their plans. Doing so made him the dark hero who was able to strike first when in jeopardy and left questions going long afterwards about whether he was "right" or whether he was presumptuous.
If you've seen the play (or Star Wars) more than once, then your questions are answered at the end. But for the first time viewer it lets you question for awhile the real motives behind the protagonist (and let's face it, Solo was at LEAST as much of a protagonist as Skywalker if you use the definition of change as the bases for a protagonist). It gives a much darker sheen to the movie.
It is specifically that darkness in the first three movies that have been obliterated so far in ep1 and ep2. There is no questioning of loyalties
Do I equate Lucas and Shakespeare? No. But Star Wars has probably had a much more profound affect on most people today than Hamlet and if you disregard the endings of the 2 characters (actually you shouldn't, since all of Lucas' characters seem to get just deserts at the end except for Anakin's mother and a few extras
Re:Just one question? (Score:3, Interesting)
Here's another thought...Han is *still* a smuggler. He *still* charges an outlandish fee to Luke and Han for ferrying them to Alderaan ("we could almost buy our own ship for that!"). Taken out of context, the Greedo scene makes Han a little "nicer." Unfortunately that's not who Han is at the beginning of the film.
Two more th
Neato! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Neato! (Score:2)
Lord of the rings will do the same thing. First there will be a 3 episode extended edition box set with some extra stuff and some new bookends or something. Then there will be a super extended edition with scenes like Eowyn defending the Rohan women and children in the caves of Aglarond. (the eowyn scene is shown briefly in the fellowship theatre version DVD's preview of the Two Towers).
Hollywood releases crap because people will still watch it. Just like you or I will do the minimum amount of work to
Re:Neato! (Score:2)
No, I think the movie industry will keep getting us obsessive, trivia hoarding, hyper-anal movie nerds to buy the same movie 10 times over.
Re:Neato! (Score:2)
You mean like changing the scene in the hospital room on Hoth so that now Han kisses Luke? Or maybe Chewie, I'm not sure which is worse.
Re:Neato! (Score:2)
Wow, that's so great (Score:2)
Until then, I'll get by with my laserdisc versions of the originals.
-Todd
Also on the new Star Wars Oh-So-Special Edition... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Also on the new Star Wars Oh-So-Special Edition (Score:2, Funny)
Yeah, yeah, yeah... mod me down
Re:Also on the new Star Wars Oh-So-Special Edition (Score:5, Funny)
Don't be ridiculous.
But the empire does have evidence (well hints, ok just hunches) that Alderaan maybe have (thought about vaguely) Weapons of Mass Destruction.
Oh and the Death Star? Thats totally not a WMD...
The Movie Is Still Gonna Suck (Score:3, Insightful)
Whatever. We all know we are still going to bittorrent it and yet still go to see the big fight on the big screen.
Spoiler Alert! (Score:5, Funny)
Don't bother reading the articles.
Just in case Yahoo news gets slashdotted, I've typed a plaintext mirror:
Newsflash! In movie 3 of the Starwars Hexology, Darth Vader will be seen wearing something different! Fashion Moguls can get an avanced look at cutting edge fashion for "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..." by buying the DVD set.
George Lucas says:
Talk about stringing it out for money. Lucas is the master.
Another highlight:
SPOILER ALERT:
Of course, since Vader and Obi-Wan duke it out again in IV, the 'climactic showdown' will probably not end in the death of either character in III, unless Lucas has begun hiring script-writers from Star Trek TNG.
Re:Spoiler Alert! (Score:2)
Climactic showdown as in when Anakin gets toasted by Obi-Wan and horribly disfigured. Not as in either of their deaths. I think I have been trolled.
Fashion in Sci Fi (Score:2)
They're going to make... (Score:5, Funny)
Lucasfilms purchases OSDN (Score:5, Insightful)
How else can you explain Slashdot participating in hyping a new Darth Vader costume by linking to a news story that doesn't have a picture of it? Come on guys! Don't waste my time posting the story till they're showing us a photo!
I want to see the costume (Score:3, Insightful)
I got good karma, so I'm gonna make this an annoying rant. What's the point of submitting a story for every damn little detail about ep III? What's next? A series of insightful articles on Sen. Padme hairdos? PUH-LEEZE.
Ok mods. Do your worst.
Re:I want to see the costume (Score:2, Funny)
Close! Replace "Sen. Padme" with "Natalie Portman", and "hairdos" with "hot grits" and I think you'll have us a story!
wait... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:wait... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:wait... (Score:2)
Compare and contrast (Score:2)
Compare and contrast:
George Lucas [yimg.com]
Swiss Toni [bbc.co.uk]
Re:Compare and contrast (Score:3, Funny)
costumes (Score:3, Insightful)
Reminds me of the big controversy over nipples [darkknightnet.net] on the bat suit.
I should RTFA (Score:2)
Man, those marketeers know their audience!
Or... (Score:2)
Birth of the lightsabre (Score:3, Funny)
Pink Frilly Dresses (Score:2)
Playable XBox demo (Score:2)
Funny (Score:5, Interesting)
One thing about the original is that people actually looked as if they were part of the movie. The only scene in Episode II where Obi-Wan is really emotional is when they are pursuing Dooku at the end of the movie.
It just appeared to be a series of storyboards and ideas instead of a cohesive story. The Clone War was cool, but somehow I wonder if it's really worth it to spend umpty millions to put 87 different kinds of laser blasting vehicles on the screen and vast horizons of rendered landscapes when the cantina scene in the original was more interesting.
There are no "Who's gonna fly it?" lines in the new trilogy.
Re:Funny (Score:2)
I suppose even the best actor would look bored working in a blue room for 8 hours a day, acting to "that thing over there the FX guys will add later" and reciting lines from Lucas' less-than-stellar script.
Stuff like sets and props and made-up critters to act against really do help
Re:Funny (Score:3, Insightful)
What's really amazing is that the Clone Wars animated shorts are better than the last two movies. There's no particular reason - they just feel more like the Star Wars we're used to. And there's definitely "Who's gonna fly it?" lines. Hell, ANAKIN gets a couple. (Like the sequence where he's zipping back and forth dogfighting with that Sith chick over Obi-Wan's head while Obi-wan lectures at him)
Promise me this (Score:5, Funny)
There's no 'dangly parts' in spandex on that page... right?
Re:Promise me this (Score:2)
Making my own DVD (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Making my own DVD (Score:2)
BitTorrent is your friend. Rips from the LaserDiscs are available now. Enjoy.
Love or Hate? (Score:2)
bifurication.
try don't give a damn.
Special edition nude scene (Score:2)
Oh man... (Score:2)
Darth: Whoa! Pop quiz! Am I "the One" or am not I"? Dude?
Here's the news (Score:5, Funny)
There will be a stirring piano solo accompanying a soundless lightsaber battle between Anakin and Obi-Wan, followed by a spectacular soaring performance of the theme from Star Wars with the entire cast of the film singing the new never-before-heard lyrics as a galactic chorale.
Darth Vader will then sing a solo baritone as the credits roll.
aw, man (Score:2)
Let's just blow Empire Strikes Back, mmmkay? (Score:5, Insightful)
"Luke... *I* am your father"
"Yeah Dad, I saw that back in Episode 3"
I can only hope that Lucas has Anakin fall into the lava pit in one scene and then this new figure, Darth Vader mysteriously appears at the end of Episode 3. But no, Lucas has already said "We're going to get to see Anakin put the helmet on."
Which means the CORRECT viewing order for future generations of Star Wars fans MUST be... 4, 5, 6, and then 1,2 and 3. NOT in chronological order.
Or in the words of Comic-book guy... "Worst continuity, Ever!"
Re:Let's just blow Empire Strikes Back, mmmkay? (Score:5, Funny)
Actually, the correct viewing order for future generations of Star Wars fans must be: 4, 5, 6.
No. (Score:4, Insightful)
This coming to terms with how twisted Vader is and how close they are together is a major turning point for Skywalker's character.
But I'm sure you just want to nitpick and whine more.
Could be cool. Maybe (Score:3, Informative)
Excited to see? (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, I really fucking would. But your link just goes to some pictureless article. Nice.
More important stuff (Score:5, Funny)
Costume Designers Got It Right This Time (Score:4, Funny)
Ooohhh, you have to wait to see the new Darth Vader suit? Then what is that Yahoo picture [yahoo.com] in the story? Oh. It's George Lucas.
No deleted scenes? (Score:5, Interesting)
When I buy the trilogy on DVD, I want the section from ANH with Biggs on Tatooine. I want the bits of the expanded snow monster things in the base on Hoth, and the shots of Lando on the outside of the Millennium Falcon rescuing Luke in ESB. I want the escape to the Falcon from Jabba's palace and the scenes on the *other* command ship at the battle of Endor in ROTJ.
Don't tell me you don't have them, Lucas, because I've seen them for sale on bootleg VHS tapes. If you can restore the Jabba scene in ANH, you can do those too.
Sneak Preview... (Score:4, Funny)
Fan Re-Do? (Score:4, Interesting)
1) More space battles. To me, this, not the creatures, is what makes Star Wars, well Star Wars. In Episode 1, there is more or less one and it was terrible. Yes, I know space battles today are 'easy' and the CG guys want to show off, but I want to be entertained, not impressed.
2) Spacecraft Continuity. Yeah, I know you're trying to show off how computers can make ships with complex geometry. But I like the good old Ralph McQuarrie ships. To me the grimy 'raw' look of the Rebels and the austere design of the Imperials was magic.
3) Less creatures. I mean, having aliens as background is cool, and introducing one or two key ones (e.g. Yoda & Jabba) worked, but to introduce a dozen or so and try to give them personalities just is too much to digest in one movie. Come to think of it, Jabba and Yoda worked better than any CGI creature I've seen to date...
4) Ralph McQuarrie. As much as anything, his artistic genius made Star Wars, well, Star Wars.
5) Story. You know, actually I don't have that big of a problem with the Episode I & II stories if you can strip away the execution. Seemed to me that there was a good foundation that was ruined by execution and stupid details.
Of course, whether a rag-tag Rebel-like team of internet hackers can do better remains to be seen...
Re:Trolling.....down the sewers of the strand with (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Trolling.....down the sewers of the strand with (Score:2)
My sincere thanks for the excellent advice.
Re:Trolling.....down the sewers of the strand with (Score:3, Insightful)
*remembers Voyager, Insurrection and Nemesis*
Do you really want me to answer that?
Re:Trolling.....down the sewers of the strand with (Score:2)
Re:News for nerds (Score:3, Informative)